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To comment on Meowtch's post, I want to say that I honestly believe Blackcide/@Fanged Knight was very clear and awesome as the leader of the taunt team, and helped a few of us who were rather new to the experience. On Round One, I taunted the wrong mito, so you would have caught agg there, my bad. This was pointed out to me and corrected before Round Two. And there were a few other times that in team commentary helped us (I think 3 of us were new to Hami'ing) refine our tactics.
We had solid leadership, with NetMinder (i Nubis) helping out as well.
Just saying, I really don't think leadership was an issue from what I saw around. I think a lot of people being really new, which will change, and a less than ideal character make-up were the two biggest flaws, and both of those are easily correctable.
Sadly, I, personally can only correct one of those flaws. Other than my brute, the only thing I have near 45 is a 38 MM.
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I agree 100%.. fang did a great job leading! Our team was pretty organized if you ask me. But i know it takes more than just 1 team to be on the same page...
Not bad for the 1st week.. we'll dial it in soon.
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Guys, not sure where you are drawing from my posts that I am blaming or even bringing up the yellow mito team at all...and Cherry, this is not the first week - there was a break in the redside raids due to the release of MA and terribly poor attendance.
I was not on your team and have not/am not accounting for anything that happened on your team...as I stated, and am now stressing , I haven't mentioned the taunt team at all. NetMinder, out of everyone at the raid, is probably the most qualified to run the brute yellow mito taunt team - I am sure he was able to provide a very solid basis of knowledge for anyone that was unsure of their roles.
I do not believe that any of my posts have laid blame on anyone at all, quite honestly. As a matter of fact, Net is making a super point and if I recall correctly, it happened more than once.
What I will stand by is the fact that - and again NOT blaming anyone at all as I am generally speaking - better organization leads to faster, more efficient raids. History for our attempts at redside raids has proven that attendance is low and in the past, peeps have left because they feel the time it is taking is just too much.
Sorry if you do not like me pointing that out, but Amy/Tom/Kat prove it; I also understand that perhaps no one redside has the time/energy/availability/want to try to organize the way that group of folks do and I can appreciate that to no ends as I certainly am unable due to time contstraints 5 months out of the year.
I wholeheartedly agree with Squid that we should be very proud of what we did and even more proud that the folks who attended stuck it out, I was very surprised just as he was based on the past attempts at weekly raiding.
I have supported Squid and the redside raids the entire time, my only hope is that attendance stays high enough for it to be a stable weekly event like blueside Hami raiding.
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You're taking what I said slightly differently than I intended it...you're mentioning leadership being a problem, I was trying to say that there were solid leaders around, that I saw the problem being more about having a non-ideal character mix and a lot of new people rather than a leadership problem. Just from what I saw.
I didn't mean to say that you were saying we sucked or even really noticed we existed at all, I'm just saying I disagree with your analysis of what the problem was, from what I was seeing. The leadership seemed solid, to me. I used the example of my team because that's the example I saw the most, but the MM's also seemed to be rockin' it. Even the spike team did well for having less than ideal composition and numbers.
Congratz on the raid, wish I could have been there. For the yellow spike team, I agree, there should be 6 brutes and 2 healers just like the taunt team. Everyone should be on the same target to take down the yellows fast. If everyone is all over the place, it'll take longer and cause more deaths. For the most part if the taunt team is doing a good job, you shouldn't get much aggro from the yellows.
The taunt team should be fine as long as each brute taunting has an EoE popped at all times. I find brutes with high HP and regen or with a self heal are the best to use. My SS/Fire was great for taunting in the past raids, except the knockback is annoying.
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and Cherry, this is not the first week - there was a break in the redside raids due to the release of MA and terribly poor attendance.
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Sorry, im kinda new to the red side.. since ive been on that side i hadnt noticed any raid attempts. I have been involved with several on the blue side. I meant it more like the 1st week of hopefully more weeks to come with red side raids.
And, I cant/wasnt comment(ing) on the leadership on other teams, just my own.
Thanks for the kind words from my teammates... Net helped fill in some gaps since it was my first time leading a hami team, but I felt I was ready for it, and the team did great... plus we had an incognito Amy on our team to make sure I didn't f it up...
Lets look at things this way, things can only get better from here...
I have a suggestion to help it out tho, maybe after a yellow drops the taunting brute could go help the spike team clear the rest, I think that would help with more damage...
I had fun out there, it was one of my VG mates first hami raid, Thanks to Steel for leading our team. I wish I would have gotten there on time so I could help with the EoE's, for the brutes.
Having done a few Hami raids, I have taken some things for granted, (ie knowlage of EoE) My friend had a few on him and wasnt until near the end that he noticed them and asked me on TS what were they used for. I did try to get them to the taunt team.
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To comment on Meowtch's post, I want to say that I honestly believe Blackcide/@Fanged Knight was very clear and awesome as the leader of the taunt team, and helped a few of us who were rather new to the experience. On Round One, I taunted the wrong mito, so you would have caught agg there, my bad. This was pointed out to me and corrected before Round Two. And there were a few other times that in team commentary helped us (I think 3 of us were new to Hami'ing) refine our tactics.
We had solid leadership, with NetMinder (i Nubis) helping out as well.
Just saying, I really don't think leadership was an issue from what I saw around. I think a lot of people being really new, which will change, and a less than ideal character make-up were the two biggest flaws, and both of those are easily correctable.
Sadly, I, personally can only correct one of those flaws. Other than my brute, the only thing I have near 45 is a 38 MM.
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I agree 100%.. fang did a great job leading! Our team was pretty organized if you ask me. But i know it takes more than just 1 team to be on the same page...
Not bad for the 1st week.. we'll dial it in soon.