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Trashman · 05-31-2009 10:54 AM

Hey guys, I am a veteran newbie (to blasters at least) and I need some advice. I will bow to your expertise on blasters here on the blaster forum. I have a concept of a blaster, and that concept is pure damage. Pure AOE damage to be precise. No utility. And this is for teams mind you, so not really soloing. I don't care how stupid it is, I don't care how many times I die, I want that to happen. So I need some advice on my build. I have already narrowed it down to fire/fire (both AOE giants) so that I have no utility and all AOE and I have made by build but I have a feeling it is not the best it could be. So here it is.

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Firestrider: Level 50 Technology Blaster
Primary Power Set: Fire Blast
Secondary Power Set: Fire Manipulation
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Concealment
Ancillary Pool: Flame Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Flares -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(A), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(5), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(7), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(7)
Level 1: Ring of Fire -- Enf'dOp-Acc/Immob/Rchg(A)
Level 2: Fire Blast -- Dev'n-Hold%(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(13), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(15)
Level 4: Fire Ball -- Ragnrk-Dmg(A), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(5), Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(9), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(9), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(11), Ragnrk-Knock%(15)
Level 6: Rain of Fire -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dam%(40), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(40), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 8: Fire Breath -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(43), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(43)
Level 10: Hover -- RedFtn-Def(A), RedFtn-EndRdx(17), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(17), RedFtn-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19)
Level 12: Fire Sword Circle -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A)
Level 14: Fly -- Srng-Fly(A), Srng-EndRdx(19), Srng-EndRdx/Fly(21)
Level 16: Build Up -- GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(A), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(23), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(23), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(25), GSFC-Build%(25), GSFC-ToHit(27)
Level 18: Blaze -- Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Thundr-Acc/Dmg(27), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(29)
Level 20: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(21), RechRdx-I(29)
Level 22: Aim -- GSFC-ToHit(A), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(37), GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(37), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(37), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(39), AdjTgt-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 24: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 26: Blazing Bolt -- Apoc-Dam%(A), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(31), Apoc-Dmg(31), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(31), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Apoc-Acc/Rchg(40)
Level 28: Health -- Dct'dW-Heal(A), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(36), Numna-Heal/EndRdx(36)
Level 30: Stamina -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(33), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(33)
Level 32: Inferno -- Armgdn-Dam%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Armgdn-Dmg(34), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(34), Armgdn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(36)
Level 35: Consume -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(48), P'Shift-EndMod(50), P'Shift-EndMod/Rchg(50), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(50)
Level 38: Combustion -- Oblit-%Dam(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Oblit-Dmg(42), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(45), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(45), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45)
Level 41: Bonfire -- FrcFbk-Dmg/EndRdx/KB(A)
Level 44: Fire Shield -- Aegis-Psi/Status(A), Aegis-ResDam(46), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(46), Aegis-ResDam/Rchg(46), Aegis-EndRdx/Rchg(48), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 47: Rise of the Phoenix -- Numna-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 49: Stealth -- RedFtn-Def/EndRdx(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance

I didn't take stamina as soon as possible because, well, I don't like stamina and at level 18 I have minimal end problems. And I'll be making my own teams anyway so there will probably always be some kind of end for me. Thanks alot!

Fury Flechette · 05-31-2009 11:38 AM

That's just a bad build.

You have some bad misconceptions. And despite what you say the build has utility and not just AoEs.

1. If you don't want any utility, why bother taking flares? You can skip it you know, though you're giving up the "utility" of firing off a blast when mezzed.

2. Why bother with blazing bolt? Snipes lower dps significantly since they take a long time to fire off. In the same space of time, you could have launched 2, maybe 3 attacks that would do far more damage.

3. Not taking stamina that late on a fire blast build that late is a mistake. You won't be able to attack with any sort of regularity except in bursts. In teams, you might get along with it as long as you're constantly buffed by RA or speed boost, but I tend not to count on having such available and build self sufficient characters that work well in a team and without buffs available. You won't be a "pure damage" character if you are constantly not able to fire off attacks.

