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playing a dual blade scrapper . I want to solo my whole life away. I was thinking about regen since it has so little down time but can you really solo with it at later lvls? would SR be better i see people talking about it all the time.
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What's your budget? If you've got the money to spend on set IOs, */SR can be a true beast (though it's going to hurt getting to your 30s and the soft cap). If you don't, */wp and */regen both perform admirably. */Regen is going to have a better start though will hurt your DPS a bit simply because of redraw and clickie activation. */WP is going to start a bit slowed but is pretty dangerous. Neither are going to be top performers in the end game, but they'll both do the job adequately.
Regen is perfectly fine at later levels. SR is likely more survivable at late levels, and certainly would need less attention (ie. no click powers), but regen gets QR which helps solve any endurance issues.
Either is perfectly fine, but Regen might be easier soloing due to the lack of endurance troubles. I certainly enjoyed it while getting my MA/Regen to 50.
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yeah my budget is 0 inf lol
With the recent updates to scrapper secondaries there are no bad ones.
With a 0 inf budget your best bang for the non-buck will probably be either Regen or Will Power with Invul next in line.
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playing a dual blade scrapper . I want to solo my whole life away. I was thinking about regen since it has so little down time but can you really solo with it at later lvls? would SR be better i see people talking about it all the time.
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What's your budget? If you've got the money to spend on set IOs, */SR can be a true beast (though it's going to hurt getting to your 30s and the soft cap). If you don't, */wp and */regen both perform admirably. */Regen is going to have a better start though will hurt your DPS a bit simply because of redraw and clickie activation. */WP is going to start a bit slowed but is pretty dangerous. Neither are going to be top performers in the end game, but they'll both do the job adequately.
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Agree I have played both a /regen and a /wp scrapper to 50. I don't solo exclusively but had no difficulty soloing with either secondary all the way to 50. As stated Regen has the edge in the lower game but WP is as good or better in the later game. Oh and with both I am talking nothing but SOs not IO sets.
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I love my DB/Ivuln scrapper but I really wish I had gone DB/Regen simply because I'm sick of having to stop after 1-2 packs to regen end where as my claws/regen guy never needs to look at his end bar. I haven't played WP but if you're looking for a more fire and forget secondary, my understanding is that WP is the way to go as it provides some of the same things as regen but has toggles instead of having to click to keep yourself alive.
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playing a dual blade scrapper . I want to solo my whole life away. I was thinking about regen since it has so little down time but can you really solo with it at later lvls? would SR be better i see people talking about it all the time.
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Regen starts out very strong, whereas SR takes longer to mature, though is awesome when it does.
Both will be able to solo pretty much and only get stronger with more levels (don't all secondaries?)
But yeah, Regen equals zero down time, and allows you to skip stamina. Whereas SR will probably see you chain die in your teens.
Sure, there are other sets, but there are already too many DB/WPs out there, Shields isn't an option and theres a reason noone picks FA.
And as for the other two, DA has 'gaps' and is End heavy, and Inv requires almost all the powers in the set to begin with along with Stamina, which leaves you no room for your primary picks
Which is the single best reason for /Regen.
DB is a very 'fun' set, but you're going to want all the combos for that 'fun' factor. Which means you'll have to pick 8 out of the 9 powers.
Which doesn't leave much room for pool powers.
But /Regen is amazingly complete as a set, so yeah, GO Regen!
PS - because I know I picked on many of the secondaries there, it's important to reiterate that there are no bad secondaries.
But you were specific with what you asked, a good secondary for a solo DB player, and most other secondaries benefit more from facing bigger groups of enemies, while Regen (and SR) benefits from keeping enemy numbers small.
Of course AV soloing might be a lot harder, but then DB probaby isn't the best choice for that anyway.
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I'd probably go with Dual Blades/Willpower. It's very solid and easy to play without all the clicking effort of Regen. Of course, if you LIKE taking a more active role in your survival, Regen is a great set too.
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I'd probably go with Dual Blades/Willpower. It's very solid and easy to play without all the clicking effort of Regen. Of course, if you LIKE taking a more active role in your survival, Regen is a great set too.
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I second this. I was all about /regen until I finally tried teh /WP .. WP is what I would have imagined Regen should be. So imho, if you want regen, go WP.
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is DB not a good primary for AV killing? Is katana better. I am a click happy guy. I kinda hate just sitting there waiting on buttons to regen. I have tried claws for like 10 lvls and it seems kinda slow but It might get faster later. I wouldn't mind a good AV killing machine, but I don't know if I could hanlde the slowness of dark melee or fire. I need to feel involved. I guess thats fallout from my old fire/ice tanker with ice punch and taunt clicking all the time. Boy they nerfed him bad.
