Vehicles as travel powers. This gets brought up a lot.
First, a tip on searching.
1. Click on "Search" up at the top of the forum.
2. On the left, under "Forum(s) to search," select "Suggestions and ideas."
3. On the right, Keyword Search Terms. This is probably where your problem was if you did search. Try the following, exactly as typed:
+vehicle -"re: "
This will search for anything with the string "vehicle" in the title.The -re: portion of it removes replies, so you'll see the root of every thread that comes up, letting you see just how many threads there are on this. (The last helps for other subjects, as well.)
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7. Result format doesn't matter. Click on "Submit."
Now, on to the topic at hand....
Short answer, don't expect it.
Long answer:
There are a lot of problems with the idea.
1. Movement.
Forward and back,even turning - ok. But you can do things that a vehicle can't - such as strafe (direct side to side or angular movement.) It doesn't work with a vehicle.
2. Terrain.
Not every place has roads, or even makes sense for "off roading." Go look at Founder's Falls. Go look at Crey's Folley. Or Eden. Try to get to the north islands in Talos. What, do you have a kubelwagen? Look at the Pit in Sharkshead. Try to use your travel power (car) to get up to some of the doorways in high caves. Cars and motorcycles would be more like Superspeed - horizontal movement, period. And look - I'll be blunt - flat out *stupid* tied with, say, Combat Jumping or Superjump.
3. Combat.
You get ambushed on the way. How do you fight? Just have your powers blast out of the rolled up windows? How do you buff or debuff? EVERY power would need a new animation. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Then you want people with motorcycles instead of cars. Redo ALL the animations AGAIN. And they still wouldn't make sense - how do you use Footstomp in a car? Or Stalagmites?
4. Customizing.
Yeah, it would come up. Not everyone would want a sports car, or a mid-70s Buick boat, or an exotic, or a minivan, or whatever else.
5. Making "sense."
This was touched on in terrain - how do you get across water? How about the Shadow Shard? And if you want downright ridiculous looking, go do the heroside 25-34 Respec. Look at the Sky Skiffs inside of rooms or the reactor room. It makes no sense and looks *ridiculous.* Something that, yes, the devs try to avoid.
That's just a quick overview of some of the issues with having vehicles as a travel power.
Nope. You may want to read the thread which was linked in your other post about it, as to why not.
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Since this mostly comes down to power customization, not likely. Also, for vehicles like Motorcycles and Cars, the roads in CoX aren't really constructed for that kind of travel. If you look around you find that many of them dead end or loop around for no reason other than aesthetics.
And the vehicles that are on the roads now would become a major travel problem since they all move so slow and would collide with player vehicles. The whole city would need to be reconstructed to work with those kind of vehicles.
Then of course there's the problem of what happens if you are attacked and what happens when you use another power. Are you locked out of using powers? How does the animation work? Does the vehicle vanish? What about in missions? Would you be driving a car through office hallways?
There are just too many problems that would arise to really consider vehicles as valid travel powers, and the devs have said as much.
Edit: /e snaps- Darn! Bill beat me with his canned response.
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Also why would you use and aircraft or car in a cave??? That's insipid.
1 more thing look at my other subject on how 2 attack on the same topic of how to fight.
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How about you actually read what I posted, and realize it's posted because this gets brought up quite a bit.
And, to use your own words, but with corrected and complete spelling and more courtesy, "think about things before getting upset about someone's disagreement and posted reasons."
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Not really you don't have to have a big vehicle just for a kind of small size for one person not group.
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In a purely text based medium, presentation is important. To be honest, it's important anywhere, but moreso when all you have to work with is text. If you don't want people to take you or your ideas seriously, continue on the way you are. Add the same attitude and you'll have fewer people reading anything you say.
If you want to look foolish, keep on as you are. You're doing a great job. The first, second, and third impressions you're making are SURE to help anyone take you more seriously than a five year old.
