The merits are different because of the time and effort investment, not just risk.
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Originally Posted by Dispari
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the devs borked their risk assessment formula for merits.
[/ QUOTE ]Merits aren't basked on risk, they're based on time.
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the devs borked their risk assessment formula for merits.
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And the foregone conclusion here, though pretty obvious is:
Risk =/= Time
I think that what you're not taking into account here is the fact that merit awards aren't really calculated based on risk. They're based on average completion time.
Compare the STF with the Numina's TF. Not counting the merits for defeating the flier (which we're not supposed to get anyway) they give roughly the same number of merits (38 for Statesman, 36 for numina). They take roughly the same amount of time to complete, due to the large number of hunts in the middle of Numina, but overall, the Numina TF is MUCH easier than the statesman TF.
Overall though, I think your answer 1 is closest to the truth. I think that as long as we're not getting our rewards too easily (see what happened to comm officer farms), they don't really care if it's harder to get them for some things than others.
I would like to see it fixed though. Maybe for the STF and a Hami raid, if you choose a hami-o, you get some merits too, to make up the difference.
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they don't really care if it's harder to get them for some things than others.
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I beg to differ on this one. See: Katie Hannon TF vs. Any other TF before Merits.
A Hami raid requires far more people and organization than a TF/SF. You can't compare HO risk/reward because of that.
HOs were added as an option to the STF/LRSF for those people who can't do Hami raids. Some servers have Hami on permanent "farm" status, making for an easy and regular source of HOs. Other servers rarely do him at all and instead need to do the TF/SF to get HOs. And even on the servers that farm Hami those are usually done on a regular schedule which many people can't attend so again the STF/LRSF would be their only option to earn HOs as a reward (i.e. not counting buying/trading for them).
As an aside, the servers that farm Hami can do him in ~60 - 90 minutes, depending on how long the monster clearing takes. That puts the merit reward for Hami on those servers well above what it should be compared to the STF and LRSF.
Ah, this concept of "risk vs. reward" being held as the holy grail of CoX........
Well, something has blatently spat on our dear ideology: HamiOs.
Currently, three activities in the game reward a random HamiO upon completion. However, each of those three activities also has an option to substitute a merit reward for the HamiO, as follows (according to paragon wiki):
STF = 38 merits (usually 40-42 due to the flier)
LRSF = 25 merits
Hami Raid = 52 merits
Here, we have a rather large inconsistency with the "risk vs. reward" concept.
A) The rewarding of a single random HamiO at the end of each activity would suggest that the risk for all three activities are the same because the reward is the same.
B) The rewarding of different amounts of merit at the end of each activity would suggest that the risk is different for each activity, based on the number of merits awarded.
Personally, I arrived at two possible conclusions, but that's just me.
1. If the risks are different between the three activities, then this would suggest that the devs are fine with the "risk vs. reward" being different between various content in the game.
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2. If the risks are the same between the three activities, then this would suggest that the devs borked their risk assessment formula for merits.
edit: The responses has generated even more inconsistencies.
- If risk is not equal to time and a huge portion of the game is using a "time vs. reward" philosophy rather than "risk vs. reward," then the latter shouldn't be held up as the standard for CoX content (i.e. AE). Otherwise, it would seem to be very arbitrary which content will get which formula applied.
- So then, does this mean HamiOs are awarded based on "risk vs. reward," while merits are awarded based on "time vs. reward" in these three activities? If this is true, then it is a huge inconsistency right there. That means not only do different content have different formulas for rewards, but rather the SAME content has multiple rewards based on different formulas.
- If the HamiO is also rewarded based on "time vs. reward" like the merits, then the same inconsistency as I first stated still exist. Rewarding the same random HamiO in each activity would suggest that the time to complete is the same. Rewarding different amounts of merits would suggest that the time to complete is not the same.