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My friend is having really disliking his Arachnos Soldier because he is getting defeated all the time. He feels that the Cloaking Device has the same value as a Stalkers Hide, I told him that I don't think that it does.
If anybody can confirm the numbers for me on this I would be very appreciative.
Rich the Numbers Guy
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Bane Spider Cloak (50 feet) is less than the Stalker's hide (150 feet):
Paragon Wiki : Stealth Powers
Edit: mis-read OP
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My friend is having really disliking his Arachnos Soldier because he is getting defeated all the time. He feels that the Cloaking Device has the same value as a Stalkers Hide, I told him that I don't think that it does.
If anybody can confirm the numbers for me on this I would be very appreciative.
Rich the Numbers Guy
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just type in [hide] on the soldier - it will show you the stats
Right click on cloaking device and look at detailed info - same.
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But should it really matter?I fail to see how his stealth range is getting him killed..
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My friend is having really disliking his Arachnos Soldier because he is getting defeated all the time. He feels that the Cloaking Device has the same value as a Stalkers Hide, I told him that I don't think that it does.
If anybody can confirm the numbers for me on this I would be very appreciative.
Rich the Numbers Guy
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Bane Spider Cloak (50 feet) is less than the Stalker's hide (150 feet):
Paragon Wiki : Stealth Powers
Edit: mis-read OP
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man, i feel like a total noob. what exactly does the 50' from the cloaking device and hide's 150' mean?
i dont think it means u can see a stalker within 150', so what does it mean. 
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When you turn on Cloaking Device, enemies have to be 50' closer than usual to see you. With Hide, it's 150' closer than usual. So an enemy that can see you from 100' away normally can see a Cloaking Device-d person from 50' away, and can't see a Hidden person at all, whereas an enemy that sees to 300' would see a Cloaked person at 250' and Hidden at 150'.
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man, i feel like a total noob. what exactly does the 50' from the cloaking device and hide's 150' mean?
i dont think it means u can see a stalker within 150', so what does it mean.
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http://paragonwiki.com/wiki/Stealth_and_Perception
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its math the snipers can see yuou and so can drones and all those annying baddies tell your freind to take super speed and it helps increase the stelth factor to the point were only really high preseption can see him
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To the OP:- Are we talking about PvE or PvP here?
I think there is a difference in PvP...but in PvE a Bane Spider's cloak should be just as good as a Stalker's hide.
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If we're talking PvE... I fail to see how he got another AT to 50 if he can't keep a Bane alive. ><
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Don't forget that Hide gives a stalker:
37.5% Defense to AoE
3.75% To everything else (except Psionic)
While hidden, and
1.88% to everything (except Psionic)
While revealed.
Cloaking Device gives
7.5% Defense (Melee, Ranged, AoE) while hidden
3.75% Defense (Melee, Ranged, AoE) while revealed.
AT Modifiers are included in both sets of numbers.
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what u need to shoot for is the defense soft cap on melee, range and, aoe. grabbin tact training manuvers, combat jump, super jump and leadership: defense. with these powers and properly slotted, ur friend can get their defense to 45% and have a hella of alot more survivalablity.
RED CAP DAGGERS: if you want them red side on infinity, send a pm i have the mission to get them for dual blades.
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what u need to shoot for is the defense soft cap on melee, range and, aoe. grabbin tact training manuvers, combat jump, super jump and leadership: defense. with these powers and properly slotted, ur friend can get their defense to 45% and have a hella of alot more survivalablity.
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Uh. People skip Tactical Training: Maneuvers?
Deamus the Fallen - 50 DM/EA Brute - Lib
Dragos Bahtiam - 50 Fire/Ice Blaster - Lib
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Originally Posted by Shubbie
Im very good at taking a problem and making it worse.
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its math the snipers can see yuou and so can drones and all those annying baddies tell your freind to take super speed and it helps increase the stelth factor to the point were only really high preseption can see him
[/ QUOTE ]Actually, Superspeed doesn't help versus drones and a very few other "perceptive" mobs - Rikti Drones ignore the effect of Stealth on their perception ranges.
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what u need to shoot for is the defense soft cap on melee, range and, aoe. grabbin tact training manuvers, combat jump, super jump and leadership: defense. with these powers and properly slotted, ur friend can get their defense to 45% and have a hella of alot more survivalablity.
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Uh. People skip Tactical Training: Maneuvers?
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Sadly, yeah. Had people try to tell me it's useless before.
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My friend is having really disliking his Arachnos Soldier because he is getting defeated all the time. He feels that the Cloaking Device has the same value as a Stalkers Hide, I told him that I don't think that it does.
If anybody can confirm the numbers for me on this I would be very appreciative.
Rich the Numbers Guy
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