PB for tanking?


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I'd like to use my PB as a main tanker is this a viable option? or should I just make a tank? If it is viable anyone have a good build? thanks in advance


 

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Just make a Tank.


 

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Peacebringers can tank well, but if you're making a PB solely to be a 'main tanker' then you're probably better off with a Tanker. The appeal of the PB over the Tanker is that it can tank and fill other roles to some degree. It's a generalist.

If you're only looking to fill one role, you don't want a generalist. You want the specialist for that role. In this case, a Tanker. If you want a damage-dealing, control-using powerhouse that can also tank in a pinch, then the PB's for you. If all you care about is being main tank, then be a Tanker.


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Peacebringers can tank well, but if you're making a PB solely to be a 'main tanker' then you're probably better off with a Tanker. The appeal of the PB over the Tanker is that it can tank and fill other roles to some degree. It's a generalist.

If you're only looking to fill one role, you don't want a generalist. You want the specialist for that role. In this case, a Tanker. If you want a damage-dealing, control-using powerhouse that can also tank in a pinch, then the PB's for you. If all you care about is being main tank, then be a Tanker.

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What he said.


 

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personally i think warshade's make better tanks than PB's. reason being is you get Eclipse, 2xMires, stygian circle, dark extraction.

yea warshade's have a lot going for them like even taking alpha's in nova form and barely taking a scratch, also warshade's seem to have better DPS then PB's as there's no downtime once u have stygian circle. you get bonus of a stealth and recall friend, and since ur taking eclipse means ur taking hasten so why not ss too?

the only thing pb's have going for them is their version of dull pain, but would u rather have an extra 300 hp or be capped to every type of damage in the game 85% resistances, tanks get their caps at 90% but its impossbiel for a tank to hit capped resistance on every damage type without lots of defenders on the team.


 

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personally i think warshade's make better tanks than PB's. reason being is you get Eclipse, 2xMires, stygian circle, dark extraction.

yea warshade's have a lot going for them like even taking alpha's in nova form and barely taking a scratch, also warshade's seem to have better DPS then PB's as there's no downtime once u have stygian circle. you get bonus of a stealth and recall friend, and since ur taking eclipse means ur taking hasten so why not ss too?

the only thing pb's have going for them is their version of dull pain, but would u rather have an extra 300 hp or be capped to every type of damage in the game 85% resistances, tanks get their caps at 90% but its impossbiel for a tank to hit capped resistance on every damage type without lots of defenders on the team.

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White Dwarf though is better at tanking than Black Dwarf. Not sure what form OP was talking about.


 

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Thanks everyone for the replies

Basically I want to be versatile but want to be able to main tank if I want too so just really want to know if I can be a main tank if the team calls for it, or is that better left to real tanker class.

For some reason I've had a really really hard time getting into the Tanker class in the game but yet really want to be able to tank lol


 

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Then the answer is yes, you can do what you're asking with a PB. With a Warshade too, really. It plays differently, but can accomplish the same result.

With that said, I would not advise you to attempt to assume a main tank role for a group if you have not previously been able to get into and play a Tanker at some point. A basic understanding of how aggro works in this game is critical to effective tanking. Tankers get Gauntlet to make it easier for them to gain aggro, something you will not have as a Kheldian. Your skill at tanking has to make up the difference and if you have no experience as a Tanker, you may not be a very effective main tank. There's more to it than just taunting.

Basically, as a generalist, you can step into several roles (area effect damage dealer, tank, boss killer, crowd control) but you're never going to outshine the specialist in that role. Which is the way it should be. You're not going to out-damage the Blaster, out-scrap the Scrapper, out-control the Controller or out-tank the Tanker. Each of these is going to be better at what they do because it's what they do.

The strength of the generalist is the ability to be all of these, albeit to a lesser degree, at the same time. You won't out-blast the Blaster, but you'll out-blast the Tanker. You won't out-tank the Tanker, but you'll out-tank the Controller. You won't out-control the Controller, but you'll out-control the Scrapper. You get the idea.