If you want to give the impression that you actually care about the idea and are the least bit serious about it, put some thought and work into both the presentation and content of your posts. This isn't "texting," you don't get charged per letter as some places used to do (part of the reason for the ridiculous "b4 u" nonsense.) Nor is there a low character limit to posts. There's no reason to mangle your own words here.
Take a little pride in your idea and in yourself. Type things out, try for correct spelling and grammar, and try to actually take criticism as just that - criticism, not a personal attack. Your idea is not a unique snowflake. If it were, it wouldn't have gotten a cut and paste reply.
Good luck in your future attempts.
Wow, man. If this is how you are going to take reasoned criticism you may not want to visit these boards. Bill and I simply told you the many reasons that vehicles are not being considered. The devs have said the same thing when they responded to these questions in the past. I'm sorry you don't like it, but that's the way it is.
You can't just blurt out something you think of (which has been suggested many times before and can be found easily by using the Search feature) and expect everyone to jump on your bandwagon like you're awesome. You are going to received negative responces. You are going to be told what other players have been told about the same subject. Calling names and being a **** will not change that. In fact, it will just make it worse.
And in this forum, we do not take kindly to the mutilation of the English language. This is not an IM board. This is not twitter or your cell phone. This is a forum. If you want people to understand what you are saying it is generally a good idea to use proper grammar.
Good luck to you if you can't deal with that.
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He already did. You just didn't like it.
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*sigh*
Grow a thicker skin. And just grow up. I gave a direct response to "the subject," and this little tantrum of yours is how you replied. So if anyone's "being" one (by the way, altering words to get around the filter = against message board rules) it's not me.
I wasn't getting angry at you guys it's just how Bill came at me and how I typed, so i wasn't jumping on you guys about your opinions its just how you come at someone with your replys.
Since you want to say grow up I'm not a grown up on not even 16 so thx for trying to get technical.
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I wasn't getting angry at you guys it's just how Bill came at me and how I typed, so i wasn't jumping on you guys about your opinions its just how you come at someone with your replys.
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No, it was most certainly "jumping on you guys about your opinions." You were given a calmed, reasoned reply because of the many times this has been brought up.
Quoting your immediate reply:
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It's not just the horrendous typing but the attitude that's getting you the response you're getting, sparky. The above quote is not a rebuttal. It is not encouraging further discussion. It's not clarifying, altering or expanding the idea. It's you throwing a temper tantrum.
Do that, and you'll be treated like a five year old. Or just dumped on ignore.
I know he did and i gave him a response and he didn't think it was good enough for him.
Well just know this I'm a hot head I've always been told that I'll live up to that. 
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Well just know this I'm a hot head I've always been told that I'll live up to that.
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Then I'm done with you, as you seem utterly disinterested in improving either the idea or yourself, or engaging in actual discussion. Learn to control it if you want anyone to take you seriously. I don't know or care about your reputation as a "hothead." Just remember, the saying about first impressions being important is true for a reason, and you've made a horrible one.
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Well just know this I'm a hot head I've always been told that I'll live up to that.
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Hot heads tend to get banned here. Because we LIKE it when people are polite, restrained and well-informed.
Use the search feature, I know Bill just posted a way for you to learn how. This forum's search is pretty wonky, so take his post to heart.
He also posted a well-informed and long-standing *reason* why your idea will not be implemented and why it would not work.
Again, I highly recomend you *read those things* and try to put yourself in the position of a developer.
Do they have the engine that can do anything like what you want? Can you cite examples already in the game, of those things? Is there some reason beyond 'it looks cool' that you would want to put these powers into the game?
Yes, that looks like a pop quiz. You should be used to those, I'm sure, in school. Perhaps you should think about those questions before responding. You so far are the only person in either of your threads who is using poor language and getting angry and kneejerking at anyone. So calm yourself down - this isn't the WoW boards. We respond to both ideas AND literacy.
And when the literacy level is in the gutter, the idea is not very far behind.
