WIP - Critiques Please

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This is the pose pose WIP I'm using for Juggertha's art jam. I would appreciate any advice you guys could give me. Much thanks

I personally think the arms should be bigger, but other than that, it look good!

It's very good BAS, two things... the space from the edge of the last stomach muscle to the bottom of his groin should be half again longer than it is. Also yes the forearm on the full arm should be larger, more rounded from the elbow to the wrist, but keep the wrist slender and tapered in, not straight like a pipe, more like a cone. The back forearm could be a pinch bigger, but doesn\t have to be... Also watch that far bent leg, it's connected to the top of his abdomen being so high, should be lower and not connected to the hip so much but below it and then coming out, kind of like a reverse L. Hope that helps. I didn't redraw it for you, cause I didn't want you to just copy my corrections. Plus I know you're capable of fixing it yourself... keep going! It's coming out great.

LJ

Well.....
The Abs are to low and should closer to his peck and be lined more to the left.
The lower half of his left arms need to be slightly larger.
His left(our right) peck needs to be slightly larger so it matches his right peck(our right). Other than that the pose is great and I can't wait to see what you do.

P.S. I hope my critics weren't to critical. O.o

Thanks so much for the feedback guys

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It's very good BAS, two things... the space from the edge of the last stomach muscle to the bottom of his groin should be half again longer than it is. Also yes the forearm on the full arm should be larger, more rounded from the elbow to the wrist, but keep the wrist slender and tapered in, not straight like a pipe, more like a cone. The back forearm could be a pinch bigger, but doesn\t have to be... Also watch that far bent leg, it's connected to the top of his abdomen being so high, should be lower and not connected to the hip so much but below it and then coming out, kind of like a reverse L. Hope that helps. I didn't redraw it for you, cause I didn't want you to just copy my corrections. Plus I know you're capable of fixing it yourself... keep going! It's coming out great.

LJ

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Ah, I didn't think of that w/ the leg. I lowered it down more, and I'll scan it in again... I hope i moved it to the right place :3

The thumb on the far hand (his right hand) is on the wrong side of his hand, (unless somehow he's contorted his forearm a full 180 degrees around in a manner blocked from view by the torso, which is really really hard for a real person to do and isn't a very useful pose for setting up a fighting move).

The musculature on the torso (abs and pecs) are flowing in a very different direction from where the pelvis is oriented. It's almost like his torso was ripped off of the lower half of his body, rotated 90 degrees to face the camera, then reattached. Both halves look good, but they don't fit together.

I would suggest leaving the legs where they are, and redoing the pecs and abs musculature. I would probably try to change the pecs slightly so that the one on the right (his left pec) was depicted as the larger one, and then I'd draw the midsection line that falls vertically down the middle of the pecs and abs, to curve gracefully towards the middle of the pelvis, which with the given legs pose happens to be on the left boundary of the torso as drawn.

Once I have that line drawn, I'd fill in his left abs along the right side of that line, and fill in only the higher abs on the other side of that line, because they're twisting away from the camera and the lower ones are getting blocked from view.

The biggest trick in all of this is getting the right 'graceful line of the middle of pecs and abs' drawn for such a twisting pose. Takes some patience and practice to get the right kind of instinct for it. It can help a lot to just take 10 minutes and try to do that pose in the mirror and see what your own torso is doing to perform that twist.

Anyway, hope that helps.

Thanks for the help man I'm afraid I'm gonna' mess up uberly if I try that on this drawing, but I'll definitely reference it when I do my next one, which I'll try to make a twisting pose

Thanks a ton for taking the time to help me, it's so very much appreciated

Aand, Version 2

Here are the details to Prodigy

Any critiques are greatly appreciated. Thanks

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There are several problems, I'm afraid.