4. Your slotting is nonsensical all over the place.

* You've underslotted fire sword circle. That's one of your best AoEs.
* Why bother slotting hover with Red Fortune if you don't covet utility?
* Why bother taking consume? I'd take it, but then again, it's a utility power. And btw, the 6 slotting Performance Shifter here is far from optimal. Most atrocious is placing the +end proc in here. It's useless in there. Strangely, you use the Eff Adaptor in stamina instead.
* Why bother slotting up health? Meanwhile you underslot blaze which is your high damage single target attack.
* Why do you 6 slot aim and build up with Gaussians which only add up to 2 SOs worth of recharge? You'd be better off with 3 Recharge SOs.
* Why take fire shield? I'd take it, but then again, it's a utility power.
* Why aren't you slotting up ring of fire? - it does good damage for an immobilize and if you are building a damage build, it *should* be slotted up. It does more damage than flares, and almost as much as fire blast.

For blasters, you need +recharge, +dmg and +hps (to survive incoming damage) in that approximate order. BTW, do you understand how set bonuses and procs work? I'm guessing you don't.

I'd rate your build 1 star out of 5. It's not the worst thing I've ever seen, but it doesn't serve its intended purpose, it's overly expensive, it misuses expensive IOs in several places (lol @ Numina +Recovery in Rise of Phoenix) and doesn't optimize on the set bonuses that blasters should have.

MutantX_7 · 05-31-2009 12:07 PM

If I were gonna build a Fire/Fire blaster this would be the build I'd use.
It's kind of what I did for my Fire/MM blaster, just modified with/for /Fire. I'm not really sure what if any bonuses you went with, but I went for as much global Recharge and Damage, since this is a team AoE build, the Single target attacks are "under" slotted for dmg but trust me they won't be lacking when needed.

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Level 50 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Fire Blast
Secondary Power Set: Fire Manipulation
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Flame Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Flares