Like the old saying goes, "Jack of all trades, master of none, ofttimes better than a master of one." Playing a generalist can be tough, though, because it requires you to know enough about each of the roles you're stepping into to perform them reasonably well. The best Kheldian players tend to have experience playing many different ATs for this reason.


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The strength of the generalist is the ability to be all of these, albeit to a lesser degree, at the same time. You won't out-blast the Blaster, but you'll out-blast the Tanker. You won't out-tank the Tanker, but you'll out-tank the Controller. You won't out-control the Controller, but you'll out-control the Scrapper. You get the idea.



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Like the old saying goes, "Jack of all trades, master of none, ofttimes better than a master of one." Playing a generalist can be tough, though, because it requires you to know enough about each of the roles you're stepping into to perform them reasonably well. The best Kheldian players tend to have experience playing many different ATs for this reason.

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Precisely correct. Justaris' statement is true for all hybrid MMO classes. As a Peacebringer, you're not a Tanker. You can do the job if it happens to come up but you're not going to be as effective. That's not to say you'll fail at it, only that you'll have more difficulty performing similar tasks than Tankers.

The true strength of hybrids is the ability to do what's needed when it's needed from moment to moment. Because of that, using Kheldians to their full ability requires that a player be able to assess situations quickly and accurately and make the correct decision as to what to do. An ambush has descended on the team? Should you go Nova form and use your AoEs to kill it quickly or switch to Dwarf form and keep it at bay while the team continues to engage whatever they're already occupied with? Your decision could affect whether you succeed or fail.

That's why players with cross-AT experience make the best Khelds and PL'ed players make the worst.


 

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I love the fact that as a keld you can pinch hit for any roll. Team lacks defenders and controllers? You can cover their back. Team lacks a tanker? You got that covered too. Team lacks a OMGWTFBBQM8 damage dealer? A warshade can do that in spades.


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Speaking from some tanking experience with my Lv50 PB... you can tank most things short of EB/AV class enemies. However, do bring purples and break-free insps, and also, learn how to joust-tank.

Clearly, my experience was gained while tanking for All-Kheldian teams, which is a lot harder than tanking for mixed-AT teams (the normal team situation you'll find yourself in), but having no real Defender to grant your character any shields or any buffs, and having to rely on non-dedicated heal-other powers other PB's have to heal me, plus my own self-heals, sometimes was not enough...

Like most have said already, if you want a tank, make a tank, if you want a PB that tanks, go right ahead, PB's were made for tanking, in my opinion. Just max out your heals, make sure you can spam those foot-stomps and slot that chance-for-Psi-damage proc in your White Dwarf Antagonize and some Acc in it... and learn to joust, just in case you're required to tank anything heavier than Bosses.

Also, do not, under any circumstances, agree to tank an AE mission, unless you know perfectly well the types of enemies you'll be tanking!


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personally i think warshade's make better tanks than PB's. reason being is you get Eclipse, 2xMires, stygian circle, dark extraction.

yea warshade's have a lot going for them like even taking alpha's in nova form and barely taking a scratch, also warshade's seem to have better DPS then PB's as there's no downtime once u have stygian circle. you get bonus of a stealth and recall friend, and since ur taking eclipse means ur taking hasten so why not ss too?

the only thing pb's have going for them is their version of dull pain, but would u rather have an extra 300 hp or be capped to every type of damage in the game 85% resistances, tanks get their caps at 90% but its impossbiel for a tank to hit capped resistance on every damage type without lots of defenders on the team.

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What did this have to do with the question?

As far as the OP's second post, I would suggest a PB. You can fill most roles and if need be do some decent tanking. I have acted as second tank for ITF (aggroed the nictus) and he did just fine. He isn't fully slotted in dwarf yet either so I expect you should do fine as one.

GL


 

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Now you know full well that's not fair Xen. That crazy [censored] is known for killing EVERYONE regardless of their AT, slotting and general abilities as players