Can Role Playing Go Too Far?

I'm curious...how many of you would think my alt strength/invulnerability tanker, Mistress Domina, goes too far?

I've made macros that cause her to verbally abuse villians when she uses her punching powers.

i.e.
"You've been bad"
"Pathetic worm!"
"Kneel!"
"Yes! Worship me..."
"Beg for mercy!"

p.s. She-Hulk (at least the first 10 issues) was really good and funny. Think of it kinda like Howard the Duck...a side-thing that one tends to ignore when considering comic book continuity.

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*shudders*

Hey, to each his own, man, but RPers in a game like this freak me out a bit. And what is it with the word "shall"? They pepper that bad boy in there like they bought it in bulk. When was the last time you used "shall" in normal conversation?

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My friends and I do use "shall" in normal conversation... Not ALL the time, but at least one every hour or so... Why do you think that "shall" is not use anymore? Pay more atention, people do use it.

And to the OP, like with anything else in this game: if you weren't confortable with those guys roleplaying that way you should have either say something (They may have tone it down for you a little bit) or quit the team, is not like they were doing it in public (Broadcast/Request)

Just my 2 inf.

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*shudders*

Hey, to each his own, man, but RPers in a game like this freak me out a bit. And what is it with the word "shall"? They pepper that bad boy in there like they bought it in bulk. When was the last time you used "shall" in normal conversation?

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Interesting. So what does the letter R stand for in "MMORPG" in the universe you apparently inhabit?

To the original poster: Remember, roleplaying is a form of acting. What they were doing can therefore best be described as over-acting. And pretty poorly, at that.

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Many people ignore the RP and consider them Massive Multi-player Online Games.


Not all people are comfortable trying to Roleplay so just act like themself.

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I'm curious...how many of you would think my alt strength/invulnerability tanker, Mistress Domina, goes too far?

I've made macros that cause her to verbally abuse villians when she uses her punching powers.

i.e.
"You've been bad"
"Pathetic worm!"
"Kneel!"
"Yes! Worship me..."
"Beg for mercy!"

p.s. She-Hulk (at least the first 10 issues) was really good and funny. Think of it kinda like Howard the Duck...a side-thing that one tends to ignore when considering comic book continuity.

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Wyrmling's binds:

Provoke: Pay attention to the kaiju hottie!
Blazing Aura: You need to be able to stand the heat to dance with me.
Combustion: This kaiju is the bomb!
Consume: Mmmm, nice and hot.
Nothing: Hah! Your Kaiju-fu is not strong! (said in game upon beating one of the larger normal bosses, brother told me I should make it a bind, so I did)
Jump Kick: Kaiju Kick!
Breath of Fire: Do you want some hot tongue action, $target?

note, I have unbound versions of them too, though I tend to use the bound provoke...it keeps the party aware that I'm using it and not just doing nothing.

Edit: For those who don't know what a kaiju is, the best known kaiju is Godzilla. Wyrmling is a geneticist kaiju fan who was accidentally turned into a dragon-lady.

Today.

You are correct, since normal conversation in the USA appears to be:
"You won't believe what **** happen'd to me today! It was like, well, you know, un-***king real man! I was like, kicking some a** and then this **** walked up to me, you know, her **** all in my face...." or a favorite line from our leader-in-chief: "Fool me once, shame on...shame on you, Fool me again, well, you can't get fooled again." or "Demotracacity".I guess we don't have normal conversations, thank the Goddess we aren't normal.

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The goth, well, I've known goth type people who were really full of life, energetic and enthusiastic. The whole depressing bit would be stereotype (as in, many goths may be like that, even most, but not all).

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I wouldn't call that goth, it's more like uber depressive emo. I' like half goth/half punk (as the people put me) and I am not like that. See I don't mind role playing, but when you start to stereotype different life styles, it really isn't cool. Not all goth people enjoy death, not all macho men with guns are always cussing and fighting, maybe they want to stay at home and read. I love role playing SOO much, but the game gets ruined when a bunch of ignoranuses decided to be "cool" and pull crap like that. If your gonna RP, stay on the lines of your character, but DONT over do it.

Like my character is an ice blaster. He is like 19 and he lost his arm in the big Rikti Massacre (the one before the beta ended) He once ran with the Freakshow and did Dyne and was put in jail for a while. Now I don't run around going "WHOOOOOOOO DRUGS, THIEVARY (is that a word?) DESTRUCTION!!!!" I personally think that is so annoying. It's called courtesy

I have two characters that do annoying stuff in game. One is an imp, and he'll actually (waiting till everyone is nearly ready, never when the party is totally beat up) run out ahead of schedule and gather up some bad guys to bring back to the party with the battlecry "Starting TROUBLE!!"

