SG Abilities


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Well the last time I played this game I think the SG limit was 75, then apparently COH was talking about 75 accounts (which makes far too much sence to do?) then I hear now im back its 150, sorta a step in the right direction!

How about this, if a SG leader is creater of 2 simular name SG like ine (Atlas Heroes, Atlas Heroes Second Chapter, third and so on) and its my ALTs that control each of these as a SG Leader rank, I should be able to coal these together as one large SG, this way all would pool prestige into one base!

Maybe thats a little much for smaller guilds but at the same time, why sould peeps like me that want bigger and better suffer for those with a lack of ambition?

Well thats my idea, if ya cant do 150 accounts (I wish ya would) then atleast allow the SG leader to united multiple guilds he created on alts.


 

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wont work that way. each super group created, even if by the same person, is different. why can't you put all your alt's in 1 sg and have them earn prestige for the 1 group rather then spreading them out in various different sg's?


 

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Well brother I see what your talking about. Here is the issue

Back in the day when I had my Atlas Heroes, we had people that were logged in daily, not that I made them, but they were all active good friends of mine.

Then they wanna bring alts in which I have no issues with, but now there is 0 room left for another! DOOOooooOOOOOM?

Well I offered a suggestion, drop your main and bring your alt until you level him, well the number one reason for them saying "HELL NO" is the fact that most of them have made 1mill or more in prestige, and refused to have that nice record cleared to play an alt.

I would tend to agree, because in a way it shows dedication that my members looked at in each other, I really did not even have to lead half the time, someone fell behind (On a small prestige quota for base upkeep) and someone else would team with them and help them earn.

But the issue remains, 75 or 150 slots for all active players that tend to play a few hours on a tank, then on a healer and then a blaster, half my day would be booting and recruiting lol

So if they cant (And in data anything.....ANYTHING is possible, just a matter of priority(which I totaly get) bind accounts leadership to one guild or greatly increase total allowed in a SG then they really should go to 150 accounts instead of members.

In World of Warcraft, my guild (SG) had over 500 members, rated number one most active raiding guilds on our server....hell many others at that!

And no, we did not pull that gay (mass inv and see who takes) like so many other pathedic guilds do, I talk with them, get a back ground and feel them out to ensure they will click well with the guild mates.

But again, limit caps hurt.

So I ended up making 7 more SGs, having some from the main SG lead them for me, gave them there own chapter of the guild.

We had alot of people who wanted in since we were hosting Hami raids and doing alot of public events, like helping peeps get badges, even randomly helping peeps to level up a little.

Something has gota give


 

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This won't solve your problems. You'll just have more alts in the SG. Your current members will invite more of their alts and the new members will want to have as many of their alts in the SG as well.

If you want an SG to earn more prestige, you need to streamline your membership by limiting the number of alts your members can have in the SG at one time.


 

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I know, I let them have a main in...thats all! Alts go in the sub-divisions.

Point here is COH should make it account based not individual so this would be one less issue.


 

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there isn't a way to make it account based. and i doubt anyone would want all their alt's to be tied to 1 sg. i don't have all of my alt's in 1 sg i have them in multiple. so this idea would do nothing about the 150 member cap limit.

why not just make an tribute sg for the mains that are 50 already and coal it with the main sg? then you have access to all the teleporters and when you guys play your mains it will earn prestige for the neew group so you can put in decorative items and have a pretty base instead of a functional base. i know plenty of groups that do this so they can keep the inflow of new members comming. after all, it isn't about who has the biggest number next to their name for prestige and it really isn't something for people to get their panties in a bunch over.


 

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Yes, this is how I did this in the old days, it sucked!

When the alt SGs earn a few mill prestige that could have been on the main which made our base bigger faster for more options and abilities!

No i dont mean every alt stuck to SG, i mean you can join with multiple alts (which ever you choose) and thats the toon that shows online when your own, once you logon to another alt in the SG roster it would take out the other alt and auto replace with the one thats now online.

It is possible, if they can make a game in the first place ANYTHING is possible, I really dislike when someone says thats not possible, if your a programmer its possible with enough work!

