Looking for end game advice on Fire/Cold for PvE


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I have a totally seperate question... so if your a fire/cold its safe to assume that you will go Mako Patron (like I did on my electric/cold (I have a fire/cold too)) But I have been wondering is Summon Coralax pet any good to have around? I have never had it before but thinking of respecting into it to team with VS (for the electric/). How is the pet in PvP and PvE? Is it any good?



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Here's an important detail to know about soft-capped defenses: it's not full-proof. There is still at least a one in twenty chance for you to get hit. And twenty chances is not a whole lot when you consider the number of mobs and the number of their attacks on big teams. And then you add in defense debuffs, and the each single hit just makes you more vulnerable to more hits, a "cascading failure" of defense. /SR is the only set that has significant Defense Debuff Resistance (DDR) to avoid cascading failure. Other positional defense sets, like Shields and the VEAT secondaries, also have some DDR but can still be susceptible to cascading failure for a short time.

The other thing to consider is that there are some mobs that have high Accuracy, To-Hit, or both. Rulaaru Watchers, Malta Gunslingers, and stacked-Vengeance Nemesis, and higher-level conning mobs can get a significant chance to hit through the soft-cap, and possibly even debuff that defense, which could lead to further problems. And let' not forget some of the mobs that have attacks with no positional tags!

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Most of the -Def attacks that cascade easily are energy based which is covered by the resists in Arctic Fog. Additionally slows halt -Def cascading in it's tracks, assuming it even gets started off. The lethal -Def attacks that cascade are all melee which is easily avoided using slows again. As I've said time and time again, +Def and -Recharge is an amazing defensive combo.

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Against single targets, -Recharge can help prevent additional attacks from cycling faster.

Against multiple targets, such as when you are on a team (which is precisely the situation where Frostworks, Aid Other, and the Cold Shield are exclusively used), then there will be that alpha strike, there will be multiple attacks from multiple mobs. In that situation, -Recharge is not going to help in the first cycle of attacks that come in. And that alpha strike is capable of dropping many a toons that are not built to mitigate all that damage.

Again, you have to look at the context of how the powers are used. If you are soloing as a Fire/Cold, then for the most part it's going to be a cake walk with maybe the exceptional of the occasional resistant EB.

In team situations, the dynamic changes altogether, as well as what powers are used, needed, and available.

And if you think all the slows in the world will stop a team mob of Cimeroran Traitors, then you probably have some good aggro management on your team, or else your defense WILL drop as well as your HP.

I know Turbo_Ski is probably not going to agree with me or many of the people here, but I'm also not going to ignore something and perpetuate false information either. If you are still thinking about who's more correct, then look at the numbers. They don't lie.


 

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I have a totally seperate question... so if your a fire/cold its safe to assume that you will go Mako Patron (like I did on my electric/cold (I have a fire/cold too)) But I have been wondering is Summon Coralax pet any good to have around? I have never had it before but thinking of respecting into it to team with VS (for the electric/). How is the pet in PvP and PvE? Is it any good?

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I like the coralax pet. I haven't really pvp'd much since i13 so I can't speak to how good it is there.

All of his attacks cycle pretty quickly.

I like it more than the /mace spider (who honestly does nothing most of the time), but less than the /soul fortunata (she's pretty mean). I haven't tried the /mu pet for corrs.


 

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I have a totally seperate question... so if your a fire/cold its safe to assume that you will go Mako Patron (like I did on my electric/cold (I have a fire/cold too)) But I have been wondering is Summon Coralax pet any good to have around? I have never had it before but thinking of respecting into it to team with VS (for the electric/). How is the pet in PvP and PvE? Is it any good?

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I like the coralax pet. I haven't really pvp'd much since i13 so I can't speak to how good it is there.

All of his attacks cycle pretty quickly.

I like it more than the /mace spider (who honestly does nothing most of the time), but less than the /soul fortunata (she's pretty mean). I haven't tried the /mu pet for corrs.

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Okay thanks Was trying to see if it was even worth getting the only pet I tend to get is the MU pet, but I have 1 respec left and was thinking that having the Coralax could help with my VS pet. But not really sure as I have not expereinced the pet yet. I am curious about how it does in pvp though.

maybe I should make a seperate post so I don't thread jack this..



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meh, no worries. I don't think there is much left to discuss with regard to the direction this thread has gone.

You could try in the pvp forums regarding the pet, lots of corrs are running lev ppp now, maybe some have taken the pet for a spin against real targets.

I only gave my /colds a brief foray into the "new" pvp. When I discovered my slows were of little use anymore (-rech still works though) I said no thx. I think it is ridiculous to disable multiple effects in pvp just because they don't have the ability to figure out how to balance them.


 

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this is a one in a million chance I guess but can anyone please PM me any good fire/cold builds? I am interested in possibly making one for AVs