Entropic Chaos -

Accuracy/Damage

Entropic Chaos -

Damage/Endurance

Entropic Chaos -

Damage/Recharge

Entropic Chaos -

Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Entropic Chaos -

Chance of Heal Self

Level 1: Ring of Fire

Enfeebled Operation -

Accuracy/Recharge

Enfeebled Operation -

Endurance/Immobilize

Enfeebled Operation -

Accuracy/Endurance

Enfeebled Operation -

Immobilize/Range

Enfeebled Operation -

Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge

Level 2: Fire Blast

Devastation -

Accuracy/Damage

Devastation -

Damage/Endurance

Devastation -

Damage/Recharge

Devastation -

Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 4: Fire Ball

Positron's Blast -

Accuracy/Damage

Positron's Blast -

Damage/Endurance

Positron's Blast -

Damage/Recharge

Positron's Blast -

Damage/Range

Positron's Blast -

Accuracy/Damage/Endurance

Level 6: Rain of Fire

Positron's Blast -

Accuracy/Damage

Positron's Blast -

Damage/Endurance

Positron's Blast -

Damage/Recharge

Positron's Blast -

Damage/Range

Positron's Blast -

Accuracy/Damage/Endurance

Level 8: Fire Breath

Positron's Blast -

Accuracy/Damage

Positron's Blast -

Damage/Endurance

Positron's Blast -

Damage/Recharge

Positron's Blast -

Damage/Range

Positron's Blast -

Accuracy/Damage/Endurance

Level 10: Fire Sword Circle

Obliteration -

Damage

Obliteration -

Accuracy/Recharge

Obliteration -

Damage/Recharge

Obliteration -

Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Obliteration -

Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 12: Hasten

Recharge Reduction

IO

Recharge Reduction

IO

Recharge Reduction

IO

Level 14: Hurdle

Jumping

IO

Level 16: Build Up

Adjusted Targeting -

To Hit Buff

Adjusted Targeting -

To Hit Buff/Recharge

Adjusted Targeting -

To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge

Adjusted Targeting -

Recharge

Adjusted Targeting -

Endurance/Recharge

Level 18: Blaze

Devastation -

Accuracy/Damage

Devastation -

Damage/Endurance

Devastation -

Damage/Recharge

Devastation -

Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 20: Aim

Adjusted Targeting -

To Hit Buff/Recharge

Adjusted Targeting -

Recharge

Level 22: Health

Healing

IO

Level 24: Stamina

Performance Shifter -

Chance for +End

Performance Shifter -

EndMod/Accuracy

Performance Shifter -

EndMod

Performance Shifter -

EndMod/Recharge

Performance Shifter -

EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge

Level 26: Super Speed

Celerity -

Endurance

Celerity -

+Stealth

Celerity -

RunSpeed

Level 28: Combat Jumping

Red Fortune -

Defense/Endurance

Red Fortune -

Defense/Recharge

Red Fortune -

Endurance/Recharge

Red Fortune -

Endurance

Red Fortune -

Defense

Level 30: Consume

Efficacy Adaptor -

EndMod

Efficacy Adaptor -

EndMod/Recharge

Efficacy Adaptor -

EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge

Efficacy Adaptor -

Accuracy/Recharge

Efficacy Adaptor -

EndMod/Accuracy

Efficacy Adaptor -

EndMod/Endurance

Level 32: Inferno

Obliteration -

Damage

Obliteration -

Damage/Recharge

Obliteration -

Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 35: Super Jump

Jumping

IO

Level 38: Hot Feet

Cleaving Blow -

Accuracy/Damage

Cleaving Blow -

Damage/Endurance

Multi Strike -

Accuracy/Damage/Endurance

Multi Strike -

Accuracy/Endurance

Level 41: Char

Basilisk's Gaze -

Accuracy/Hold

Basilisk's Gaze -

Accuracy/Recharge

Basilisk's Gaze -

Recharge/Hold

Basilisk's Gaze -

Endurance/Recharge/Hold

Level 44: Fire Shield

Titanium Coating -

Endurance

Titanium Coating -

Resistance/Endurance

Titanium Coating -

Resistance

Level 47: Combustion

Eradication -

Damage

Eradication -

Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Eradication -

Damage/Recharge

Eradication -

Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix

Obliteration -

Damage

Obliteration -

Damage/Recharge

Obliteration -

Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

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Level 1: Brawl

Empty

Level 1: Sprint

Empty

Level 2: Rest

Empty

Level 1: Defiance

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[u]Set Bonus Totals:[u]

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[u]Set Bonuses:[u]

[u]Entropic Chaos[u]

(Flares)

[u]Enfeebled Operation[u]

(Ring of Fire)

[u]Devastation[u]

(Fire Blast)

[u]Positron's Blast[u]

(Fire Ball)

[u]Positron's Blast[u]

(Rain of Fire)

[u]Positron's Blast[u]

(Fire Breath)

[u]Obliteration[u]

(Fire Sword Circle)

[u]Adjusted Targeting[u]

(Build Up)

[u]Devastation[u]

(Blaze)

[u]Adjusted Targeting[u]

(Aim)

[u]Performance Shifter[u]

(Stamina)

[u]Celerity[u]

(Super Speed)

[u]Red Fortune[u]

(Combat Jumping)

[u]Efficacy Adaptor[u]

(Consume)

[u]Obliteration[u]

(Inferno)

[u]Cleaving Blow[u]

(Hot Feet)

[u]Multi Strike[u]

(Hot Feet)

[u]Basilisk's Gaze[u]

(Char)

[u]Titanium Coating[u]

(Fire Shield)

[u]Eradication[u]

(Combustion)

[u]Obliteration[u]

(Rise of the Phoenix)

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Trashman · 05-31-2009 12:12 PM

Hey thanks you know it actually helped. I have been away for a long while (I left sometime after I9) so i don't have all the experience when it comes to Inventions.

