The contest wasnt about matching the charecter screenshot, it was about matching your charecter. Do you expect if the contenstant had sent in a pic of them in hover, they should have been hovering?
I was hovering in mine......just too bad they saw the strings......
Just remember to edit them out of the photo next time.
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The contest wasnt about matching the charecter screenshot, it was about matching your charecter. Do you expect if the contenstant had sent in a pic of them in hover, they should have been hovering?
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if it was about matching the character, please refer to the above mentioned flaws. then, please go take a look at the two examples i give regarding non-flawed images presented, which would include Texstar. his costume matched very very well also.
and, to answer your question: yes, if the screen shot presented that you expected to emulate was your toon in hover, than your shot should also have had you in hover. this can easily be achieved by stepping off a balcony or some similar drop and holding the pose. the effect would be captured as a still image....which is what a picture is.
any other questions?
From the contest page...
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This yearÂ’s categories are:
Best Overall - (Grand Prize Winner - this will not be a winner from any of the other categories).
Best Villain
Best Hero
Best Costume/Public Location Combo
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I'd like to think that a really difficult costume even with flaws scored higher than an easy costume that was exact. Heck, I could create a character wearing jeans and a t-shirt.
so that was the point? difficulty of replication? if that were the case, why didnt more elaborate costumes win, such as Zand or Enchantrix or even Texstar who it appears had to make everything but the boots and hat.
the criteria doesnt match the criteria.
so, again, what makes it a true costume contest?
if anyone is unsure of what i mean, please please please go take a look at all the contestants and winners. mull it over. it was nice of you to quote from the contest page, but all you did was quote categories. you didnt quote criteria.
i do appreciate the input though.
One year, they also had a most humorous category. I thought the categories were what you meant. There was a thread up in General discussing why some won and others didn't. Seems to be a lot of opinions. Anyway, I also found this bit, [ QUOTE ]
All contestants were judged on costume impression, creativity, originality, and difficulty (intricacy of design).
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I'm guessing the judges sat down, pointed out which ones they liked best for each category and then argued for a couple days.
Just seems biased to me is all. Agreeably her costume looked fairly challenging to replicate. but then again, so did so many others. painting your entire body takes an arduous amount of time(i should know considering how much time i dedicate to my halloween costume every year for the neighborhoods entertainment). it just seems to me that, given the quality of so many, the time invested, and the dedication that the winners posted shouldnt have been the winners. MPO alone(i dont believe in humble opinion).
agree/disagree, if the topics already been covered, i believe this thread is at an end. thanx for the comments.
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Just seems biased to me is all. Agreeably her costume looked fairly challenging to replicate. but then again, so did so many others. painting your entire body takes an arduous amount of time(i should know considering how much time i dedicate to my halloween costume every year for the neighborhoods entertainment). it just seems to me that, given the quality of so many, the time invested, and the dedication that the winners posted shouldnt have been the winners. MPO alone(i dont believe in humble opinion).
agree/disagree, if the topics already been covered, i believe this thread is at an end. thanx for the comments.
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Oh, I don't know that the whole of the topic was covered, just the part where someone drooling over one of the entrants wanted to know why she didn't win. 
But, in a way, I do agree with you. Zeus and Avonlea usually enter the costume contests, and they put a lot work into their costumes. This year, Zeus created a plaster form of a body then filled it with some expanding something or other and painted the whole thing to look like a more muscular than he naturally is, super hero guy. He posted pics somewhere.
Avonlea, he's entered as a female character most times, he won last year and the year before.
To tell the truth, I'd be interested in how much work went into each entry... but I find that interesting anyway. Also, I like seeing how others do that sort of thing. My husband and I volunteer at a haunted house every year so I've taken a few cinema make-up and monster effects classes. I like seeing other methods too.
well, to be quite frank, and in keeping with my original notion of trueness to the costume, i dont believe that cookie was overlooked as a possible winner. shes wearing a sash, and her toon does not.
i also did note that people were going off about the carnie. i agree with their assessment and their point of sticking to the rules. otherwise, it wouldnt be a "contest" so much as a general forum of pictures. what kind of contest is unruled, anyway?
clearly there has to be guidelines, rules, and bylaws applied to any contest. how could you possibly decide a winner without personal interpretation coming into it everywhere? and how do you satisfactorily win without know what to expect from the judges?
anyway, again MPO, maybe the selected winners shouldnt have been the winners. there were plenty of more qualified, more creative, more inventive, truer recreations.
i dont get it.
