Single target is still painfully low. Frost, when slotted for range (Dam/range HO's) is nice, but still not as good as a PBAoE, such as Combustion.
Frozen Aura is good now. GIS is still not good when compared to other heavy hitters in other sets.
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Ice Ember
Yes Frozen Aura is really good now.
It's not Footstomp still, cause it does miss both the pairing with Rage, as well as the awesome radius (15' for FS, and 10' only for FA).
I would say that /Ice Melee is over most sets for AoE now. It's under Fire still, as everything is, and maybe a bit under SS too but pretty close actually because of Frost.
If you're looking for AoEs and further mitigation from your secondary (thanks Ice Patch !) it's a really fun set. However the ST dmg is lacking alot... GIS should be buffed a bit for example, as its DPA is pretty lame for the supposed to be big hitter of the set.
Good to know, ty for the responses. I was thinking of going with shield/ice melee. The damage buff from shield should make the lower damage ice attacks decent, while making the Frozen aura, fireball, and frost decent aoe damage, and very survivable.
Good or bad build choice?
I have a 50 shield/ice which I like. I like it more than my 50 fire/ice. AAO really helps with the low damage of the single target attacks. If you solo, herd up a few spawns and saturate AAO and attack the boss. When it is nearly defeated, use BU + Frost + Shield Charge + Frozen Aura + Frost to wipe out the herd. The road to 50 can be painful though and I cant really talk about that. I PL'd mine to 50 to compare to the fire/ice. (Now that I am back I can start that up again.)
YMMV---IMOIce Ember
Ice only trails Fire & SS in AoE damage, at least according to Stars' latest charts, and the difference bet. SS & Ice is small. SS might get Rage (and yes, this is what puts it over Ice), but Ice gets Frost (great cone--wide and deep enough to catch 2 or 3 rows of packed mobs, and fast recharging) and Build Up. Ice's ST damage is absolutely abysmal (worst in the game, but make sure to slot FT for damage, not holds), but Shield/Ice and the playstyle it likely entails (i.e. surrounding yourself w/mobs for AAO), sounds fantastic.
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Ice Melee for me is an under performer, but for some reason I still keep trying to make it work (I really want to like it ...).
I think Ice_Ember has hit on a good possible combo. Shield Defense adds both a Damage Buff and an additional AoE (a very strong one). It also provides additional mitigation with Ice Patch.
IMO its Single Target damage needs to be looked at.
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One more question concerning Frozen Aura: If you slot the sleep set's "10% chance for 5% heal" can it proc multiple times in one application of the power. Since you can hit up to 10 enemies with Frozen aura, its pretty sure to at least give you a small heal, but does anyone know if it can proc off of, lets say two people for a 10% heal in one usage?
I slotted some eradication and scirroco's in it. i love the animation too. Its a fun power.
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One more question concerning Frozen Aura: If you slot the sleep set's "10% chance for 5% heal" can it proc multiple times in one application of the power. Since you can hit up to 10 enemies with Frozen aura, its pretty sure to at least give you a small heal, but does anyone know if it can proc off of, lets say two people for a 10% heal in one usage?
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It will only hit once unfortunately.
When it was first available, the chance would individually roll against everything it hit. That was awesome, but it was very OP.
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One more question concerning Frozen Aura: If you slot the sleep set's "10% chance for 5% heal" can it proc multiple times in one application of the power. Since you can hit up to 10 enemies with Frozen aura, its pretty sure to at least give you a small heal, but does anyone know if it can proc off of, lets say two people for a 10% heal in one usage?
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It will only hit once unfortunately.
When it was first available, the chance would individually roll against everything it hit. That was awesome, but it was very OP.
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Yup. When it was broken, it was actually giving a 100% chance of a 5% heal, against each target hit. As such, I tested it, and was able to turn off all of my armors and still Tank just fine hitting Frozen Aura with that Proc in it whenever it came up.
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One more question concerning Frozen Aura: If you slot the sleep set's "10% chance for 5% heal" can it proc multiple times in one application of the power. Since you can hit up to 10 enemies with Frozen aura, its pretty sure to at least give you a small heal, but does anyone know if it can proc off of, lets say two people for a 10% heal in one usage?
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It will only hit once unfortunately.
When it was first available, the chance would individually roll against everything it hit. That was awesome, but it was very OP.
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Oh okay, thx for the clarification. Would you still recommend slotting it in Frozen Aura?
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One more question concerning Frozen Aura: If you slot the sleep set's "10% chance for 5% heal" can it proc multiple times in one application of the power. Since you can hit up to 10 enemies with Frozen aura, its pretty sure to at least give you a small heal, but does anyone know if it can proc off of, lets say two people for a 10% heal in one usage?
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It will only hit once unfortunately.
When it was first available, the chance would individually roll against everything it hit. That was awesome, but it was very OP.
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Oh okay, thx for the clarification. Would you still recommend slotting it in Frozen Aura?
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I would not. Set bonuses and other procs are more useful I think.
YMMV---IMOIce Ember
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One more question concerning Frozen Aura: If you slot the sleep set's "10% chance for 5% heal" can it proc multiple times in one application of the power. Since you can hit up to 10 enemies with Frozen aura, its pretty sure to at least give you a small heal, but does anyone know if it can proc off of, lets say two people for a 10% heal in one usage?
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It will only hit once unfortunately.
When it was first available, the chance would individually roll against everything it hit. That was awesome, but it was very OP.
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Oh okay, thx for the clarification. Would you still recommend slotting it in Frozen Aura?
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I would not. Set bonuses and other procs are more useful I think.
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Agreed. I'd vote to put the Taunt Psi damage Proc in it before the Heal Proc.
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One more question concerning Frozen Aura: If you slot the sleep set's "10% chance for 5% heal" can it proc multiple times in one application of the power. ... can it proc off of, lets say two people for a 10% heal in one usage?
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FWIW, I have this proc slotted in my Inv/Ice tank. And running a few missions on him this afternoon, I twice saw the heal fire off twice on a single use of Frozen Aura.
Not sure what's up here, but I'm not getting the same once-only results you are. I rather like the heal proc in the power.
Looking at the tanker secondaries, I recalled /ice getting some type of buff.. So I decided to check it out.
It seems like Frozen Aura is a very good aoe now. It seems to be tied with Footstomp for damage and recharge, but of course no Rage. I know the single target damage is lacking, but in the AoE department, is it on par with most other sets? Or am I just overlooking some of the bigger flaws.