Yes its possible, just not probable since not enough people see it as an issure vs other current more important problems.

I simply say change the system or unlim the cap to the guild roster, other games do it, so its not impossible.


 

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It is possible, if they can make a game in the first place ANYTHING is possible, I really dislike when someone says thats not possible, if your a programmer its possible with enough work!

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So what. AT respecs are also possible, but you have as much chance of seeing them happen as this idea. The game was designed around the idea that your characters are seperate entities from each other NOT extensions of your master account. Very few things are account based. Vet Rewards, A handful of badges, Global Names. SG Membership is not one of them.


 

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Forbin, as a suggestion allowing account-based group access is valid (and often requested).

It doesn't matter if it is possible now, the issue is whether the developer team can actually do it.

The reason the developers gave as to why it wasn't possible is no longer an issue (Cryptic wasn't really allowed to access NCsoft accounts -- this doesn't apply to Paragon Studios). The work with the AE account badges might have been a first step to the possibility that in the future that it will be reality to have account based group access.




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Forbin, as a suggestion allowing account-based group access is valid (and often requested).

It doesn't matter if it is possible now, the issue is whether the developer team can actually do it.

The reason the developers gave as to why it wasn't possible is no longer an issue (Cryptic wasn't really allowed to access NCsoft accounts -- this doesn't apply to Paragon Studios). The work with the AE account badges might have been a first step to the possibility that in the future that it will be reality to have account based group access.

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I didn't say it wasn't a valid request, I said it is as likely to happen as a full AT respec.

Having the ability to have characters join different SG's is a feature of the game, not a restriction.

Oh and please provide a link to where the devs said that the reason we have the freedom to join multiple SG's is because Cryptic wasn't allowed access to NCSoft accounts.


 

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Considering the devs were trying to find out a way to make it account based, I think it's far more likely than AT respecs. But still not terribly likely, since instead of making it account based, they just increased the member cap (cos they couldn't figure out how to do it without a ground-up rework (kind of like power customization (so don't say it's not going to happen))).


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Considering the devs were trying to find out a way to make it account based, I think it's far more likely than AT respecs. But still not terribly likely, since instead of making it account based, they just increased the member cap (cos they couldn't figure out how to do it without a ground-up rework (kind of like power customization (so don't say it's not going to happen))).

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We can point to several things in this game that people have said would never happen. That's why I chose to describe it as "likely". That still leaves the possibility that it can happen. We waited 5 years for power customization and people have asked for this idea almost as long, so I figure "as likely" is a decent generic description of the odds.


 

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Again, I was not saying if one toon is in your whole account is locked in one account.

Okay, static SG spot!

Lets say forb, your in my SG! When you joined you took SG spot number 36!

36 is now something yours, no other account can touch 36 its bound to your char, and in a way, your account.

Now, for the first time you login on a char not the one originaly invited to the guild, you would get some sort of prompt.

"Your account has a spot open in SG Atlas Heroes, would you like to enter this char to the SG?

Lets also say you have alts in 2 SGs or more, a drop down box would appear so each new char or those not logged into while in a SG would give you the option to choose which of the SGs to put this char in.

Now, when he accepts my guild over the other (as he should his main Characters name is not there, now its this new chars, as he logs on with what toons are saved to my guild would show instead, and he would have a base for his prestige earnings and what not.

This would not be a restricting but an addition!

Now I dont have to tell a very active person when our roster is full "No i cant since we have no room for your alt" then now he goes some where else and earns prestige for that base and not his own, so on ect.

This is a good request, it was beaten to death about 2years ago when I last played, since I find it has not been done yet I decided to open it up again.

Now if you read the way I say it would work out, you nor anyone should have an issue with this idea in any way shape or form. Its not that big an issue.

I knew the account accessing issues before, somewhere Cuppajo had posted in regardes to this, however I was also told it was a priority issue, with to many other issues thats bottom of the list.

But other then the account access issues, thats known and you might be right, I just dont know lol never looked into it when someone else took over.

If they can get in our accounts, they should get this done ASAP!