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I think in any contest where it's a judgement of 'looks', it's almost guaranteed that people are not going to agree as to who should or shouldn't win; regardless of the rules and the interpretation of those rules.
but isnt that why there are rules? shouldnt the rules be clearer, more defined? or perhaps the judges decision? instead of just a silly caption ("Gratz on the badge"), maybe a little bit about why this particular costume won that specific category? something that says, 'yes there were others, and maybe you the viewer would have picked them over this, but this is why we picked it'.
again, it just all seems biased to me. when i hold impromptu CCs i always lay out what im looking for: ambiant powers, bios, themes, etc. after the semi-finalists are selected i field questions about "what was wrong with my costume"(usually followed by "no bio"). likewise with the winners. in local, ill give a little bit about what i liked most about the winners overall costume(excellent color-scheme, detailed bio, great ambiant affect, etc.)
theres a lot that goes into judging, admittedly. this contest didnt seem to stick with its own parameters. Nepharim, while perhaps a cheap example, is the most pointed(personally, i would have disqualified her for a daytime screenshot and a nighttime picture, but super hella guts for wearing that outfit to begin with! now THATS Hot!!)
I know what you mean. I mean, not to be sour grapes, but personally I feel that my Enchantrix costume was genuinely better than either of the winners for the "Costume / Public Location Combo" category. I think my costume was more intracate and involved, and that my backdrop is a great match and is really unique. But of course, that's my opinion. It could be that the judges saw things in the winners' costumes that I don't. (Or they didn't see things in my costume that I do!). Or they thought my entry was somehow Photoshopped. Or they didn't like the crossdressing. Or they just like witches and pirates better. Or it could be they just didn't want me to win three years in a row, so I was "disqualified" from the start through no fault of my own. (Which I think is at least partially true.)
But honestly, it's probably best we don't know. The categories and rules seem to be purposefully vague to encourage people to enter and follow the spirit of the contest. (Yes, you have to make your own costume; yes, you have to go out in pubic; no, you can't wear that sweet Hawkman costume you made for the comic convention five years ago....) If you notice, two years ago they had about 150 entries; this year and last year each had about 50. If they gave a list of judging criteria (for example, "...in addition to all matching the costume details, the entry will also be judged on matching the background, pose, lighting...") I think a lot of people--myself included--would say the heck with it. Personally I'd rather see more entries.
Of course, having more vaguely defined criteria puts a lot of faith in the judges and opens the door to a lot of personal bias. And this year quite honestly the judges screwed up, what with Nepharim's costume quite obviously not following the few rules they did set out. (Although hers is certainly one of the best costumes!) I guess we'll see what if anything they do.
But for my own part, I'm okay with the bias...though as you say, I'd definitely love to hear more about WHY they liked a costume. To say a costume "seems like it just walked out of the game" doesn't really say much.
Or maybe explain why a certain costume didn't win... 
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"The Joy of States-mas", #533168
"A Mosaic of Shattered Dreams", #497506 (2011 Players Choice winner!)
"Television Presents: Attack of the Toons!", #373710
"Lightning in a Bottle", #376222
I personally, just think of it as the same as an in-game costume contest. <@_@> It merely transfers to the real world.
Though really in that case Cookie Girl should have won <,<
(What?! >,< <'x'> I keed)
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I personally, just think of it as the same as an in-game costume contest. <@_@> It merely transfers to the real world.
Though really in that case Cookie Girl should have won <,<
(What?! >,< <'x'> I keed)
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Well, sometimes it's about as easy. When I was first showing my costume to a female friend of mine, she suggested that my chest needed to be a little bigger. A little extra padding and it was kinda like nudging the "chest" slider bar to the right!
Story Arcs:
"The Joy of States-mas", #533168
"A Mosaic of Shattered Dreams", #497506 (2011 Players Choice winner!)