If you scold him or threaten him he immediately snaps back to "servant imp" mode and begins praising you and calling you master.

If people aren't that into it, then I tone it way down. Most times people think it's a hoot.

Picker will charge right into the middle of enemies and maybe get himself killed. He's a berzerker. It's what he does. If he dies, no big, it's his debt, not yours. But it can be annoying.

If anyone TALKS to him about a plan, though, he'll usually follow it. I hate it when people are [censored] and say "well I'm RPing a dick" and then don't allow for the character to learn and grow.

Other than that, all my military guys are "yes sir" all the time. And my supernaturals guys are all very nice to everyone, and still all have their own personalities without getting it all over everyone. It isn't that hard to not be offensive.

It's too far when it makes you uncomfortable, you ask them to tone it down in a reasonable manner, and they refuse. Vice versa.

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You are correct, since normal conversation in the USA appears to be:
"You won't believe what **** happen'd to me today! It was like, well, you know, un-***king real man! I was like, kicking some a** and then this **** walked up to me, you know, her **** all in my face...." or a favorite line from our leader-in-chief: "Fool me once, shame on...shame on you, Fool me again, well, you can't get fooled again." or "Demotracacity".I guess we don't have normal conversations, thank the Goddess we aren't normal.

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Ah, you're a Pagan. I bet you do use "shall" quite a bit.

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Ah, you're a Pagan. I bet you do use "shall" quite a bit.

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Any time you say "I'll" that's "shall"

Profession: English Teacher

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Any time you say "I'll" that's "shall"

Profession: English Teacher

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Since we hijacked this thread already, let me ask this: Ins't "shall" more like "will/should"? Instead of "I will"?

I ask because as far as I now one goes by saying: "I shall have to go" or "What shall I do?", instead of "Shall have to go".

Or is exactly that what you mean back there?

Anyways, I usually use "shall" meaning "should", since the knowledge of when to use is as "will" still eludes me.

I'm really asking here, not being a smart aleck (English is my second lenguage)...

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The official rule is you should use shall any time you are talking in first person (I or we), otherwise you should use will. In modern language, shall is going the way of the dodo.

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Modern AMERICAN language, to be specific.

Other things that are going away:

most of the relative pronouns

This is the man whom you stole it from?

This is the man that you stole it from?

This is the car which you were talking about?

This is the car that you were talking about?

This is the place where we ate?

This is the place that we ate at?

Adverbs:

Let me do this real quick. (I myself am a frequent abouser of that one)

Some uses of to: (it's becoming a word form instead)

I gotta go.

Whom:

The vast majority of the time, people forget to use this instead of who when they're referring to a person that is operating as a grammatical object rather than a subject.


However. we have some things that stubbornly refuse to die.

Such as:

the medieval spelling system: knight....."gh" is a spelling structure for a sound that hasn't been in the English language since before Shakespeare.

We have 13 vowels in the English language. For these thirteen vowels we have 5 symbols (unless you include y, in which case we have 6). The consonants are in a less serious position and I don't remember the skewed numbers off the top of my head, but still, sheesh when are we going to sit down and fix our alphabet so that people don't have a mental hernia trying to figure out our spelling rules and all the exceptions.

Also, we still have that bloody useless c that French fopped onto us. It doesn't do anything you can't do with a k or an s. The only thing close is when you put it together with a h to get the ch sound.

As to adding new stuff, one of English's greatest strengths is the vast number of synonyms and antonyms we have for different words. It allows a very impressive ability to shade meanings in our speech. And we are gathering new words everyday. If there's one thing English is good about, that is utilizing the languages of other cultures to change and build our own. (probably comes from being on a little rock in the middle of nowhere that got invaded six or seven times before the Normans finally took over)

Still, if I learned nothing else from my linguistics classes, it's that:

Shift happens.

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Any time you say "I'll" that's "shall"

Profession: English Teacher

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Since we hijacked this thread already, let me ask this: Ins't "shall" more like "will/should"? Instead of "I will"?

I ask because as far as I now one goes by saying: "I shall have to go" or "What shall I do?", instead of "Shall have to go".

Or is exactly that what you mean back there?

Anyways, I usually use "shall" meaning "should", since the knowledge of when to use is as "will" still eludes me.

I'm really asking here, not being a smart aleck (English is my second lenguage)...

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Shall is the first person modal, it's past tense is should.

Will is for other people, it's past tense is would.

EDIT: However, as noted by another person. Shall is disappearing and Will is replacing it.

If you use the past tense version of these it usually means that you are saying that you understand something needs to be done by you, but you probably won't do it.

