Defendero and Back Alley scrapper are your best that I can tell.
The problem is that your proportions are off. You'll measure everything in 'head length' whatever size the head of your character will determine how to size the rest of your body.
I think men drawn in life-like style are 8 headlengths in general, while women are 7 1/2 or something... can't say for sure since I don't have material in front of me to reference.
Getting things into correct proportions will be a good first step to make your art better.
(I'm in the same stage without references)
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Ok...
Don't take this the wrong way but... Your 12.
Alot of us boarders have jobs, families, and responsiblities to look after before we even begin to think about what we'll do in our very sparse free time, let alone worry about what's happening on the "COH Art Boards."
That said.
You don't suck. Just know that this is a good place to start training not just your artistic muscles, but a good place to start showing your manners and humility as well.
If you want to really become a better artist, keep at it. Regardless of the silence and lack of praise. Make us notice you by showing that you've grown as an ARTIST, not because your feeling lonely or depressed.
If it seems I'm a bit tough on you, it's cause I am.
Coming into a community regardless if it's in real life or on the web and whining and clamoring for attention makes me want to ignore you and not even acknowledge you.
Me 2 bits,
-CJ
Hehe, I've felt the same way at times _BAS_; but as CJ says... people on here only have so much time alot of the time.
What's odd - is that its mostly the art boards where people have alot of RL stuff going on - alot of us only play the game on and off; and so needless to say... our time is limited.
I should say most people's my own time is relatlively free - no major responsibilities.
But myself I'm dealing with lots of RL issues of 'other' varieties and so I only comment when I feel I can make a funny or otherwise be lighthearted, I don't want my overwhelming blahs to ruin anyone's artistic high - it wouldn't be right of me.
The thing is - even some really good work gets totally ignored at times; the art forums are tiny compared to the boards as a whole; limited number of people + limited amount of time = limited response, if any.
Aaron and I both don't get much attention either - and I'm sure there are others that even I'm forgetting... its not that people dislike you or anything. Its just that it takes time to get A) ingratiated to the community, and B) good enough that people will take the time to say anything.
You're not bad - and you'll get better. I think you've got an eye for art, but its a long road. I've been doing this very seriously for over 6 years now; and I'm still not that good, I keep at it, and I try to keep the blahs at bay... just keep at it. Draw, draw, draw draw never ever ever ever stop.
If you feel you need responses desperately, I'm sure there are some youth art boards around, I'm not sure where mind you, but I'm sure they're out there, probably organized by people specifically to help younger artists. Note: I'm not putting empahasis on your age in a negative way; but there's a different kind of attention I think you need from what you may get here as most of us are significantly older. Its literally the old 'age gap' problem - the lives we lead every day are significantly different and that causes some difficulty because you think "No one is responding, I must suck and they hate me" everyone else looks and thinks "he's getting better" <clicks on> without responding. That doesn't mean they don't like it; it just means it still needs practice before people are going to take time to respond.
Anyways - keep at it; oh - and a huge thing - look at your Views as opposed to Replies.
Yes - replies are nice; lovely lovely things... but your Views tells you how many people bothered to look in the first place. That should tell you that while they may not say it yet - people are watching.
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You're getting better already, the key is to keep going at it. Draw draw draw draw draw and you can put anything in your mind onto paper.
I had sort of the same blues awhile back, but I kept at it and persevered and realized, the art isn't about others, the art is about me.
Keep going, and you'll alway have the potential to be a great artist. It might not seem like it at first, but after awhile, you'll see the progress. It helps to write the date you finish a piece, so you can see this progress easily.
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Ok...
Don't take this the wrong way but... Your 12.
Alot of us boarders have jobs, families, and responsiblities to look after before we even begin to think about what we'll do in our very sparse free time, let alone worry about what's happening on the "COH Art Boards."
That said.
You don't suck. Just know that this is a good place to start training not just your artistic muscles, but a good place to start showing your manners and humility as well.
If you want to really become a better artist, keep at it. Regardless of the silence and lack of praise. Make us notice you by showing that you've grown as an ARTIST, not because your feeling lonely or depressed.
If it seems I'm a bit tough on you, it's cause I am.
Coming into a community regardless if it's in real life or on the web and whining and clamoring for attention makes me want to ignore you and not even acknowledge you.
Me 2 bits,
-CJ
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Ty!
I especially like the last bit...reminded me that most of you guys are adults and I need to remember that before I post stuff (D'oh!) I apologise for the above post..Im sorry. Thank you guys, again and have a good one!
_BAS_
EDIT: Thread title changed because of my ignorance at the time. Sorry, again.
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Really keep working at it, and the first time one of the established really good people comments on you, gives you advice, or gives you praise, it will make you feel very good.
Btw real life people are 6 heads comic people are 8 plus heads.
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Btw real life people are 6 heads comic people are 8 plus heads.
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TY! I will keep that in mind.
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Ok
first comments about your pictures: They are a good start. Defendro would be your best among them.
Nice work with the cammo on BAS
In general you work on proportions.
Eyes: look at eyes you will notice that they are not little ovals but slightly assymetrical. Also part of the Iris is usually hidden by the eye lid when you show the whole iris it convey a strong emotion of either surprise, anger or fear.
About the feeling of being ignored:
Some of the artists here are very accomplished ( Graver, DJ, Gill Bates, Juggertha, etc...) when they post someting they get many reactions that are basically :"wow this is soooo good" The number of actual critics is relatively low. While you are good for a 12 year old expecting many comment of amazement may be a bit much to ask. I know you would like feedback to improve but giving such feedback can be difficult. Not every one feels qualified to critique and frankly many poster who ask for feedback do not accept negative comments very well.
Keep practicing. Keep posting. Have fun.
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P.S. : this was typed while other post were added and kind of is redundant at this point ...sorry
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Np! I'm not really looking for people saying it is good, but I see your point...Eventually, I too, get tired of saying "Looks great!" because I don't think I could give any feedback that would help. Thank you for suggestion of eyes, I think I know what you mean...Will work on it!
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...Well, it seems that every time I post artwork on the boards, less and less people comment about it...Even if they say before I post it "Can't wait to see it!" I know they do stink, but I LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE LOVE feedback and critiques to improve!
Drawings
EDIT: Edited to make it sound less whiney(Can't think of the word to use)?
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