A new build from a new player


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So, I usually play more damage-oriented characters. My first fifty was a Scrapper, and my second was a Brute. However, I sat down to try out Peacebringers about a week ago, and they just didn't quite click for me. So, I went back over some guides. I poked around here, and played around in game a bit. I've put together a build, and I'd like some opinions.

First up- it's triform. I putting a bit more emphasis on Human and Nova powers, because I don't really know much about tanking, so I'm going to save Dwarf form for an off-tank/panic button situations, or times where I'm teaming and comfortable with the current pace.

Other notes: I took Superspeed instead of Nebulous form. I think it'll give me better overall utility.

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Nether Revenant: Level 50 Science Warshade
Primary Power Set: Umbral Blast
Secondary Power Set: Umbral Aura
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Ebon Eye <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO[/list]Level 1: Absorption <ul type="square">[*] (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%[/list]Level 2: Gravity Shield <ul type="square">[*] (A) Resist Damage IO[*] (3) Resist Damage IO[*] (3) Resist Damage IO[/list]Level 4: Gravimetric Snare <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO[*] (5) Immobilisation Duration IO[/list]Level 6: Dark Nova <ul type="square">[*] (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range[*] (7) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance[*] (7) Endurance Modification IO[*] (45) To Hit Buff IO[*] (50) To Hit Buff IO[/list]Level 8: Starless Step <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO[/list]Level 10: Hasten <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 12: Sunless Mire <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO[*] (15) Accuracy IO[*] (17) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (50) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (50) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]Level 14: Super Speed <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]Level 16: Shadow Cloak <ul type="square">[*] (A) Defense Buff IO[/list]Level 18: Gravity Well <ul type="square">[*] (A) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Accuracy/Hold/Recharge[*] (19) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold[*] (19) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (46) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (48) Essence of Curare - Accuracy/Hold[/list]Level 20: Black Dwarf <ul type="square">[*] (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance[*] (21) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance[*] (21) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[*] (23) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod[*] (23) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Endurance[*] (25) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy[/list]Level 22: Stygian Circle <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (31) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (37) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]Level 24: Swift <ul type="square">[*] (A) Run Speed IO[/list]Level 26: Gravitic Emanation <ul type="square">[*] (A) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (31) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge[*] (39) Stupefy - Stun/Range[*] (46) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance[/list]Level 28: Unchain Essence <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 30: Inky Aspect <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]Level 32: Dark Extraction <ul type="square">[*] (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage[*] (33) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance[*] (33) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance[*] (33) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[*] (34) Blood Mandate - Accuracy[*] (34) Blood Mandate - Damage[/list]Level 35: Quasar <ul type="square">[*] (A) Obliteration - Damage[*] (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (36) Obliteration - Damage/Recharge[*] (36) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (37) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge[*] (37) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage[/list]Level 38: Eclipse <ul type="square">[*] (A) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance[*] (39) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Recharge[*] (40) Impervium Armor - Endurance/Recharge[*] (42) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge[*] (42) Impervium Armor - Resistance[*] (42) Impervium Armor - Psionic Resistance[/list]Level 41: Health <ul type="square">[*] (A) Healing IO[/list]Level 44: Stamina <ul type="square">[*] (A) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod[*] (45) Efficacy Adaptor - EndMod/Accuracy[/list]Level 47: Orbiting Death <ul type="square">[*] (A) Damage Increase IO[*] (48) Accuracy IO[/list]Level 49: Stygian Return <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]------------
Level 1: Brawl <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO[/list]Level 1: Sprint <ul type="square">[*] (A) Run Speed IO[/list]Level 2: Rest <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 1: Dark Sustenance
Level 1: Shadow Step <ul type="square">[*] (A) Endurance Reduction IO[*] (5) Endurance Reduction IO[/list]Level 10: Shadow Recall <ul type="square">[*] (A) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]------------
Level 6: Dark Nova Bolt <ul type="square">[*] (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage[*] (13) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge[*] (39) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (46) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/list]Level 6: Dark Nova Blast <ul type="square">[*] (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage[*] (13) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge[*] (31) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (45) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/list]Level 6: Dark Nova Emanation <ul type="square">[*] (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage[*] (9) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance[*] (11) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge[*] (15) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range[*] (43) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/list]Level 6: Dark Nova Detonation <ul type="square">[*] (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage[*] (9) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance[*] (11) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge[*] (17) Positron's Blast - Damage/Range[*] (43) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance[/list]Level 20: Black Dwarf Strike <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO[*] (43) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 20: Black Dwarf Smite <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO[*] (27) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 20: Black Dwarf Mire <ul type="square">[*] (A) Accuracy IO[*] (29) Recharge Reduction IO[*] (48) Recharge Reduction IO[/list]Level 20: Black Dwarf Drain <ul type="square">[*] (A) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing[*] (27) Doctored Wounds - Heal[*] (29) Focused Smite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge[*] (34) Focused Smite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge[/list]Level 20: Black Dwarf Step <ul type="square">[*] (A) Jaunt - Endurance/Range[/list]Level 20: Black Dwarf Antagonize <ul type="square">[*] (A) Perfect Zinger - Accuracy/Recharge[*] (25) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge[*] (40) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge/Range[*] (40) Accuracy IO[/list]