"Television Presents: Attack of the Toons!", #373710
"Lightning in a Bottle", #376222
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I personally, just think of it as the same as an in-game costume contest. <@_@> It merely transfers to the real world.
Though really in that case Cookie Girl should have won <,<
(What?! >,< <'x'> I keed)
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Well, sometimes it's about as easy. When I was first showing my costume to a female friend of mine, she suggested that my chest needed to be a little bigger. A little extra padding and it was kinda like nudging the "chest" slider bar to the right!
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Hahaha <,<
I still need to make a male character so I can do the costume contest next year >_<
I'm *way* too fugly to work as any of my female chars <'x'>
A Warrior's Friend: ID 335212 - Help Infernal save Valkyrie from Battle Maiden.
Above Mars Part 1: The Wellington: ID 159769 - Save Mars by destroying a monstrous battleship from the inside!
>.> My DA page, where I attempt to art.
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I personally, just think of it as the same as an in-game costume contest. <@_@> It merely transfers to the real world.
Though really in that case Cookie Girl should have won <,<
(What?! >,< <'x'> I keed)
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Well, sometimes it's about as easy. When I was first showing my costume to a female friend of mine, she suggested that my chest needed to be a little bigger. A little extra padding and it was kinda like nudging the "chest" slider bar to the right!
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Hahaha <,<
I still need to make a male character so I can do the costume contest next year >_<
I'm *way* too fugly to work as any of my female chars <'x'>
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*Imagines Squirrel in Yumii's club costume even though he doesn't know what Squirrel really looks like* Gahahahahaha!!!
ANY costume contest held, where a select group is used to determine the winner, is biased...nature of the beast. everyone has different tastes.
if one wanted to be fair you would have a general vote open to all.
just that simple...imo~
...the sword is truth...
~whiteperegrine~
Don't give them any ideas! then they'll whine about how they aren't popular, or how some had too many friends or lord knows what else people would complain about.
Well they got prizes that's all i can say
..people in general aint happy unless they are complainging about something. the old saying..."a bitchy worker is a happy worker...and when they are silent is when you have to worry"...or something along those lines.
...bottom line...its the forums, someone is always going to complain about something...even me on occasion. again...nature of the beast. forums...love em or leave em...and to be honest would have left a loooooong time ago if it wasnt for the art forums. best place here imo....but then we all have different tastes and expectations when coming to the forums in general.~
...the sword is truth...
~whiteperegrine~
Ok, im confused. What exactly was the point of the costume contest? Yeah yeah yeah...to make a costume and have a contest about who did good and who did great. but what was THE POINT of the contest? what were the deciding factors used and what was the criteria? as i read and understood it, it was about who had the best costume creation as it related to the character base. was i wrong? did i misread?
no, im not upset because i didnt win. i didnt even enter because of the amount of toons i currently host and no desire to try to figure out who has the best costume that id be willing to don and have pictures taken of(blessings to all of you with less than superhero-esque figures who managed to look damn damn damn good in your costumes{Texstar leaps to mind}). im more concerned with the winners and how they related directly to the total overall contestants.
take for example our overall winner, Marisa. a beautiful girl, with a creative looking character. imaginative costume and brillitant color scheme. but, look closely. there are flaws:
Legs in screenshot are crossed opposite than fan art shot.
Coloring in bottoms shows a blend of green and blue, while player costume is only green.
Shades of costume do not match in places with toon.
Screen shot is clearly at day, while fan art is clearly at night.
why am i bothering? whats the point? do i have a grudge to bear against Marisa? no, not at all. i dont even know her. nor do i know someone who received no mention at all, but who met far more closely to their character screeshot, Miss Cholera.
Now, Miss cholera does not have the elaborate color-scheme or shoulder flair, but her costume matches exactly to her screen shot.
So, again, what was the point? Is it a matter of color v. mono-tone? is it a matter of flair v. matter-of-fact? is it comic over creation?
While i am a HUGE fan of the X-Men comics since the mid 70s, i cant help but bear in mind the line from the first X-Men movie, when cyclops asked wolverine if he would prefer blue spandex to the leather outfits. its a matter of practicality. but is THAT the point??
so, i pose the question to you, judges, participants, voters, witnesses: What makes a Costume Contest a "Costume Contest"?