Two MORE new Rowrfits from Daggerpoint!!!

[ QUOTE ]
I know you don't know me, but I have Flash and know how to use it. A slideshow .swf would be simplicity itself. Send me a PM.

[/ QUOTE ]
The request was for a paperdoll*, not slideshow.

*Something that could be updated later by the end-user, if I remember the previous request correctly.

Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters

Yea I sent a PM !

But yeah not a slide show. Something you can drag and drop outfit pieces OR have little arrow 'selectors' for various parts. Maybe with a color selector too for parts that can be colored. I have an example I really really like I can show ya!

1) Is Daggerpoint "down" with the idea of messing with his images? I notice he's got watermarks and copyrights all over at least two of the images.

2) Do you have access to the individual elements? That is, can/will Daggerpoint supply you with a base "naked/underwear Rowr" and images of the clothing elements separated from Rowr's image? The clothing can be photoshopped out but the base image of Rowr really needs to come from Daggerpoint for it to look right. Daggerpoint's original costume elements will be much nicer to use than being forced to extract them via Gimp/Photoshop. If you have his cooperation, then you could also get hold of the belly shirt an shorts that seems to be Rowr's signature look. (That image is one of them that is covered in a big ol' watermark.)

3) Are you married to the idea of using Flash? You can do this with HTML and CSS these days, making it rather easier to update with new outfits when you receive them. You could update it yourself using some basic instructions instead of depending on people with special expertise and/or software.

4) Do you have someplace to host it? I'm sure lots of us here have places it could be developed but for permanent hosting, you'd want your own website. Your commercial ISP probably supplies you with some personal web space that ought to be sufficient for something like this, providing you can easily update the files.

1) Yes. He has given me permission to do whatever I want with the outfits.

2) Yes I have several outfits

3) Flash I figure would be easiest. I can do HTML but it would takes soooo much coding and figuring out that I just don't have time to do. I am looking for more than just an 'image flip'. With each new outfit adds exponentially to the number of 'combinations' I would have to add. Flash with drag and drop 'parts' I figure would be easiest. But then again I don't know Flash so I have no idea.

4) *see my sig*

Thats a pretty cool idea Rowr! Can't wait to see it!

no idea how hard/easy it is to make a dress-up style flash that you're aiming for, but I'm guessing it's average in difficulty, based on the number of dress-up doll flashes that appear on newgrounds and other places, including dA

Edit: ooo found a tutorial in DA. There's prolly a bunch more but that one looks fairly detailed on a quick look.

I wish I had this tutorial when my trial period of flash was still active....

*swoon*

I want my kitty dolly! >;p

Okay, what about the "pieces"? Daggerpoint probably created the originals in photoshop and layered the clothing bits. Can he supply you with the "paper doll" and the clothing bits separated into individual images? The alternative is to hand edit the pics to extract the clothes, which will look dodgy around the edges if it's anti-aliased, which it almost certainly is. Additionally, you need "naked" Rowr to layer the clothes onto on your web app.

To see what I mean, compare the covered areas and uncovered areas between the three bikini tops. They're not identical. It means that you can't just make a bikini-sized hole and expect a slave girl top to fit over it. You need the base naked Rowr that Daggerpoint is using to layer the clothes over in his images.

You also need his clothing bits in a photoshop file as a layer with transparency or at least as an image with an alpha channel. It amounts to the same thing. (Not really, but in practice it's the same as long as the person manipulating the images is also using Photoshop.)

Finally, the classroom picture implies that he's got "paper doll Rowr" saved as a separate image that he can layer on any background. That means that he should be able to supply the Rowr background and the classroom background along with whatever custom backgrounds you choose in the future.

This is why I say you need Daggerpoint's cooperation. You can't do it with just the images he's given you unless you just don't care about the quality. You really need access to his original photoshop files or at least some of those images saved as individual bits.

*EDIT* Ah, yes, read the tutorial that Hericane linked to. Showing things visually is much better than trying to explain them without a reference.

[ QUOTE ]
Okay, what about the "pieces"? Daggerpoint probably created the originals in photoshop and layered the clothing bits. Can he supply you with the "paper doll" and the clothing bits separated into individual images? The alternative is to hand edit the pics to extract the clothes, which will look dodgy around the edges if it's anti-aliased, which it almost certainly is. Additionally, you need "naked" Rowr to layer the clothes onto on your web app.

[/ QUOTE ]
Which is why I said I didn't have the time to do this. To have to edit out all the clothing pieces, fix the original doll, then make colored versions of the piece, and finally allow other pictures to be added by Rowr later is just too excessive for my schedule.

As to the DA tutorial, yes, that is one way to do things, but doesn't allow images to be added to it at a later date (something that I would want to do so Rowr wouldn't need to have someone come back and re-visit the flash program.)