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I can't be of much help here, sadly, but I was wondering where your sig comes from. It seems very familiar.


's doesn't make things plural.

 

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I can't be of much help here, sadly, but I was wondering where your sig comes from. It seems very familiar.

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The full quote comes from Holly Lisle's novel Diplomacy of Wolves, and is as follows:

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All men die, Antram. All men age and wither and creep at last into their dark graves, and from thence into the flames of hell or cold oblivion, as their theology dictates. But to only a few men do the gods give a task, a burden, a road to greatness that can, if they take it, raise them above the thick clouds of complacency that blind most eyes and plug most ears. To only a few men do the gods give true pain, which removes the bloated cushion of softness and brings sharp awareness of the preciousness of life; which raises up heroes and strips cowards naked before the world. You, Antram, will do great things. Yu will see, you will feel, you will breathe and touch and revel in each moment you are given. And you will suffer great pain. And someday, whether soon or late, you will die. But all men die, Antram. Few ever live."

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First off, Peacebringers and Warshades are Kheldians, but Peacebringers are not Warshades. So, what you've built is a Warshade, not a Peacebringer even though you mention starting out with a PB.

As for the build itself, there's nothing wrong with it, however, I would leave Nova slotted with just EndMod and use the slots elsewhere. I would also pick a different slotting for Dark Extraction, one that would emphasize their recharge over their damage because I think having two pets is usually better than just one pet doing more damage.

Unchain Essence could use some love, especially since coupled with Gravitic Emanation it makes a good tool for stunning Bosses.

Eclipse can be turned into an Endurance recovery tool and since each undefeated enemy around you contributes to your +DmgRes, having a higher +DmgRes slotting in Eclipse isn't as important as it is for your shields or for Dwarf. Speaking of Dwarf, you could frankenslot it for better +DmgResist and better EndMod/EndRdx values and this can make a difference in how survivable you are in Dwarf form.

Orbiting Death is mostly useless if you're not in Human-form enough to take advantage of it and when I am in Human-form on my TriFormShade™, I usually find Inky Aspect a lot more useful than Orbiting Death. Finally, since this is a TriForm build with emphasis on Nova, having such wonderful recovery tools such as Stygian Circle and Eclipse, I think the Fitness could be skipped entirely, mainly because your Human-form attack-chain is not going to actually require you to stay in Human-form for long periods of time.

On my TriFormShade™ I find that I swoop enemies with Nova, hit them with the Nova blasts, followed by Gravitic Emanations, then a well-placed Gravity Well that usually defeats a Minion so that I can use Unchain Essence, Stygian Circle, Eclipse and Dark Extraction (whenever they're up) and shift to Dwarf for a fun melee-centric fight... not that there's much left to fight me, especially not if I mired my Nova before the fights.

Be advised, all of my comments are based on my playstyle and experience, and YMMV.


I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!

Save Ms. Liberty (#5349) Augmenting Peacebringers The Umbra Illuminati

 

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Honestly speaking, the thing I really can't get over about Orbiting Death is just how large an area it covers. It's much larger than the damage/taunt auras on meleers, and it always seems to surprise me when foes quite far away from me start getting those orange numbers.

Of course, it's also dangerous to use for just that same reason. I almost never use it, because I can't currently handle the aggro. It's just so cool, though, that I can't bring myself to drop it.

