Recharge for a Fire Scrapper


BrokenPrey

 

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Hey all, just wanted to ask a quick question. How much recharge would be needed for a Fire Scrapper to run a constant attack chain of GFC-Inc-Cremate? If SR i know youll need quickness and hasten, but hasten is guaranteed for anyone that wants to run an attack chain like that. How much global recharge on top of hasten and quickness would I need? Thanks


Rendezvous Fire/SR Scrapper 50 (Main), Sole Savior Kat/WP scrapper 50, Papillon Noir DM/SR Stalker 50
Cascavela NW 50

 

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I wouldn't do that attack chain, while it is the best it is only the best by 4%. To run that attack chain you need 236% recharge in GFS, that taks a lot and like I said only 4% better. I would run Inc-GFC-Cremate-Firesword, it is only 4% lower DPS and it only takes 133% recharge in GFS. If you can put 95% in GFS then in only takes 38% global. If you add quickness into it, it in only take 18% global recharge to run that attack chain.

Also I have a GuideHere for Fire/SR I would love to get more feed back into it so I can make it better


"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time"- Chesty Puller US Marine Corps

 

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Sweet, thanks for the response, I am definatly gonna go for the chain you suggested


Rendezvous Fire/SR Scrapper 50 (Main), Sole Savior Kat/WP scrapper 50, Papillon Noir DM/SR Stalker 50
Cascavela NW 50

 

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Good advice Prey! I am presently working on my Fire/SR brute and I didn't even know you had a guide. While I think I have his build pretty much finalized I'm defimitely looking forward to reading your guide. Looks like you put a lot of time and thought into it.


 

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Another chain to consider is Incinerate -> Scorch -> Cremate -> Scorch (+145% recharge in Scorch). It takes another step down in DPS, but only requires three attacks and has better DPE, both of which can significantly relieve slotting pressure in a high-end build. I suspect that's the one I would build towards, but I don't have a Fire scrapper yet.


"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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What would be a great DPS chain for this build?

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What would be a great DPS chain for this build?

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Let's see, looks like +147% in GFS, +99% in Scorch, and +123% in Fire Sword, Cremate and Incinerate.

Probably Incinerate -&gt; Greater Fire Sword -&gt; Cremate -&gt; Fire Sword. Also, swap the Hecatomb damage for the Hecatomb proc. When slowed, just toss in a Scorch at the end. You won't even notice the trivial dent in your DPS.

You could also consider swapping the Hecatombs into Scorch, dropping Greater Fire Sword completely, and running the Incinerate -&gt; Scorch -&gt; Cremate -&gt; Scorch chain. It's probably lower DPS, but with a shorter chain and two purple procs, it's going to be close. You probably don't need the saved endurance on a Regen, but you might be able to do something nice with a power pick and four free slots. For instance, pick up tactics, move the Gaussian set over there, three recharges in Build Up to get it up more often. Then you still have another two slots to play with.

Oh, wait. You need the recharge in Incinerate, not in Scorch. So you're not getting as much out of the purple proc, plus you end up 3% short of the required recharge. Well, you could swap for a Doctored Wounds set in Instant Healing, suffer with a tiny gap, who knows.

OK, I'll shut up now, because this is what I'm SUPPOSED to be doing for SpiderTeo_OC, and I haven't gotten to it yet.


"That's because Werner can't do maths." - BunnyAnomaly
"Four hours in, and I was no longer making mistakes, no longer detoggling. I was a machine." - Werner
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What would be a great DPS chain for this build?

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With that build you can Run Inc&gt;GFS&gt;Cremate&gt;Fire Sword with hasten down. Now when Hasten is up GFS recharges in 3.78 but to run Inc&gt;GFS&gt;Cremate you need GFS to recharge in 3.564, so it is just short. I guess you could run it but it will have a small gap.

Well I did the numbers with the gap, you do less DPS with Inc&gt;GFS&gt;Cremate&gt;.216 gap.

Ok so here are the numbers

Inc&gt;GFS&gt;Cremate&gt;Fire sword= 187.42 DPS Hasten up and Hasten down
Inc&gt;GFS&gt;Cremate&gt;.216 gap.= 187.24 DPS Hasten up
Inc&gt;Scorch&gt;Cremate&gt;Scorch= 173.67 DPS Hasten up.

Ok I think these number are right but if they are wrong pls tell me.


"All right, they're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time"- Chesty Puller US Marine Corps

 

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Another chain to consider is Incinerate -&gt; Scorch -&gt; Cremate -&gt; Scorch (+145% recharge in Scorch). It takes another step down in DPS, but only requires three attacks and has better DPE, both of which can significantly relieve slotting pressure in a high-end build. I suspect that's the one I would build towards, but I don't have a Fire scrapper yet.

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And a big plus for me at least, I wouldn't have to whip out those silly fire sword things. I mean seriously, If I can control fire to that extent, I'd make something way more bad [censored] than a sword. Like....fire nunchuks hehe.


-Hesh

38 FF/Sonic Def
35 Ill/Storm
35 DM/Regen
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on my fire/sr scrapper i ran gfs&gt;incin&gt;cremate&gt;fs no hasten no purple sets

but when i went to my claws/sr i havent looked back...claws spoils me to much


 

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What would be a great DPS chain for this build?

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With that build you can Run Inc&gt;GFS&gt;Cremate&gt;Fire Sword with hasten down. Now when Hasten is up GFS recharges in 3.78 but to run Inc&gt;GFS&gt;Cremate you need GFS to recharge in 3.564, so it is just short. I guess you could run it but it will have a small gap.

Well I did the numbers with the gap, you do less DPS with Inc&gt;GFS&gt;Cremate&gt;.216 gap.

Ok so here are the numbers

Inc&gt;GFS&gt;Cremate&gt;Fire sword= 187.42 DPS Hasten up and Hasten down
Inc&gt;GFS&gt;Cremate&gt;.216 gap.= 187.24 DPS Hasten up
Inc&gt;Scorch&gt;Cremate&gt;Scorch= 173.67 DPS Hasten up.

Ok I think these number are right but if they are wrong pls tell me.

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So then this would be the optimal choice then? I can use that chain with hasten up or down?


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