DB is perfectly fine for AV stomping goodness as is any Scrapper primary with the exception of Spines/* (which loses out on this simply because it's got heavy AoE focus and rather bad end efficiency). What you should realize, harli, is that all Scrappers are slow and rather squishy at low levels (just like every character). Before you make any judgements, play the character up to at least the upper teens. You'll get a better feel for how the powerset combination will feel then.
DB is a decent primary for AV killing, but Katana is plain better at the task, it's also more click heavy as Katana's best chain involves heavy use of the fastest animating (IIRC) scrapper power, Gambler's Cut.
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DB is a decent primary for AV killing, but Katana is plain better at the task, it's also more click heavy as Katana's best chain involves heavy use of the fastest animating (IIRC) scrapper power, Gambler's Cut.
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Actually, I believe that top tier DB attack strings are capable of more damage than Katana, iirc. The primary advantage of Katana is DA/Parry, which causes loss of dps, and the AH proc. DB can use the AH proc (though with lower, but still significant, gains) and actually has better DPA in most of its attacks. Plus, it's got Blinding Feint. DB can also manage some pretty incredible survivability and significantly better AoE potential than Katana with the Sweep and Attack Vitals combos.
I am not gonna lie I just found out you can get a DB tanker and I am pretty excited about that. I come from a fire tanker background and sometimes get in over my head with my new characters. I might lean more to the tanker side not sure yet. DPS on a tanker is gonna be low though I imagine.
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I am not gonna lie I just found out you can get a DB tanker and I am pretty excited about that. I come from a fire tanker background and sometimes get in over my head with my new characters. I might lean more to the tanker side not sure yet. DPS on a tanker is gonna be low though I imagine.
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It's gonna be lower (by a good margin too), though the survivability is going to he a lot higher. WP/* is one of the more potent and playable of primaries for Tankers. The naturally higher hit points coupled with the high +regen numbers make it a beast. It's easily possible to get */regen with IH level hp/sec at all times with RttC on a Tanker.
Forgive me like I said I haven't really played in about 4 years what does this mean
It's easily possible to get */regen with IH level hp/sec at all times with RttC on a Tanker.
I have a small grasp on the invention system, but not sure what that line means. I hear alot about soft caps and such but I figure till I hit 50 lvl I don't have to worry about it much.
also how come no one makes Architech adventures for lower lvl characters?
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Forgive me like I said I haven't really played in about 4 years what does this mean
It's easily possible to get */regen with IH level hp/sec at all times with RttC on a Tanker.
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This means that a WP/* Tanker using Rise to the Challenge (the taunt aura from Willpower) can get real regen (hit points regenerated per second) equivalent to a */regen Scrapper with Instant Healing activated. Because Rise to the Challenge is a toggle, it's possible to have this hp/sec on a permanent (or near permanent because it requires saturation of RttC) basis.
well that settles it. I am either gonna go DB/WP scrapper or WP/DB tanker. I just need to decide lol. with the tanker I imagine I can wade into larger groups. but with the scrapper the DPS would be higher and could kill larger groups faster. trying to figure which one is better for soloing and which one lvls faster
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trying to figure which one is better for soloing and which one lvls faster
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The Scrapper. Soloing is what Scrappers excel at.
if you are looking to lvl fast and for better soloing I recommend scrapper, every time I try to solo on any of my tankers I just end up going back to my scrappers.
anyone have any builds maybe I could look at just to get some ideas for DB/WP and maybe Kat/WP just for comparison. again thank you all for your help. if your ever on guardian Let me know i will throw you a hello.
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DB is a decent primary for AV killing, but Katana is plain better at the task, it's also more click heavy as Katana's best chain involves heavy use of the fastest animating (IIRC) scrapper power, Gambler's Cut.
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Actually, I believe that top tier DB attack strings are capable of more damage than Katana, iirc.
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Well, that's the conventional wisdom, but it doesn't seem to be correct. I'm seeing very comparable numbers from top tier Dual Blades and Katana chains plugged into a cost no object DPS build template. I calculated 241 for Dual Blades and 244 for Katana, which probably just means "within margin of error". I need to do the rest of the primaries and post the thing. One more thing I may or may not eventually get to.
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playing a dual blade scrapper . I want to solo my whole life away. I was thinking about regen since it has so little down time but can you really solo with it at later lvls? would SR be better i see people talking about it all the time.