I shall do my homework. (a definite, it IS going to happen)

I should do my homework. (probably won't happen, you're starting to rationalize getting out of it)

It's like can and could.

If some says: "We can do that." they are seriously considering it. If they say "We could do that." They've already dismissed it.

Using the past tense in situations were you are discussing options puts things into the hypothetical realm.

Shall/Should
Will/Would
Can/Could

i can see why RPers would be so "exclusive" with their RPing. especially the good ones. i mean once you find someone that you KNOW is a genuine RPer with whom you can just dive in to character without worrying about being wrench back out without warning or provocation, the tendency is probably to do just that and ignore any distractions. people may ignore RPers but they ignore you too.

my characer is kind of abbrasive. impatient is probably a better word. if he's leading a group he might get in the face of someone who refuses to follow orders. But the way a leader would do it. He'd pull them aside first and only public berate them if they put others lives in danger. or he might become impatient with an indesicive leader and try to take over. firs he might give blunt suggestions when the leader hesitates. then he'll start to give commands in the place of the leader. what i'm hoping is that this does piss off the leader givingus both a chance to do some good RPing. see if your surrounded by good RPers then your not offending them just their characters. the guy i chew out may reacte the way his character would without fear of looking like a chumpin real life. the weak willed leader is free to take up my challenge or back down whatever his character might do. Im only ever going to do what i think ron Eagle might do. it sucks having to stop and thwart every... single... mugging you see no matter the level of the mob but that's eagle.

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There was a guy named Tsoo Sorcerer in perez park, and his battle cry was "chikety china!" or some crap like that, and he kept saying it over and over.

I took offense.. what an absolute idiot.

Normally I don't mind but this guy was an ignoramus.

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LOL, Well, atleast I did something with my copy of an ingame mob: Below in my Signature.

I Roleplay all the time... most people dont know it. Or most people just wont team with me because of what I roleplay.

"Shall we?"

"Marshall"

Hehe.

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The official rule is you should use shall any time you are talking in first person (I or we), otherwise you should use will. In modern language, shall is going the way of the dodo.

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Modern AMERICAN language, to be specific.

Other things that are going away:

most of the relative pronouns

This is the man whom you stole it from?

This is the man that you stole it from?

This is the car which you were talking about?

This is the car that you were talking about?

This is the place where we ate?

This is the place that we ate at?

Adverbs:

Let me do this real quick. (I myself am a frequent abouser of that one)

Some uses of to: (it's becoming a word form instead)

I gotta go.

Whom:

The vast majority of the time, people forget to use this instead of who when they're referring to a person that is operating as a grammatical object rather than a subject.


However. we have some things that stubbornly refuse to die.

Such as:

the medieval spelling system: knight....."gh" is a spelling structure for a sound that hasn't been in the English language since before Shakespeare.

We have 13 vowels in the English language. For these thirteen vowels we have 5 symbols (unless you include y, in which case we have 6). The consonants are in a less serious position and I don't remember the skewed numbers off the top of my head, but still, sheesh when are we going to sit down and fix our alphabet so that people don't have a mental hernia trying to figure out our spelling rules and all the exceptions.

Also, we still have that bloody useless c that French fopped onto us. It doesn't do anything you can't do with a k or an s. The only thing close is when you put it together with a h to get the ch sound.

As to adding new stuff, one of English's greatest strengths is the vast number of synonyms and antonyms we have for different words. It allows a very impressive ability to shade meanings in our speech. And we are gathering new words everyday. If there's one thing English is good about, that is utilizing the languages of other cultures to change and build our own. (probably comes from being on a little rock in the middle of nowhere that got invaded six or seven times before the Normans finally took over)

Still, if I learned nothing else from my linguistics classes, it's that:

Shift happens.

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Wow...I'm sitting in school reading this and thinking to myself..."Hmm self why the hell did I start playing video games?
Oh yea it was because I hate school". Keep your education to yerselves!!

*Waves fist*

Amen brotha....or sista.....or.....both? Bah forget it.
You can not understand how bad this game is for my health, not just like losing sleep, but other things. Observe. In this scene I join a TF

Super Shard: Ok lets do it, uhm I like rping, does anyone else here RP?
Dumb [censored] 1: RP? What is that?
Dumb [censored] 2: I think he means role play.

At this time, I have had a heartattack. It pains me when people don't know what RP is but I get mad cause I am sure everyone knows what MMORPG is.

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At this time, I have had a heartattack. It pains me when people don't know what RP is but I get mad cause I am sure everyone knows what MMORPG is.

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Well, not everyone knows the term "MMORPG"

It's more of a MMOG now, for most servers. It's like Diablo.

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Shall is the first person modal, it's past tense is should.