The head is all messed up. You drew it like a perfect oval. Heads have structure, even under masks and what not. The browline juts out and the eye sockets are sunken in. The nose, obviously stucks out and the mouth also juts out a bit. Umm, faces and stuff are complicated to draw. The only suggesting I could really make is get a statue or a model of a head (or a very accomidating friend) and just draw it a lot. A freakin lot, from a lot of angles. It will help you get an idea of the masses and stuff in a head. You can also sketch skulls. The shape of a face is dictated by the bones. It is like clothes on a body. Except instead of cloth, you have blood and gross stuff.

Also, the anatomy in general needs work. Again, this can be achieved by practice and observation. Draw a lot man! And keep posting it, so people can critique and you can learn.

The abs are a bit off. Abs occur in a six pack formation. Each pack is fairly close together to the other ones. Also, there is a bonus two pack (gimmie a break, I don't know what the hell these are called) on top that are smaller and more triangular shaped. Pictures of abs are pretty easy to find around the net. Just make sure your conservative republican dad doesn't barge into your room while you are looking at pictures of muscular and scantily clad men.

The legs are too small. Legs are more than half of a person's height. Legs are also thick, thicker than arms. In fact, thicker than two arms out together in one super arm.

The hands should also be bigger. Open up your and and compare the size to your head. Its pretty damn big. just because they are closed in fists doesn't mean that it defies the conservation of matter. Besides, who wants a hero with girly hands?

The pose seems off to. His left arm (our right) seems flat on the paper. I'm pretty sure that you intended it to be aiming towards us a bit. you can make this distinction fairly easily by adding a curved line that extends partways into the elbow to show the crease from a bent elbow.

his right leg also seems like it is extending towards us, which would be an incredibly hard pose to maintain. We should be seeing the top of his shoe more, not the flat side, since we are looking down at his feet.

You're suffering from floating anatomy syndrome.

First off... even if its a simple line, give the character something to stand on. It's obvious it's a standing pose so don't be afraid to put that ground line in.

You really ought to get check out Andrew Loomis, all his books are online for free since they've been out of print for years (NOTE there is NUDITY in the link, artistic nudity):

The Andrew Loomis Project

Your character has no pelvic structure. Think of the body as generalized shapes. The pelvis is a breadbox, the torso is a thanksgiving day ham....etc. One of the most common misconceptions is that the head is an egg. Not true. Very untrue. The skull itself is spheroid but that's missing the jaw. Here's some good skull pics. Bridgeman and Burne Hogarth are good for head studies:

Human Skull Photo

Illustrated Skull Profile

Lastly, Sarah Simblet is a great resource for artists, if you can find it at a library, check out her anatomy books...

Good luck.

Hey you two! Thank you so much for the really helpful critique. I've tried to fix a couple things like the abs, head shape, and the arm. I've also enlarged the (our) right hand as well as the left. I also added a ground line, as Sayterra suggested

Thanks for the tip, Sayterra. On my next drawing, I'll be sure to add the basic shapes before the drawing. I already do the stick figure skeleton, but hopefully this'll help even more

In case anyone was wondering, this is what I used for my reference. I know that they aren't exact, but I tried to get the same feel.

Tel - Unfortunately, I'm afraid of fixing the leg length as I have a tendency to ruin drawings when I fix them too late into the process :3 But I will remember that; I keep getting the same critique, and I try to pay attention to it, but I guess I need to be doing a better job, heh.


Again, thank you all who have critiqued so much, I really, really appreciate all the work you put in to teaching me this stuff; it means a lot to me Wish me luck!

Thanks for all the help so far everyone.

Here is edit 4 Link (Note: Please full view for the picture)

The abs are kinda' hard to see because the first ones didn't erase well :3 Hope you can make them out

Just following along from the beginning...#4 is much better!

The only real suggestion I have is to adjust the scaling of the hands. His right hand (viewer's left) is much further back, but is drawn at nearly the same size as his left (viewer's right). Either some exaggerated enlargement of his left is needed, or some shrinking of his right. I'm personally more in favor of enlarging his left.