sevenshade

this is not meant to be a necro, but asking what types of enhancments i should slot kat and will. i don't have access to anything but dual origons and the first single type enhancments you can get near very low levels.

so if you told me to use this IO and this SO i might be confused as to what to add to each skill? like accuracy, damage, health ,recharge, health etc

thanks in advance for those that can help me
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its been since last november that i last played CoH. so some things need to be refreshed.

all those who knew about me asking 10000 questions about more builds than liked, should be relieved I'm only going to ask about my katana/willpower scrapper.

that is , i plan on sticking to my scrapper untill max level and all missions and everything have been experianced. so i know how everything works.

instead of hopping from character to character.

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but my main thing, i have mids. i know it does not show enhancements that won't fit said power. so that kinda narrows it down a little.

but on the skills that need a certain amount of acc or dmg to balance it right, i come up a bit short. so if you can tell me what all effects each skill needs, then i can figure out dual origins, single origins and invention enhancments. so use the base enhancements like accuarcy is need or damage, or recharge reduction, or health etc.

so heres a link to the build i have found by mojo, credit is to him. I'm just linking from mids so people might be able to help me better.

my scrapper is level 24-25
Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.942
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Katana
Secondary Power Set: Willpower
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Gambler's Cut -- Empty(A), Empty(3), Empty(3), Empty(5), Empty(5), Empty(7)
Level 1: High Pain Tolerance -- Empty(A), Empty(7), Empty(9), Empty(9), Empty(11), Empty(11)
Level 2: Flashing Steel -- Empty(A), Empty(13), Empty(13), Empty(15), Empty(15), Empty(17)
Level 4: Fast Healing -- Empty(A), Empty(17), Empty(19)
Level 6: Build Up -- Empty(A), Empty(19), Empty(21)
Level 8: Divine Avalanche -- Empty(A), Empty(21), Empty(23), Empty(23), Empty(25), Empty(25)
Level 10: Indomitable Will -- Empty(A), Empty(27), Empty(27), Empty(29)
Level 12: Combat Jumping -- Empty(A), Empty(29)
Level 14: Super Jump -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Rise to the Challenge -- Empty(A), Empty(31), Empty(31), Empty(31)
Level 18: The Lotus Drops -- Empty(A), Empty(33), Empty(33), Empty(33), Empty(34), Empty(34)
Level 20: Quick Recovery -- Empty(A), Empty(34), Empty(36), Empty(46)
Level 22: Mind Over Body -- Empty(A), Empty(36), Empty(36), Empty(37)
Level 24: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Soaring Dragon -- Empty(A), Empty(37), Empty(37), Empty(39), Empty(39), Empty(39)
Level 28: Heightened Senses -- Empty(A), Empty(40), Empty(40), Empty(40)
Level 30: Health -- Empty(A), Empty(42), Empty(42)
Level 32: Golden Dragonfly -- Empty(A), Empty(42), Empty(43), Empty(43), Empty(43), Empty(45)
Level 35: Stamina -- Empty(A), Empty(45), Empty(45), Empty(46)
Level 38: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Tough -- Empty(A), Empty(46), Empty(48), Empty(48)
Level 44: Weave -- Empty(A), Empty(48), Empty(50), Empty(50)
Level 47: [Empty]
Level 49: [Empty]
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 24: LEGACY BUILD
Level 4: Ninja Run

https://docs.google.com/document/edi...thkey=CLyAu_MC
https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B94...thkey=COWN7tYE

im sorry, ive spend the last 15 minutes trying to post small sections at a time, part of the dxdiag has symbols that the forum does not like.

i don't know how else to do this but than having the logs in a zipped folder on mega upload

I seem to be having a memory leak issue with going rogue.
when the game is going it starts off using 500-600mb of ram and steadily increases in excess of 1gig or more of ram

i will link my dxdiag and hijack this files.

had to zip them and upload to megaupload because it gave me errors pasting them into code wraps.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NE0MG26Q

I don't see how I'm missing out on the game, I read every part of the story arcs that the npc's give me, I don't power level, I only team if I'm having a huge problem beating a mission.

and farming for me, i would farm after all the story arcs are said and done. and after ive done all the raids a few times so i get more of the end game story. Still don't understand how that's missing out on the game.

well i expect things to get more exciting when i get golden dragonfly.

never said i was mad i only had 2-4 attacks to use, you misunderstood that. I meant that using only 2-4 attacks on any single mob is what is making me kinda bored with my main. i was expecting to have more than 2 to 4 viable attacks for mobs. Don't get me wrong, that might change around higher levels, i was just giving my reasons for wanting to try a new build, generally one good for farming.

and i was using d2 as a reference to describe how i love to farm things, had no intention of linking that thought to damage or kills.

Yeah i have a Katanna/willpower at level 20, but at the moment he is kinda boring to play. That's one reason i wanted to find a build i could get up to 50 with that would also be great at farming, that way i don't have to level a second character up to 50 if i want to farm so i get inf for alts etc.

