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Quote:If you think that you are convincing anyone by not referencing where you got your statistics from because you are:Originally Posted by je_saist
Edited for clarity.
Okay, obviously, if I'm posting in this thread, I'm here to rain on your little parade.
The fact is, from the time that PvP was added to the game in May 2005's Issue Number 4: Colosseum, to the so called "PvP Disaster" that was Issue 13 in December 2008, the Player-Versus-Player population never rose above single digit percentages.
One of the developers went so far as to once say that the Old-Hollows map, the pre-issue 12 version, averaged more player traffic... that is the number of unique players entering the zone... for each server... than all of the PvP open-area zones and arenas combined.
The simple facts are these: The PvP player population in City of Heroes was never large enough to justify the resources that were spent to develop Issue 4. The PvP player population has never been a large, or profitable, part of the player-base. NCSoft nor Paragon Studios have any financial incentive to focus on PvP development for this game, City Of Heroes.
Now, as far as I am aware, NCSoft's official policy is that they would like to drive PvP-oriented gamers to their Aion and Guild Wars franchises, which have been successful in attracting a wide-range of Player-versus-Player enthusiasts.
My suspicion is that unless NCSoft has a fundamental shift in policy; for example an overwhelming financial incentive; to fund the development of player-versus-player content for City of Heroes, it is very likely that Player-versus-player development is effectively halted.
Now, I get what you are trying to accomplish here.
If you think that you are going to be successful in rallying other Player-versus-Player enthusiasts against Matt "Positron" Miller for a deliberate out-of-context quote that is framed to make a non-existent player faction seem more important than it was ever was...
You are not.
A.) Completely full of it.
B.) A lonely woman that has 24 cats to feed & 4 litterboxes to change (gross).
C.) All of the above
You are not. -
ir0x0r, ever the altruist.
I love all the server loyalists that want to see PvP "return" to their home server. -
Quote:By that logic, your uber DM/Shield build is an indication of you taking PvE "way too serious" then, right?Originally Posted by ShadowWings
Or those who take PVP way too serious.
'lolihaveubarbuild'
Good lord, the attitude that you run around with in regards to PvP is ridiculously irritating. -
You really don't need a specific Scrapper set, so long as it's slotted in some fashion to PvP properly. Judgment and Reactive will certainly help narrow the gap, but even then, all you really need is the Eye of the Magus/Demonic Accolade or the Barrier Destiny power.
The significant buff to your defense will give you enough time to kill all of his pets. Chances are he doesn't have the mental fortitude to continue re-summoning and re-buffing. Focus on his pets and eventually you're going to hit so hard through bodyguard he won't know what happened. -
Quote:Unfortunately, fixing Ice blast will be an open admittance by the devs that i13 PvP changes were a pile of ****. They'd have to start doing a lot of similar changes across the board, I'd imagine.Originally Posted by Xanatos
Ice is broken. The T3 blast does less than the T1 blast.
Psi is fine. (Psine?)
That's just something I don't see happening. -
Quote:I heard Porch beat a Rad/Rad once in a duel with his Fire/EM blaster.Originally Posted by Xanatos
Didn't you run a supergroup that I beat with Inertial and two other RPers?
Sup bro
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Quote:Elated was here a few weeks ago, he promptly left.Originally Posted by Grae Knight
Porch! You back too?
Now if Elated returns all will be right in the world.
He has actual competitive games to play. -
Quote:I ran PvP server events on Champion long before the CAPE did, and with that in mind, and having participated in several server leagues and Test ladders, I can tell you right now that the amount of new player influx has generally been the same. "Elite PvPers" dominating be damned.Originally Posted by Shaytanah
But if we follow the old road of extreme elites dominating then no one new wants to keep PvPing.
The "elite" PvPers always called for newer players to join the ranks and learn to play, and despite general ribbing and **** talk, were conducive to such an environment.
If the attitude from newer players is that the so called "skilled" can't join their club and PvP either.
Is... is that a bell in the distance I hear?
Oh no, that's just hypocrisy. -
Quote:Yeah, that was the point I was trying to make up above.Originally Posted by Dinah Might
Unfortunately will not be the last.
Virtue forum will be half Rookery threads, and half "ARE YOU LEAVING VIRTUE 4EVER?!?!" -
Quote:This is certainly valid, and 99% of the time, any PvPer claiming that they are good generally isn't. So you're right.Originally Posted by Silas
The skill and talking about skill thing is interesting however. I don't know about pvp, but its certainly the case in pve that the more someone talks about how good they are, the more likely it is they're not actually very good. Might not be the case in pvp I suppose, due to it being much more competitive by its nature.
The best pve players I know/knew didn't spend a lot of time (if any) talking about how good they were. They were too busy being good
But, at the very least, you can be sure that the cranky old-timers that are still running around waving canes at the youngsters generally at least know how to handle whatever it is that they're driving. -
Quote:This is like, the third thread of this nature on this server alone.Originally Posted by The_Larker
Well considering I don't go to other server forums to read about what's going on Virtue, I guess as many as it takes.
I'll hazard a guess and say that other folks probably think the same way in this regard. -
Quote:More of a fat-top girl, I'd say.Originally Posted by Grae Knight
Xan was secretedly a fat-bottom girl.
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Quote:Okay, clearly you don't understand the fact that you quoted what I originally posted.Originally Posted by Braije
You're just being combative, I encounter people like you all of the time.