And just to mention, I have it on both my Tri-Form and my Human Form. My Tri-Form it's taking up space, I did not want to take any ranged attacks with him, so the choice was forced on me at 4. With my Human Form I have it on one build, but not the other. I suspect after I get my Human Form's shields slotted out and get Stygian Circle to handle the End cost, I'll be able to use it. But for now, on both characters it is unslotted and unused.

I just turn it on from time to time just for grins.


 

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If you're a Human-only, running your shields, Eclipse, Inky Aspect and running with a pet or two, I bet you could handle things a bit better... but for a TriFormShade™, it's more of an Orbiting Debt, or an un-used power


I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!

Save Ms. Liberty (#5349) Augmenting Peacebringers The Umbra Illuminati

 

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First off, Peacebringers and Warshades are Kheldians, but Peacebringers are not Warshades. So, what you've built is a Warshade, not a Peacebringer even though you mention starting out with a PB.

[/ QUOTE ] I must have missed a pronoun somewhere- I meant to convey I was trying a Warshade build after not quite liking Peacebringers.

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Unchain Essence could use some love, especially since coupled with Gravitic Emanation it makes a good tool for stunning Bosses.

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What would you recommend? Slotting for accuracy? Stun duration? Damage? Recharge? As much of the above as I can?

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... I think the Fitness could be skipped entirely, mainly because your Human-form attack-chain is not going to actually require you to stay in Human-form for long periods of time.

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I took Fitness because I couldn't really come up with something I might want instead. Is there anything that'll add to my survivability/damage output more?


 

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I can say that with 3 click heals (2x Human &lt;1 being a Dull Pain clone&gt; and 1x Dwarf), a 25 second recharging phase power in Quantum Flight and 2x 140ft Nova blasts slotted with multiple Proc IOs...I really enjoy my PB for PvP &amp; PvE.


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I must have missed a pronoun somewhere- I meant to convey I was trying a Warshade build after not quite liking Peacebringers.

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I think what threw me off is that you very smoothly went from talking about Peacebringer to talking about Warshade but if at all, referred to this as a change in build. Since I view them as two separate ATs actually, I got confused.

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What would you recommend? Slotting for accuracy? Stun duration? Damage? Recharge? As much of the above as I can?

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If you're not going for set bonuses from sets slotted in UE, I personally like to frankenslot it for Acc;Recharge;Stun and if possible, a dash of Dmg;Slow;EndRdx. It really depends on what you want to use the power for. I like to use it as a stun AoE that will stop minions from attacking me while I extract the essence of the defeated NPC, then use Stygian Circle and/or Eclipse if they're up. Others may use it for DPS, but the thing about Warshades is that since we increase our damage potential with those nice Mire attacks, it should be quite easy to use either Mire power and then defeat one NPC and use UE and see a huge chunk of healthy minion-level NPCs melt away, more often than not, they'd simply collapse with no HP left.

The hardest thing to get right about UE is the timing and position of when and where to use it. The slotting totally depends on what you enjoy doing with the power. Since I enjoy stunning NPCs, it's usually +Acc;+Recharge;+Stun, anything I manage to get above and beyond that is sugar-coating.

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I took Fitness because I couldn't really come up with something I might want instead. Is there anything that'll add to my survivability/damage output more?

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Increasing the survivability/damage output of a TriFormShade™ has to come from analyzing your combat tactics. The problem with pool powers is that if they're a toggle power, they're almost useless for a heavy form-centric approach because the power stops being effective a few seconds after you shift from Human-form and the toggle power deactivates.

Power pool powers that are click-powers are slightly better, but require you to be in Human-form to activate them, and their benefits carry over to the forms, but need to be refreshed whenever the power times out and its effects expire (i.e. Hasten).

Passive pool powers like Health and Stamina require our Kheldians to shift to Human-form before activating, and once we shift back to whatever form we require access to, the powers' benefit remains in effect for a few seconds still. The only benefit I can see to taking Health and Stamina (especially for a TriFormShade™) is if you plan to slot them with the +Recover;+Regen proc IO's. I forget what those enhancements are called, but if you don't plan to get them, perhaps the shields or Human-form attacks would be more beneficial.


I believe that a Kheldian Gold Standard should be based on SO's, and for anything above that... there's Platinum!

Save Ms. Liberty (#5349) Augmenting Peacebringers The Umbra Illuminati

 

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Excellent, thank you. That basically sums up all the theoretical stuff I think I'll need. From here on out, it's all practical application.