You guessed correctly. Not worth it.
Coincidentally, I did the calculations earlier today since I was curious myself, even though my guess was the same as yours. I took a DPS template build that I'm playing with and plugged into two chains. The first was the traditional Smite -> Midnight Grasp -> Smite -> Siphon Life. It did 217 DPS. The second was Smite -> Shadow Maul -> Smite -> Siphon Life with the proc in Shadow Maul. It only did 186 DPS. Basically, Shadow Maul lasts too long at too low a DPS for the new proc to bring it back up enough to be competitive for single target DPS.
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Not sure, but I slip shadow maul (and sands of mu) into single target chains all the time. The cone is so narrow it's rather hard at times to line up in the middle of a fight.
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What if you stuck it in Soul Drain?
Good luck figuring out which targets it procced on, if any. Might be worthwhile in Death Shroud
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I'm curious Werner, the chain you used that includes the proc misses MG, but SL is the weakest of those three attacks, or it could even replace one of the Smites.
My guess it'd still be a little gimpy (depending on slotting) but might pull ahead a little more in a different chain.
It would be completely worthless in Soul Drain, and not particularly good in Death Shroud. Just like any proc, frequency is important. At best, you get Soul Drain every thirty seconds or so. And the proc would get a chance every ten seconds in Death Shroud. Then you still have the problem identifying the target that ClawsandEffect mentioned. Mind you, you have that problem with Shadow Maul, but the OP was talking about using it in a single-target chain.
As for the chain I posted, yes, there might be a better one. I just took a quick stab at it to figure out if it was worth pursuing, rather than comparing all the possibilities. But I wouldn't personally drop Siphon Life giving up 2/3 of my regeneration to do marginally better DPS isn't in the cards. For the sake of argument and people with other priorities, though, I certainly can. How about Smite -> Midnight Grasp -> Shadow Maul? That's our top two attacks plus the one with the proc. Smite -> Midnight Grasp -> Smite -> Shadow Maul? What would you like to see? I don't have time to calculate it this morning, and I might have company tonight, but I can get to it soonish.
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OK, I got 202 DPS out of Smite -> Shadow Maul -> Smite -> Midnight Grasp, and 189 DPS out of Smite -> Shadow Maul -> Midnight Grasp.
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Thanks, Werner. I don't suppose also putting in the armageddon proc in Shadow Maul would make up any extra ground (that adds like 11-12 dps in Shadow Maul right?). If I could squeeze out any dps over the normal chain using it, I'd do that and switch back to the normal chain when I got hit. Oh well, I'm just being damage greedy 
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I'm comparing these chains with serious DPS builds already. The 202 DPS build, for instance, already has the Armageddon set in Shadow Maul. It has a Hecatomb set in Smite plus another damage proc, and Midnight Grasp has two damage procs. The build has a 25% damage buff from sets, 10.5% from Assault, Soul Drain is almost permanent (30.8 second recharge), there's a chance of build up proc in Tactics, the works.
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I am curious as to how adding the pvp pbaoe io with chance for -res to shadow maul would increase its utility. I don't know how to calculate its long term effects, so can anyone tell me if shadow maul would be worth slipping into a single target chain with that proc added? I'm guessing it still isn't.
Or I suppose I could swap the slotting with soul drain since I use that anyway
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