Miracle Unique in Health


Human_Being

 

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Please enlighten me.

If I slot a Mircacle: Recovery in Transfusion, I get an Endurance recovery bonus of 15% for 120 seconds, following actually activating the power. Each time? No, that can't be the case, can it?

So when does the 120 seconds start?

What if I slot Miracle: Recovery in Health, as I have seen in some builds? When do the 120 seconds start then, as Health is always on?

/Confused


 

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If it goes in health its always on, and if its in a toggle its always on when the toggle is active. if you slot it in a click it will activate every time you activate the power.


 

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Auto powers like Health actually have a cycle where they reapply themselves before the power wears off. The cycle varies but according to Mids' at least, Health's buff duration is 10.25 seconds, which suggests the power probably reactivates every 10 seconds.

So, every 10 seconds, the Miracle buff will reapply itself with Health. Every usage of Transfusion will also reapply the Miracle buff (although it won't stack it).


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Ok, thanks.

If I slot it in Health, should I 4-slot health to allow room for it? To the get the max HP bonus from 3 IO 50 Health and the Miracle: Recovery thing?


 

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If you really want to or desire every bit of regeneration you can get. To be honest though, the difference between two and three level 50 gIO enhancements is not very much, so if you need the slot elsewhere but still want a strong effect, just two Heal gIOs should be sufficient.


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If you really want to or desire every bit of regeneration you can get. To be honest though, the difference between two and three level 50 gIO enhancements is not very much, so if you need the slot elsewhere but still want a strong effect, just two Heal gIOs should be sufficient.

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If you use max level IOs you can slot Miracle Heal, and the unique, Numina Heal and the unique, and get pretty close to the ED softcapped bonus for regen AND the benefit of the uniques AND the first set bonus in each set all in 4 slots.


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Milady's, that sounds pretty clever. I now have the Numina unique slotted in transfusion for a total of five Numinas there. I have been considering going to 6 Numinas there for the Ranged Defense bonus... but I could then go to four instead and move the Unique to Health?


 

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Milady's, that sounds pretty clever. I now have the Numina unique slotted in transfusion for a total of five Numinas there. I have been considering going to 6 Numinas there for the Ranged Defense bonus... but I could then go to four instead and move the Unique to Health?

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Correct. And the Regen from the Numina's unique is slightly more than you would get from the Enhancement bonus of a lv50 Heal generic IO.


 

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If you really want to or desire every bit of regeneration you can get. To be honest though, the difference between two and three level 50 gIO enhancements is not very much, so if you need the slot elsewhere but still want a strong effect, just two Heal gIOs should be sufficient.

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If you use max level IOs you can slot Miracle Heal, and the unique, Numina Heal and the unique, and get pretty close to the ED softcapped bonus for regen AND the benefit of the uniques AND the first set bonus in each set all in 4 slots.

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If you bother with that (I figured, slot what you have, figure out what to do if you get the extras), you may as well go for the gusto and stick a Regenerative Tissue in there, either replacing the Miracle:Heal or adding another slot. Either would be adding to the total.


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So what would be the final slotting, LostHalo?


 

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If I slot it in Health, should I 4-slot health to allow room for it? To the get the max HP bonus from 3 IO 50 Health and the Miracle: Recovery thing?

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What AT are you? For most AT's, in my opinion, it's a waste to slot 3 heals in Health. Certainly, for any AT with even the poorest self-heal, it's really a waste.


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Milady's, that sounds pretty clever. I now have the Numina unique slotted in transfusion for a total of five Numinas there. I have been considering going to 6 Numinas there for the Ranged Defense bonus... but I could then go to four instead and move the Unique to Health?

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You're aware that Transfusion has to hit the enemy, right? Most people slot some accuracy in it, or an Accurate Healing set. Of course, if you have a ton of global accuracy bonuses, no problem.


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Yeah, accuracy is not a problem. Last time I checked I had a 73% global acc bonus.

My toon is a 50 firekin

I usually slot Touch of the Nictus on lower kins


 

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For a Fire/Kin just slot the 2 uniques in health and save the rest of the slots. Regen on a controller is not the best use of your power slots unless you went with Stone Epic and can perma Earth's Embrace.


-Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. - Albert Einstein.
-I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. - Galileo Galilei
-When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson

 

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I mostly use the firekin for farming, so regen is actually pretty useful as I am normally tanking, at least in the old-style farms in PI. In the AE, I wonder if any firekin (even purped out) can really handle himself without a tank for help, but now I am getting off topic :-)