slainsteel

Not every team does the fastest TF's for every single one.
The times are still really impressive, some of them just plain crazy.

Brilliant runs!

A few questions for your group about some of your TF's.

• First, did you use any temps? Of course even with all temps in the game, these are still amazing times, but was curious.
• Second, on the STF time, what was the team makeup? Again, any temps used?
• Also, what is the fastest MoSTF you've run (with settings enabled that is).

Your LGTF times are so out of sync with the rest; with the crazy times you have, I am sure your team can do LGTF sub 20 easily.

As a reference point, our group runs some of the fastest TF's on Virtue (note, not _the_ fastest, but some of the fastest), these are our corresponding times,

Tabulating versus your times, TF your time: our time,

• Apex 15m20s: 19m
• ITF 13m58s: 14m (only once, next was 17m)
• KahnTF 15m52s: 22m
• LGTF 23m31s: 20m
• STF 22m38s: 29m
• Tin Mage (missing your time): 23m

Nice work, really nice.

Let me clarify this again - from my 'perspective', I was 'told' that the team was half speed club and the rest their friends. I also don't 'personally' know everyone on Speed Club at the moment because we've been having some heavy recruiting by several mods and my play time is limited since I am out of the country.

So, if I am told that half the team is clubbers and friends, I assume it is a club TF; if it wasn't, then I apologize, I didn't mean to usurp credit.

Do also keep in mind, Speed Club isn't just 'my' channel nor is any representation of it 'me'. So when I claimed that it was a speed club TF, I did not intend to take credit for _myself_; I honestly believed it was a team run by some of our newer members, and as I mentioned in the post itself, I loved the team.

If I offended anyone on the team, I apologize. Take this as my retraction of the posted time; that puts our next best time at 30'ish minutes.


I haven't 'run' a club ITF in a very long time except a few PuG's I picked up to get the nictus component for a character or two or I've joined other people's ITF's. So um, feel free to not be a fan, considering I don't really know what you're talking about here

The Club isn't just 'me'; I don't ever lead or form LRSF's, only join them when channel members form it. JD, who is an op on our channel invited me to the TF and it was my understanding that 4 were channel members, the rest were friends of those 4?

*shrug* I guess he didn't mention that some of those 'friends' were a bit, well, sensitive?

The 600m is a joke compared to the time to get the threads; so basically, I agree

Yeah another person from that CoP just joined our channel; you have no idea how many tells I've gotten saying, "You heard about the 7m CoP? We *have* to beat that!" :P


Was that with or without temps though? Rularuu is a bit of a monster to take down in those 1 minute windows. Of course with nukes and shivans, if people can do a Nuke Hami, a ~7-10m CoP should be quite doable.

True, true - so I usually have time only for 2-3 TF's on weekdays, so on those days, I try to maximize rewards versus time Plus since I am addicted to SHO's, at least one of them ends up being an STF.

On weekends we actually do a full set of 50's back to back at least once, sometimes twice or thrice - order being, ITF, LGTF, STF, STF (for other reward), Khan, Apex, Tin.

All other TF's we blaze through, but Tin for some reason, takes us longer. I have yet to run one under 20m. It's 3 kill-all objectives usually turns out to be a blocker.

I remember those runs; run by Amena. I believe?

I can never forget them, I had been playing the game about a whole month by then and was fascinated by STF's; considering how everyone told me they were the hardest TF in the game, etc, etc.

Oh yeah, I got better.

I thought our STF was more impressive. The ITF run though awesome, I've heard of similar from reliable people.

The STF time, other than 'claims' of 15m STF runs :P I haven't really heard from anyone in my circle of ever being on one faster or even at that - especially considering we had 0 deaths on that run.

Of course, all times involve no temp powers other than what the TF grants for objectives and the jetpack for easier movement.

The rest are okay'ish, I am hoping to improve on all of them by a couple minutes or more; particularly that LGTF - with enough luck, we could shave of probably 2-4 minutes on that. Hostage placement really can change the time by 5 minutes either way.

Khan, our channel really doesn't care about too much. Apex we can do faster, but bleh, we just run it with the characters we wouldn't ever bring to another speed TF - just 'cause you can get away with it on Apex. Tin, again, not too many of us are keen on since you can do an Apex faster and get the same rewards.

Good players are just a basic requirement Even the best leader can't do good time if the team keeps dying on him. Additionally it is really important that he has people he can rely on for key objectives. Without that there is no point even thinking about speeding.

Now to get really fast, a well coordinated team is key. Most of our TF's, there really aren't any instructions given; people just know what to do (STF being an exception, since the way we run it, certain details change quite a bit based on team make-up).

I don't believe that I claimed we're pro's 'because' we speed TF's; I just made the claim that we are.

What confuses me is, what exactly makes trolls so sure that we aren't? Have any of them actually run with us?

Current fastest times for our channel that I know of,

ITF: 14m (this run was a one time thing, our next fastest is 17m)
LGTF: 20m
Khan: 22m (we don't run this one a lot)
STF: 29m (our bread and butter TF)
Apex: 19m
Tin: 23m

I swear, on STF's when Aeon is talking, it sometimes feels like it's already happening

Take out the monologues and we could do an STF in 15 minutes instead of the 30 we usually take.

I'd appreciate it if you could ask members of the channels with IO'ed out toons on Virtue if they'd be interested in Speed Club in Virtue?

We're a private channel but I believe we're at approximately 50'ish members - of course, every single member we get more counts. In light of the upcoming incarnate trials, I'd be more comfortable if our number was over 200.

I am against going public simply because I'd like to guarantee everyone in the channel that they'll be teaming with great players to pro's - we can make sure that is the case in a private channel; public channel, not so much

Actually, I call it 'inefficient'; considering it doesn't always work - I've seen him jump and 1 shot so many hover tanks, it's not even funny.

Of course, necessity is another thing; I've tanked him on a blaster that way too - if possible, illusion tanking or stoney/elec/dark tanking (with a well built and experienced tank) is just way more reliable.

Kill-all versus speed is really kind of a long discussion; we guys prefer speed, as in get a TF done in the shortest possible time.

I speed TF's, should stick to that