The main reason though is the fun i have when i farm in rpgs, and if i had a solid farming build, I'm sure i would not be as bored.

Katanna/willpower as it stands i use gamblers cut followed by divine avalanch if i go single target, if i have multiple surrounding me, its gamblers cut, divine avalanch then flashing steel and lotus drops, so right now its pretty much 2 to 4 skills used unless i feel like using build up on tougher mobs.

don't judge someone by what they have fun doing, unless its morally wrong. and right now i don't see farming as morally wrong D:

its just a second layer of fun i will add after hitting 50, and i mainly solo arcs so i can revel in the story. but sometimes i feel like joining a party too.

but there's no reason to get uptight over my playstyle

I enjoy farming, that is my first reason. One thing i did plenty of in diablo 2 was farming with an MF sorc. Influence is just a secondary reward.

and i don't see how some of you are getting upset over something as simple as this.
if this thread upsets you, then by all means don't pay attention to it.

ok i found a fire/kin farming build, how would i slot this with training or so/do's? I'm asking this because every build i find is slotted with io's and i don't know where to go to find out how to slot this before i can start using things besides just plain 2 accuracy, 2 damage, 2 hold etc for the slotting.


Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.707
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Kinetics
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Psionic Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(3), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(3), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5), Dmg-I(5)
Level 1: Transfusion -- Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx(A), Dct'dW-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/Rchg(7), Dct'dW-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(9), Dct'dW-Heal(9), Acc-I(11)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(11), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(17), Posi-Dmg/Rng(31), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(34), GravAnch-Hold%(34)
Level 4: Siphon Power -- Range-I(A)
Level 6: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34), RechRdx-I(37), RechRdx-I(40), RechRdx-I(40), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 8: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 10: Siphon Speed -- TmpRdns-Acc/Slow(A), TmpRdns-Dmg/Slow(43), TmpRdns-Acc/EndRdx(43), TmpRdns-Rng/Slow(43), TmpRdns-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(46), RechRdx-I(46)
Level 12: Flashfire -- Stpfy-Acc/Rchg(A), Stpfy-EndRdx/Stun(13), Stpfy-Acc/Stun/Rchg(13), Stpfy-Acc/EndRdx(15), Stpfy-Stun/Rng(15), Rope-Acc/Stun/Rchg(17)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Health -- Heal-I(A)
Level 18: Cinders -- BasGaze-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BasGaze-Acc/Rchg(19), BasGaze-Rchg/Hold(19), BasGaze-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(31)
Level 20: Stamina -- P'Shift-End%(A), P'Shift-EndMod/Acc(21), P'Shift-EndMod(21)
Level 22: Hot Feet -- Oblit-Dmg(A), Oblit-Acc/Rchg(23), Oblit-Dmg/Rchg(23), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Oblit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Tough -- ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx(A), ImpSkn-ResDam/Rchg(27), ImpSkn-EndRdx/Rchg(27), ImpSkn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(29), ImpSkn-Status(31)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- Ksmt-ToHit+(A), Krma-ResKB(29)
Level 30: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- ExRmnt-Acc/Rchg(A), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg(33), ExRmnt-Dmg/EndRdx(33), ExRmnt-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33)
Level 35: Transference -- Efficacy-EndMod(A), Efficacy-EndMod/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-Acc/Rchg(36), Efficacy-EndMod/Acc(37), Efficacy-EndMod/EndRdx(37)
Level 38: Fulcrum Shift -- Acc-I(A), Acc-I(39), RechRdx-I(39), RechRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Indomitable Will -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(42), RechRdx-I(46), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 44: Mind Over Body -- Aegis-Psi/Status(A), Aegis-ResDam(45), Aegis-ResDam/EndRdx(45), S'fstPrt-ResKB(45)
Level 47: Psionic Tornado -- Posi-Acc/Dmg(A), Posi-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Posi-Dmg/Rchg(48), Posi-Dmg/Rng(48), Posi-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(50), FrcFbk-Rechg%(50)
Level 49: Speed Boost -- Run-I(A)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment
Level 6: Ninja Run

so what archetype is fire/kin ?

Ive looked around and found a site on the net that shows slotting basics for fire melee, but i can't find any on secondary shield. I'm talking about basics in example as " 2 accuracy 2 damage 2 end redux"

if anyone knows how to slot normal training and DO's on shield secondary, let me know. I don't need to know how to slot end game enhancments yet, so please don't suggest slotting for those yet because my soon to be made fire/shield scrapper will take a while to get there

So with the new issue and expansion, would electric/shield scrapper still be the best thing to use for farming recipes and valueable SO's and IO recipes?

also, where do you guys farm?

Well since I'm not so good at making builds yet, I have decided to ask to see if anyone has any fire/ice builds made for the secondary ice, at keeping the player alive.

I don't know if fire/ice blasters were changed with issue 18 or not, so i might as well ask about that as well.

I was told ice patch is the main secondary skill that keeps you alive.

also i welcome strategic conversation here.

