They are both complete secrets. Only time travelers have access to one, and the other is filled only with people who fight in order to preserve and protect magics/etcetera. Both are invisible to the public eye, even to some of the major villain groups. I'd think the inter-dimensional ones like Malta, Arachnos and Longbow know about them. *And Nemesis.* 
And interaction would be pretty nominal. I think both organizations would treat members of any group exactly the same. Mrs. Liberty has access to Ouroboros for example, and she can also use the pillar.
so would you all the heroes/villians know of them? or only a few? I figure it would be like the Secret Wars from the Spider-man cartoon series, Outside of Beyonder, Madam Web and the heroes and villians who were involved in it, no-one knew anything of it.
That's pretty much it. Only select heroes/villains would know, unless told off-hand. (And let's face it,you'd be skeptical unless you actually saw it)
It depends on how closely guarded certain characters treat the secret. Some of them probably try to keep it only in the know, while others have no problem plunking down an Ouroboros portal in the name of "efficiency."
As a result, many heroes and villains probably know of the places (though both have to prove themselves significantly in order to learn the Midnighters' secret of Cimerora, regardless of what meta human counterparts may have told them), but may not have access.
Some normal people may have knowledge (that they may relate to the characters as they pass by), too, but this could be for any number of reasons. They could have family in the know, they could be Nemesis automatons, they could even be off-duty or undercover members of the various groups.
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so in other words it's like the Philosphers or the Illuminati. Most people have heard about them, but most of those people don't beleive they actually exsist, that how you explaining it Grey?
Yeah, that's a good way of putting it, Tor. It's just varying degrees of knowledge, depending on how close to the groups various individuals are and how serious the characters in the know are taking the secrets. See, the Illuminati and Philosophers more than likely (see, saying "more than likely" proves I'm not privy to either group's circles 
) have far more stringent recruiting practices, so even if they do exist, the membership is full of like-minded individuals in the regards of the importance of keeping the secret of the group (though, for the Philosophers, this strikes me as a disservice to the group; one would think they'd like divergent philosophies to bounce off one another, but I digress...). The Menders and Midnight Squad, however, need people of power, which means they're slightly desperate and through this desperation, secrets can leak out.
Apparently, though, it's manageable. I still run into newbies every so often who freak whenever an Ouro Portal is dropped in front of them, so they've been doing something right...
I'd say the Menders are a more secretive group, though. The Midnighters have been more public in history, too, so it's a little harder for them to keep the resurgence of their group a secret, but the reasons for it would be easier (if you need to explain why, as a hero, you can join the group at level 10 but not enter Cimerora until 35, for instance).
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Look at that. A full-grown woman pulling off pigtails. Her crazy is off the charts.
Something I just saw ingame that might be worth noting. One of the headlines the newsie in Talos is selling mentions Ouroboros.
[Admin] Emperor Marcus Cole: STOP!
[Admin] Emperor Marcus Cole: WAIT ONE SECOND!
[Admin] Emperor Marcus Cole: WHAT IS A SEAGULL DOING ON MY THRONE!?!?
Also, all of the Midnighter buildings have the logo stamped firmly on every single shingle. Look on the sides of their building sometime.
It's a mistake to call them actually "secret", especially considering anyone can join simply by knowing the club handshake.
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Yeah, that's a good way of putting it, Tor. It's just varying degrees of knowledge, depending on how close to the groups various individuals are and how serious the characters in the know are taking the secrets. See, the Illuminati and Philosophers more than likely (see, saying "more than likely" proves I'm not privy to either group's circles ) have far more stringent recruiting practices, so even if they do exist, the membership is full of like-minded individuals in the regards of the importance of keeping the secret of the group (though, for the Philosophers, this strikes me as a disservice to the group; one would think they'd like divergent philosophies to bounce off one another, but I digress...). The Menders and Midnight Squad, however, need people of power, which means they're slightly desperate and through this desperation, secrets can leak out.
Apparently, though, it's manageable. I still run into newbies every so often who freak whenever an Ouro Portal is dropped in front of them, so they've been doing something right...
I'd say the Menders are a more secretive group, though. The Midnighters have been more public in history, too, so it's a little harder for them to keep the resurgence of their group a secret, but the reasons for it would be easier (if you need to explain why, as a hero, you can join the group at level 10 but not enter Cimerora until 35, for instance).
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... or, perhaps, the Midnight Club are more like the Masons. You know they're there. You can go by the buildings, see masonic symbols and markings on them and the like - but not everyone gets in, and so there's a lot of "They do this, know that, etc." floating around about them.
Ouroboros would be more like, oh, UFOs. "I saw a..." "Sure you did." Though I'd think time travel wouldn't be as "out there" in the COH world, with portals (and aliens...) pretty everyday knowledge.
Hey all, question for ya. From a Roleplay stand, how do you figure Oroborus and Cimerora are treated with reguards to the rest of the world? I've always gotten a sence that they're secrets that only a few know of. Sure lots of the midnighters club, but not so many know they have the time-travel system that goes back 4000 years.
What do you think?
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