Will is for other people, it's past tense is would.


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point of clarification: it's with an apostrophe (this mark: ' ) is a contraction of 'it is.' the proper way of indicating a possessive of it would be 'its,' as in:

Shall is the first-person modal. Its past tense...

(i also corrected for a comma splice. i'm a hardcore nerd, you see.)
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It's like can and could.


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the above is the grammarically correct usage of 'it's.'

yes, i am fully aware that i'm not capitalizing correctly. if you look, you'll notice i'm not capitalizing at all, excepting quotations. it's an act of deliberate laziness on my part, rather than a mistake i'm not aware i'm making.

i just wanted to clarify for esl folks. now back to the topic of this thread.

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Yes it can go too far..especially when the game is rated teen.


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i feel compelled to point out that the esrb rating tag explicitly states, 'Game experience may change during online play.' while the terms of service and the license agreement do make certain limitations on what content is technically allowed, the esrb rating as is takes into consideration the possibility of sexually suggestive, violent, or otherwise, shall we say, potentially disturbing language. i'll agree that it would be inappropriate to give a detailed blow-by-blow of sexual acts in public channels (and it may actually be illegal under some state's laws about transmission of obscene materials - for more on this, look up a book called 'Sex, Laws and Cyberspace,' can't recall the author atm), but short of that i wouldn't call it 'going too far.' those who pay attention to the esrb ratings will notice this disclaimer and be aware that sort of thing might occur.

profanity is a very thorny issue because it's extremely relative. for example, my older brother swears reflexively. he quite literally will not say a sentence without including some sort of profanity. consequentially, when he goes off on a cursing fit, everyone rolls their eyes and tunes him out. when i use strong language, people actually are shocked, because i hardly ever feel the urge to swear. the point is, words which may seem harsh to my ears are stripped of all emphatic value in his perception. my general attitude toward profanity, then, is that others have every right to use it as gratuitously as they see fit, but also that i have a right to avoid it just as much as i care to. sometimes this means leaving groups (though i avoid pickup groups most of the time anyway, because people are idiots), and sometimes it means ignoring people or shutting off broadcast, but i don't fault people for bad language. (i do fault them for being morons, and morons are a lot more likely than others to use invective, but that's coincidental.) it is actually feasible to roleplay a foulmouthed person, just as it is possible in this game to use d00dspeak in a roleplaying context (look, gripe all you like, but the developers themselves included missions against freakshow with names like TeH R0xX0r). i try not to be too critical of people, because it is entirely possible they just don't roleplay well. some players lack that certain degree of sophistication with language and creativity that marks a good roleplayer, but that doesn't mean they should be shunned or ignored.
/soapbox

p.s. incidentally, racism (as well as all other forms of bigotry) is explicitly and specifically prohibited by the euala.

It is obvious what one should do if another individual attempts to berate you for your ways. For example, I simply bring to me multiple Clockwork minions, courtesy of the King, and watch as they take care of the abrasive threat.

I have recieved many strange questions as well, when I am about in Paragon, the question I get the most is whether I possess the capability for sexual reproduction, which shows the intelligence of the one asking the question, considering I am Clockwork in origin and possess no biology. I find the best thing to do is to ignore them or thrash them, although as of late the latter has drawn the attention of the Freedom Corps to me more than once.

Despite these instances, I see no reason not to continue. How do I feel about cussing? I consider those cussing of limited intelligence, because they possess no other means of insulting, or even putting up a reasonable retort, to the arguements they wish to start with me. I simply tell them that they have few cognitive abilities, which of course makes them cuss even more, it is most interesting.

I suppose I possess an advantage over others since I am a machine under the influence of my King, because I possess no feelings or morals that would allow me to be offended by these denizen heroes.

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Shall is the first person modal, it's past tense is should.

Will is for other people, it's past tense is would.


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point of clarification: it's with an apostrophe (this mark: ' ) is a contraction of 'it is.' the proper way of indicating a possessive of it would be 'its,' as in:

Shall is the first-person modal. Its past tense...

(i also corrected for a comma splice. i'm a hardcore nerd, you see.)
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It's like can and could.


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the above is the grammarically correct usage of 'it's.'

yes, i am fully aware that i'm not capitalizing correctly. if you look, you'll notice i'm not capitalizing at all, excepting quotations. it's an act of deliberate laziness on my part, rather than a mistake i'm not aware i'm making.

i just wanted to clarify for esl folks. now back to the topic of this thread.


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Actually, since I'm an ESL teacher myself, I should have caught that.

Bleh, another example of my students' errors invading my English.

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yes, i am fully aware that i'm not capitalizing correctly.

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Apparently, for some people, Shift does not happen...