So, how I know you posted while I was posting. Simple: Sinny is my g/f and that monitor is a foot to my right and mentioned that you had already posted while I was in the process.
Not so mind boggling now, is it?
Therefore, you not only misread my original post (which was 2 lines long), but you quoted, agreed & elaborated on it as well, while completely deviating from my statement completely.
You're not very smart. -
Quote:How are you posting while I was posting if you QUOTED my original statement?Originally Posted by Braije
Actually, I was posting while you were posting, so that was in response to the first two posts.
And if you consider that lecturing, then you come from a defensive standpoint which is no way to approach a conversation or debate.
As it is, that is your opinion and you're entitled to such. As I am to mine and thank you.
Are you a master of space time manipulation?
Mind-boggling. -
Quote:While the term "elite" is definitely laughable itself as a word, and I'll agree with Scribe in the overall usage of said term, especially considering the comparison of this game's competitive population to... say, WoW; you are certainly wrong about the PvP population not being sizeable enough.Originally Posted by Silas
This is a pretty good point. Besides, I don't think that even before the pvp changes that the pvp population was big enough for there to be any real 'elite'.
Prior to the changes, there was a clear distinction between a normal player and good player. Going beyond that, there was a definite distinction between "good" and "highly-skilled".
Generally, anyone arguing against this reality is bitter about being excluded from the list of so called "highly-skilled" players. Sorry, but that's just the cold hard reality of it. Practically every person that I see harping on about players being overrated, or the skill brackets being nothing but a group of friends fraternizing and back-patting in order to appear to be better than they are, it's generally the same individuals that were notable benchwarmers, farm targets, or players who (while good) could not quite cut it.
That's not me being an elitist, as I've worked with a lot of really terrible/new players in order to answer their questions and build them up in order to compete, that's just reality. -
Quote:Respect, sir. Respect.Originally Posted by MrLiberty
I like to think of myself as a tastey left over you can enjoy at like 3 AM after going out to eat. Pretty good, for whats left.
Wuz just messing, most of my active pve toons are on Virtue so I'd be the last person who could talk. RP or not, doesn't change the fact you're still probably the best rad/caller I ever teamed with, even if it was just mostly for KB. -
Quote:In your first response to me, you claim that they hopefully give us that (that being: Cross-Server PvP) on the VIP server, which is a clear illustration that you did not fully read my two sentence post.Originally Posted by Braije
Because from those I've talked to, they think it's the best place to gather for a true VIP zone experience. Especially considering that transfer tokens will come monthly, it's logical rather than spending money out of pocket. Not to mention you're asking more of the dev's to thread all the servers than just utilize a server that is already in the works.
You need to think about this from more parameters than just your own. Consider it from a 'code' standpoint, then you're only asking for more delay. Cross-server, that's ridiculous! That's like asking for cross-server incarnate trials because some don't have the population to run one at certain hours of the day/night. It just makes good business sense.
Why are you lecturing me on looking at things from a "coding" standpoint? I understand the resources that it would take, and the overall likelihood that Cross-Server PvP would ever happen (See: it won't).
Do yourself a favor and reread my first post. Actually, here, I'll requote it for you.
Are you done?Quote:Originally Posted by vindizzLeGoing forward, the likelihood that you are going to see positive improvements to the PvP system in this game are next-to-none.
Cross-Server PvP is a nice dream to have, but that's about it. -
Quote:Are you just trying to increase your post count?Originally Posted by Braije
Hopefully in that dream, they give us that on the VIP server. At the very least, it's the best solution. Rather than debating this person from this server is better than so and so. We would have our own playground.
I'm willing to bet those who are already here would be there instantly. And for those attracted by CoH Freedom looking for that element, would be some of the first ppl to 'UP' to get access!
In this gaming era it is what ppl will pay for more than anything, IMHO.
The VIP server is one server specifically designed to house the VIP Playerbase without distraction from F2P customers.
How exactly does Cross-Server PvP become an exclusive function of VIP server only?
Cross-Server PvP is at it sounds; it is (or could be) a system that allows players from any server to access arena matches and engage in them.
Moving your PvP playerbase to the VIP server is a terrible idea, and does not further the potential for introducing Cross-Server PvP, either.
So no, it is not the best solution. It isn't even a solution at all. -
Going forward, the likelihood that you are going to see positive improvements to the PvP system in this game are next-to-none.
Cross-Server PvP is a nice dream to have, but that's about it. -
Quote:If there were to be a designated PvP server after F2P went live, it really shouldn't be Champion either.Originally Posted by Sinny
Sorry as a champ player and pvp'er I refuse to leave champ and the pvp community I love, to run and hide on a server I don't care about.
Loathe as I am to say it, Freedom has the greatest claim to stake on being the PvP server, especially with it having a higher population than both Champion & Victory.
Your server loyalty aside, Champion should not be where the PvPers congregate. And this is coming from someone whose home server is Champion. -
After all these years, Xanatoast finally scaled back the slider on his signature character so that he doesn't look like a lopsided piece of tofu in his costume.
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Quote:Of course you realize, this means war.Originally Posted by FeyDuex
No Vin, that just means you have to have battles to the death to decide who gets to stay! *goes to make popcorn*
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The real question here is: How many more of these exact same threads will we see on every server forum before F2P actually hits?
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Quote:MC Refractor & MC Xanatos online battle rap 2v2 champions.Originally Posted by Xanatos
Yes. Check the Velocity page.
In a desperate bid to sign a record deal, in 2012, MC Xanatos will become...A JEDI!