Triumph: White Succubus: 50 Ill/Emp/PF Snow Globe: 50 Ice/FF/Ice Strobe: 50 PB Shi Otomi: 50 Ninja/Ninjistu/GW Stalker My other characters

Riptide:
I've got everything. Trust me. What is on the web is not just what I have. He has sent me the .psd files with each outfit as a separate layer. Yes, even down to 'naked'.

Groovy. The only real problem I can see is that Rowr's right hand is touching her leg. That'll take some creative coding for outfits that cover her legs, though I suppose you can take the easy way out and attach the hand to the pant leg in that case.

I don't mean to sound like I'm talking down to you - I'm a technician, not an artist, so I see problems in terms of technical requirements, and I deal every day with people who know just enough about tools to be dangerous. *heh*

Well, I'd do this with DHTML myself, but if you want Flash and you don't have the software, I'd bet you can find an open source equivalent.

Just because you said something about "image flipping", I'd emphasize that modern web browsers are perfectly capable of displaying a bunch of images on their own layers and moving them around. It wouldn't be some kind of image swap pretending to be a paper doll.

[ QUOTE ]
Yes, even down to 'naked'.

[/ QUOTE ]
Aw yeaaaaah.

An example of a simple, yet effective DHTML "paper doll" -- Star Trek Miniature Maker.

The website linked above is web app whose purpose is to build, from costume bits, a Star Trek character from any generation of the show. Ultimately, it's intended for PnP role-playing - You screen-cap the final picture, crop it, print it, cut it out and fold it and you end up with a paper miniature to use in your Star Trek RPG sessions.

Pick a season of the show, then "view source" on that page. You'll see that there's very little in the way of code going on. Most of the page is just the img tags that load the costume bits. Basically, anyone with a text editor and the technical savvy to cut and paste could maintain this and add to it.

And it doesn't work in Firefox.
But yeah hm... doesn't seem like there is too much to it.

But it's gotta be cross-browser compatible. Which is why I was leaning towards Flash because that works everywhere

nor does it work in Safari. Great example. lol

*eyeroll* It's an example. It's not my problem that the guy who made it doesn't care about non-IE browsers. He chose simplicity over complexity. For 90% of the world, it'll work fine. The point was not "this is a wonderful example of coding", it was "this illustrates that you don't need Flash to just move some costume bits around on the screen".

Yes, a "real" Rowr Doll should support Firefox and adhere to modern standards. (There's a reason the star trek page references IE 5 as a requirement. The page is OLD.) Forgive me if I laugh at the conceit that Safari matters enough for anyone to LOL at phailing on it.

Anyway - It's Rowr(sie)'s choice and she likes Flash. There ya go. It'll be fun to see what she ends up with.

In the meantime, I think I'll do some playing around with the CoH colorfoms idea that popped out of my imagination thanks to this whole business. *heh*

I have to search my old files but I had to do a dressup flash piece for a job a while back - something to do with preparing for a clean room at NASA and putting the correct anti-germ pieces on in the correct order.

It shouldn't be too difficult to change over to a ROWR version if I can find the file

[ QUOTE ]
Groovy. The only real problem I can see is that Rowr's right hand is touching her leg. That'll take some creative coding for outfits that cover her legs, though I suppose you can take the easy way out and attach the hand to the pant leg in that case.



[/ QUOTE ]

The way I would handle that is just have a higher layer with a copy of the hand/forearm. That way, you wouldn't have to cut that shape out of every lower torso piece you add. You just place them on a lower layer than the arm but above the main "doll"

Great work. I like tyhe sweared/claw affect on the chalkboard...nice touch.

[ QUOTE ]


The way I would handle that is just have a higher layer with a copy of the hand/forearm. That way, you wouldn't have to cut that shape out of every lower torso piece you add. You just place them on a lower layer than the arm but above the main "doll"

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah, Rowrsie said she has the Photoshop files with all the layers intact, so it's not really a problem.

[ QUOTE ]
Yes, a "real" Rowr Doll should support Firefox and adhere to modern standards. (There's a reason the star trek page references IE 5 as a requirement. The page is OLD.) Forgive me if I laugh at the conceit that Safari matters enough for anyone to LOL at phailing on it.

[/ QUOTE ]

A real Rowr doll would do all sorts of things in the hands of the pervs here.

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Yes, a "real" Rowr Doll should support Firefox and adhere to modern standards. (There's a reason the star trek page references IE 5 as a requirement. The page is OLD.) Forgive me if I laugh at the conceit that Safari matters enough for anyone to LOL at phailing on it.

[/ QUOTE ]

A real Rowr doll would do all sorts of things in the hands of the pervs here.

[/ QUOTE ]

That sounds almost like a confession. :3c

(This post brought to you by Random Compulsion, Inc. and The Poor Impulse Control Corporation.)

If I had a Real Rowr Doll ...

*trails off*

*goes browsing past realdoll.com to realrowrdoll.com*