Does this violate the rule of five?

Got carried away and slotted 4 sets of 4 Reactive Armor (1.25% en/neg defense), 1 set of 3 Crushing Blow (1.25% en/neg defense), and a full set of T-strikes. Do the Thunderstrikes count as both a 2.5 and a 1.25 en/neg defense bonus, and thus I have one too many 1.25 e/n def bonuses? Or are they counted differently?

edit: "thus" replaced "this"

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If we are to die, let us die like men. -- Patrick Cleburne
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The rule is that they must be loved. --Jayne Fynes-Clinton, Death of an Abandoned Dog

Hmm, that's a good question. Just tossing those IOs into random powers in Mids says that you're not over set bonus cap (since it goes by name rather than bonus type or percentage). You should be fine.

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I concur that it should be OK. The 2nd Energy def portion in Thunderstrikes is a side-effect of the ranged defence, and the later pairing of typed/positional.

That said, when you get the build together it would be nice to have confirmation through the real numbers box.

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@Catwhoorg "Rule of Three - Finale" Arc# 1984
@Mr Falkland Islands"A Nation Goes Rogue" Arc# 2369 "Toasters and Pop Tarts" Arc#116617

Thanks. I slotted the IOs without carefully looking at the combat stats monitor before-and-after. I can go through the bonuses one-by-one and try to confirm, but haven't done that yet. Also, the character has a lot of set bonuses, making it hard to simply read through the list and count "small energy/negative defense bonus" or whatnot. Looking at it last night, I *thought* I saw a slightly different wording for one of them, which would imply that it might indeed be counted differently (something like "ranged small energy/negative defense bonus", maybe? I forget). But frankly I think that the bonus description would appear in the list of set bonuses even if the bonus was being excluded from actually working by the rule of five -- so you're right, comparing the real number total to the expected total by hand seems to be the surest way to establish this.

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If we are to die, let us die like men. -- Patrick Cleburne
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The rule is that they must be loved. --Jayne Fynes-Clinton, Death of an Abandoned Dog

Copy to test. Check the number. Delete enough to strip one bonus away. Check the numbers. ????? Profit.

RagManX

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"if the market were religion Fulmens would be Moses and you'd be L. Ron Hubbard. " --Nethergoat to eryq2

The economy is not broken. The players are

I concur with mac and Cat. However, testing/calculating is the the best approach, and leads to Profit, as Rag put it.

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yeah i would take period guy's advice.

oh, and gotchya, rag =P

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Well, I tried to go on Test last night, but it's been a long time, and the loading bar predicted another 45 minutes of file checking before it would open Test. I was starving to play after being busy offline almost the entire weekend, so I canceled it. I'll get Test loaded some time soon -- and then I'll see if Test is usable again. Several issues ago test became unusably laggy for me-- like several seconds between each frame -- and it's never gotten better. Maybe it's fixed by now.

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If we are to die, let us die like men. -- Patrick Cleburne
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The rule is that they must be loved. --Jayne Fynes-Clinton, Death of an Abandoned Dog

Okay, finally got Test correctly updated. When I start it it hangs after I select a character -- cannot get into Test at all.

Oh well.

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If we are to die, let us die like men. -- Patrick Cleburne
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The rule is that they must be loved. --Jayne Fynes-Clinton, Death of an Abandoned Dog

just did test on mids myself and you will be ok. as long as the bonus name does not appear more thenn 5 times, meaning the exact same bonus name, you will be ok.

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just did test on mids myself and you will be ok. as long as the bonus name does not appear more thenn 5 times, meaning the exact same bonus name, you will be ok.

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While the conclusion is correct (2.5% Ranged, 1.25% Energy/Negative ("Moderate Increased Ranged/Energy/Negative Energy Def Bonus") and 1.25% Energy/Negative, 0.625% Ranged ("Tiny Increased Energy/Negative Energy/Ranged Def Bonus") are different set bonuses and will thus not count towards the same limit), I'd generally caution against using Mids' to "test" how something works. While Mids' tends to have good information, it is not the game, and does not accurately show all peculiarities of the game.

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