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my 24 cents (same 2 cents i've used a dozen times)
Vehicles, while conceptually cool, would take a lot of resources to design and code. About the same as several new powersets, or dozens of costume sets, or a new zone, or a bunch of new enemy groups.
Considering that we have travel powers already and there is no pressing "need" for vehicles, their may be a "want" but no "need".
We can already run as fast as a motorbike, or fly like a jet. Given the limited use of Vehicles they would become largely a cosmetic enhancement. A cosmetic enhancement that would come at the cost of other game improvements.
PS. Mephis Bill is a pretty smart and on to it guy, he just gets annoyed at people posting the same idea over and over again (like a lot of forum regulars) Bill is a knowledge base on the game, so being rude to him is just shooting yourself in the foot and making others dislike your attitude. The COX forums are pretty civil most of the time, and we respect reasoned and rational arguements. Continue to act like a child and you will be treated like one. Act with respect and you will get respect.
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I know he did and i gave him a response and he didn't think it was good enough for him.
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Your response
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Your response wasn't good enough for anyone. You pertty much called him dumb and acted like a child.
Bill knows what he is taking about. And that is not just him saying it, it was stuff he took from years of being on the forum. This as been brought up many of time before and it will be brought up again.
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Vehicles as travel powers. This gets brought up a lot.
First, a tip on searching.
1. Click on "Search" up at the top of the forum.
2. On the left, under "Forum(s) to search," select "Suggestions and ideas."
3. On the right, Keyword Search Terms. This is probably where your problem was if you did search. Try the following, exactly as typed:
+vehicle -"re: "
This will search for anything with the string "vehicle" in the title.The -re: portion of it removes replies, so you'll see the root of every thread that comes up, letting you see just how many threads there are on this. (The last helps for other subjects, as well.)
Be sure to put the space between the colon and last quote.
4. Click the "In subject" radio button. This is a search, not a cute blonde in a bikini. Here, you want to ignore the body.
5. Leave Username Search blank.
6. Date range, Newer Than, change the 1 to a 3, and the time to Months.
7. Result format doesn't matter. Click on "Submit."
Now, on to the topic at hand....
Short answer, don't expect it.
Long answer:
There are a lot of problems with the idea.
1. Movement.
Forward and back,even turning - ok. But you can do things that a vehicle can't - such as strafe (direct side to side or angular movement.) It doesn't work with a vehicle.
2. Terrain.
Not every place has roads, or even makes sense for "off roading." Go look at Founder's Falls. Go look at Crey's Folley. Or Eden. Try to get to the north islands in Talos. What, do you have a kubelwagen? Look at the Pit in Sharkshead. Try to use your travel power (car) to get up to some of the doorways in high caves. Cars and motorcycles would be more like Superspeed - horizontal movement, period. And look - I'll be blunt - flat out *stupid* tied with, say, Combat Jumping or Superjump.
3. Combat.
You get ambushed on the way. How do you fight? Just have your powers blast out of the rolled up windows? How do you buff or debuff? EVERY power would need a new animation. EVERY. SINGLE. ONE. Then you want people with motorcycles instead of cars. Redo ALL the animations AGAIN. And they still wouldn't make sense - how do you use Footstomp in a car? Or Stalagmites?
4. Customizing.
Yeah, it would come up. Not everyone would want a sports car, or a mid-70s Buick boat, or an exotic, or a minivan, or whatever else.
5. Making "sense."
This was touched on in terrain - how do you get across water? How about the Shadow Shard? And if you want downright ridiculous looking, go do the heroside 25-34 Respec. Look at the Sky Skiffs inside of rooms or the reactor room. It makes no sense and looks *ridiculous.* Something that, yes, the devs try to avoid.
That's just a quick overview of some of the issues with having vehicles as a travel power.
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This.
It would be nice if we could have vehicles for travel powers? As in cars, motorcycles, helicopters, etc.
Is there a possibility that can happen?