So I redid my build with your suggestions in mind. Note I didn't put in all of them, such as flares which I view as a filler in my attack chain (which of course you could argue is utility but meh you get the idea)

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.401
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Project Firestrider: Level 50 Technology Blaster
Primary Power Set: Fire Blast
Secondary Power Set: Fire Manipulation
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Flame Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Fire Blast -- Apoc-Dmg(A), Apoc-Dmg/Rchg(3), Apoc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Apoc-Dmg/EndRdx(5), Apoc-Dam%(5)
Level 1: Ring of Fire -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 2: Flares -- Dev'n-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Dev'n-Acc/Dmg(7), Dev'n-Dmg/EndRdx(7), Dev'n-Dmg/Rchg(9)
Level 4: Fire Ball -- Ragnrk-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Ragnrk-Dmg(9), Ragnrk-Dmg/Rchg(11), Ragnrk-Acc/Rchg(11), Ragnrk-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34)
Level 6: Rain of Fire -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dam%(31), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(31), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rng(33)
Level 8: Combustion -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13)
Level 10: Fire Sword Circle -- Armgdn-Dam%(A), Armgdn-Dmg/EndRdx(15), Armgdn-Dmg(15), Armgdn-Dmg/Rchg(17), Armgdn-Acc/Rchg(17)
Level 12: Hover -- LkGmblr-Rchg+(A), LkGmblr-Def(19), LkGmblr-Def/EndRdx(19)
Level 14: Fly -- Frbd-EndRdx(A), Frbd-Fly(21), Frbd-Stlth(21)
Level 16: Build Up -- GSFC-Build%(A), GSFC-ToHit(23), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(23), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(25), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(25), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 18: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 20: Health -- Heal-I(A), Heal-I(27), Heal-I(27)
Level 22: Stamina -- EndMod-I(A), EndMod-I(29), EndMod-I(29)
Level 24: Fire Breath -- Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Posi-Acc/Dmg(31), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(34), Posi-Dam%(36), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 26: Aim -- GSFC-ToHit/EndRdx(A), GSFC-Rchg/EndRdx(36), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(36), GSFC-ToHit/Rchg(37), GSFC-ToHit(37), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 28: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34)
Level 30: Blaze -- Thundr-Acc/Dmg(A), Thundr-Dmg/EndRdx(37), Thundr-Dmg/Rchg(39), Thundr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), RechRdx-I(45)
Level 32: Inferno -- Oblit-%Dam(A), Oblit-Dmg(39), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(40), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(40), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Acc-I(42)
Level 35: Burn -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Dmg(46), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(46)
Level 38: Consume -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(42), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(42), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(43), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(43)
Level 41: Bonfire -- AirB'st-Acc/Dmg(A), AirB'st-Dmg/Rchg(43), AirB'st-Dmg/EndRdx(45)
Level 44: Fire Shield -- ResDam-I(A), EndRdx-I(45)
Level 47: Rise of the Phoenix -- Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(48), Oblit-Dmg(48)
Level 49: Blazing Bolt -- ExtrmM-Acc/Dmg(A), ExtrmM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(50), ExtrmM-Dmg/EndRdx(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance

It still might be expensive, of course, but this is end end end end build. I don't expect to have this right when I hit fifty

Edit: Oh sorry didn't see the other reply. I will play around with that build thank you

Santorican · 05-31-2009 12:31 PM

You're definitely going to want to take Fire Breath over Combustion asap and the same with Blaze. Removed the Gausin set from both Aim and Build up and slotted in Adjusted Targeting for 10% recharge bonus you're only losing 1% damage bonus. Slotted in Stupefy into Rise of The Phoenix.

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Virtue: @Santorican

Dark/Shield Build Thread

Trashman · 05-31-2009 04:46 PM

Excellent thank you Sant I think I might just use that build

Santorican · 05-31-2009 04:54 PM

Glad I could help

Virtue: @Santorican

Dark/Shield Build Thread

STL_Heroes · 05-31-2009 05:38 PM

Oh My GOD! you're building a BLASTER! NOOO!!

Just kidding. Very nice build, just heed those warnings above and you'll be ok kid.