rech % for permamind link ?


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whats the minimum global recharge needed for perma mindlink? also, is pve and pvp recharge % different? if so, whats the global rech for pvp perma mindlink? i remember the devs changing permadom recharge, dont remember how much to though.


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well with out any enhancement to ml and with hasten and set haste total in mids is 171.3% can be lower if you add rech to ml it self here is a short mids i made up you can use if you have mids just to see
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There is no PvP / PvE difference. However, there is a Fortunata / Night Widow difference.

For Fortunata's the Recharge is 300s, Duration 90s and Cast Time 3.67s. Recharge doesn't start till you finishing casting, while the duration starts as soon as the power starts casting. So the formula is Recharge / (Duration - Cast Time) - 1 for the needed recharge. This gives +247.5% for a Fortunata. Basically, you need to approach perma-Hasten.

For a Night Widow the Recharge is 240s with all the rest the same, so you only need +178%. This is very easy to reach with Mental Training and Hasten.


Kosmos

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funny this mids build says i can get it on a fort with 196% global rech and ml IOed for rech as well maybe 240% on that power but 240% global isnt needed

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Did you see me use the word "Global" in there anywhere? The numbers I gave are total +Recharge needed; slotted + Global. With 95% in ML on a Fortunata you "only" need 153.5% Global. Which is roughly 88% Global + Hasten.


Kosmos

Global: @Calorie
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I 6 slotted mine and did the ToHit/Rech trick, and 95% gives me Perma.


 

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i got the part about global recharge but, how can i decide how much recharge on ml itself can i subtract from my global rech so i dont have to go with so many global rech set bonuses?

here is a build i made, am i close to perma ml?


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I 6 slotted mine and did the ToHit/Rech trick, and 95% gives me Perma.

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95% including hasten or not including it?
how exaclty do u have hasten and ml slotted?


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i got the part about global recharge but, how can i decide how much recharge on ml itself can i subtract from my global rech so i dont have to go with so many global rech set bonuses?

here is a build i made, am i close to perma ml?


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To avoid a gap you need ML's Recharge to be around 86.3s. Even with Hasten running the Recharge on ML in that build is 91.5s. The slowest you'll see is when the 22.2s gap in Hasten is completely within the ML recharge period - in which case the ML Recharge time will be 96.2s. So you will see a consistent gap, which will vary from about 5 to 10 seconds.

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You need about 25% more Global +Rech with that ML and Hasten slotting to reach "pseudo-Perma" (that is, the average recharge time matches what is neede, but you may fall short some of the time because the +Rech buffs come-and-go). In that case the gap in Hasten would be down to 9.8s. With Hasten running the ML Recharge time would be 85.0s. With the full 9.8s Hasten gap in the ML recharge period it would be 87.0s. You would see gaps occasionally (about 30% of the time you'd have a gap of up to 7/10ths of a second).

To get true perma on ML you need the gap in Hasten down to about 8s. Which is about 88% Global +Rech. With +88% you get Hasten down to 8.4s gap. With the whole gap counting, ML's Recharge time would be 86.0s. So even worst case ML still fires before the previous buff expires.


Kosmos

Global: @Calorie
MA Arcs in 4-star purgatory: Four in a Row (#2198) - Hostile Takeover (#69714) - Red Harvest (#268305)

 

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got it, thanks for the explanation


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got it, thanks for the explanation

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Just to answer your question late, I didn't take hasten nor will I ever on any toon, except my WS if I wanna go with perma-Eclipse.


 

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got it, thanks for the explanation

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Just to answer your question late, I didn't take hasten nor will I ever on any toon, except my WS if I wanna go with perma-Eclipse.

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Are you playing a Night Widow? Because you can't perma-ML a Fortunata without Hasten given "just" 95% Global. Even putting 6 L50 Rech IOs in ML will leave you about 9.5s short.


Kosmos

Global: @Calorie
MA Arcs in 4-star purgatory: Four in a Row (#2198) - Hostile Takeover (#69714) - Red Harvest (#268305)

 

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got it, thanks for the explanation

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Just to answer your question late, I didn't take hasten nor will I ever on any toon, except my WS if I wanna go with perma-Eclipse.

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Are you playing a Night Widow? Because you can't perma-ML a Fortunata without Hasten given "just" 95% Global. Even putting 6 L50 Rech IOs in ML will leave you about 9.5s short.

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Yup, I play a NW. Fortunata's just aren't my gamestyle.

I do need to update the old /Rech enhancements in ML, then I should be able to perma with about 55-65%.


 

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There is no PvP / PvE difference. However, there is a Fortunata / Night Widow difference.



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Actually, there is due to diminishing returns in PvP. You will need significantly higher recharge bonuses in PvP if you want perma ML, if it is even still possible.


 

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There is no PvP / PvE difference. However, there is a Fortunata / Night Widow difference.



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Actually, there is due to diminishing returns in PvP. You will need significantly higher recharge bonuses in PvP if you want perma ML, if it is even still possible.

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True, the powers and the +Rech needed are the same, but you need a lot more buffs to get there in PvP.

If the Recharge cap of +400% is applied before DR then the most +Rech you can get in PvP is +212.1% (that's Enhancement plus Buff). Which isn't enough to perma-ML a Fortunata. If not then you need about +536% before DR. This is essentially impossible even if the cap isn't applied till after DR.

For a NW you need about +292% before DR (again, that's total +Rech: Enhancement plus Buff). Which is basically a perma-Hasten build +15%.


Kosmos

Global: @Calorie
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Nobody likes slotting Membrane Exposure Hamis in Mind Link?