OK i modified the build more. So let me know if anything looks better put in another place. This is meant to be a survivability leveling build, so i did not add enhancements yet. Ill wait to do that for when i make a end game build.

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.707
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Magic Blaster
Primary Power Set: Fire Blast
Secondary Power Set: Ice Manipulation
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Teleportation
Ancillary Pool: Flame Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Fire Blast -- Empty(A), Empty(3), Empty(5), Empty(7), Empty(19), Empty(37)
Level 1: Chilblain -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Fire Ball -- Empty(A), Empty(3), Empty(5), Empty(7), Empty(19), Empty(37)
Level 4: Frozen Fists -- Empty(A)
Level 6: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Rain of Fire -- Empty(A), Empty(9), Empty(9), Empty(25), Empty(36)
Level 10: Fire Breath -- Empty(A), Empty(11), Empty(11), Empty(25), Empty(36)
Level 12: Chilling Embrace -- Empty(A), Empty(13), Empty(13), Empty(27), Empty(40)
Level 14: Aim -- Empty(A), Empty(15), Empty(15)
Level 16: Build Up -- Empty(A), Empty(17), Empty(17)
Level 18: Health -- Empty(A), Empty(23)
Level 20: Ice Patch -- Empty(A), Empty(21), Empty(21), Empty(27), Empty(31)
Level 22: Stamina -- Empty(A), Empty(23), Empty(46)
Level 24: Air Superiority -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Fly -- Empty(A)
Level 28: Blaze -- Empty(A), Empty(29), Empty(29), Empty(33), Empty(36)
Level 30: Blazing Bolt -- Empty(A), Empty(31), Empty(31), Empty(34), Empty(37), Empty(43)
Level 32: Inferno -- Empty(A), Empty(33), Empty(33), Empty(34), Empty(34), Empty(43)
Level 35: Recall Friend -- Empty(A), Empty(40)
Level 38: Frozen Aura -- Empty(A), Empty(39), Empty(39), Empty(39), Empty(40)
Level 41: Bonfire -- Empty(A), Empty(42), Empty(42), Empty(42), Empty(43)
Level 44: Fire Shield -- Empty(A), Empty(45), Empty(45), Empty(45), Empty(46), Empty(46)
Level 47: Rise of the Phoenix -- Empty(A), Empty(48), Empty(48), Empty(48)
Level 49: Melt Armor -- Empty(A), Empty(50), Empty(50), Empty(50)
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Defiance
Level 6: Ninja Run

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ok i found a sonic/mental build, was not in the guides section, but i found it on the forums through google.
http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showt...sonic%2Fmental

my biggest problem with some of these builds is they only show level 50 enhancements, so that always leaves me wondering how i should place enhancements.

Well solo when i can't find a team, but that is obvious.
as for enhancments simple training enhancments before level 12, then at 12 i want to start using Dual origins. then when I'm able to use Single origins i want to use them at that point. then when i get closer to 50 i plan on frankenslotting. I plan on my origin being magic.

hope that helps

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well i found a fire/fire guide here in the guides section http://boards.cityofheroes.com/showthread.php?t=125895
It only shows slotting for late game enhacments.

so i would like to know what to use in my skill slots for the fire/fire build?
example, would i want accuracyx2 damage x3 endurance reductionx1 on most of my attacks?
not sure how i would add enhancments early game or what to shoot for

So i hear blasters are walking corpses in a sense they die easier than other classes.

So I'm looking for a blaster class that can dish out pain, but still have a bit of survivability.

ive looked over the primaries and everything looks fun in it's own way.
I'm guessing swapping out travel pools for health and stamina would keep a blaster alive longer? or could i squish in fly with health and stamina? or would that be impossible?

i should have said in the begining that i did not make the build myself, i got it from the guides section. i just wanted to know about the power pools. I see how it makes sense to take stamina now.

i found a plant/thermal build as shown here

does this build really need the power pools as shown? would i be botching the build if i took the power pools for flight instead of the health and stamina?

Level 1: Strangler
Level 1: Warmth
Level 2: thermal shield
Level 4: cauterize
Level 6: Roots
Level 8: Seeds of Confusion
Level 10: plasmas shield
Level 12: combat jump
Level 14: super jump
Level 16: swift
Level 18: health
Level 20: stamina
Level 22: power of the phoenix
Level 24: forge
Level 26: carrion creepers
Level 28: vines
Level 30: thaw
Level 32: Fly Trap
Level 35: Heat exhaustion
Level 38: melt armor
Level 41: fire ball
Level 44: fire blast
Level 47: Spirit Tree
Level 49: Recall Friend
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty (A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty (A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty (A)
Level 1: Containment

So i thought an electric/shield scrapper would be fun. I found a guide for it, but it only shows how to enhance with io's etc.

I'm looking for advice on how to level this beast and what to slot with bought level 5-50 training enhancements untill i get to 50 and buy ios and such for the build i found.