minago

I had my rep off because well i don't know it bothered me seeing red below my name because in general i joke alot in real life and i get along with basically everyone.

but you know what you bring up some good points most of the red i had gotten was because i had spoken my mind and i don't hold back...i have my own opinion on things .

i'm not gonna do some song and dance to fit into the "mainstream view" that's silly

i don't kiss behind in real life, i ain't gonna do it on a game forum that i pay a sub for.

so basically i'm gonna show my rep instead of hiding it and that's that ,i ain't gonna hide the fact i have my own opinion .

edit: my sub runs out tomorrow anyway so it really doesn't matter .

edit: far as the rep system it reminds me of all those sad clowns over on the champions online/startrek online boards how they acted with there horde mentality ...and where did it get them?

the same thing here.

the usual suspects posting non stop with a shrinking community.

that's the thing that kinda irked me the video is kinda hard to follow like if you didn't know what they where talking about you wouldn't have a clue.

like i sat down and rewatched it ...the stuff they talk about is all over the place .

0:00 -0:25
positron:
talks about growing up loving the tvshows and comicbooks that revolved around superheroes basically likes the genre.

-which is good , if we where discussing city of heroes but what thoughts went into going rouge?-

0:25 -0:30
talks about being involved with the game and the ability to create own stories and characters

-needs elaboration-


0:30-0:30
"what going rouge represents is something we always wanted and where actually able to realize that now"

-huh?
are you saying that some new was involved so now you can make the game or you where just making the game and figured out why you where doing it in the first place?-


it kinda jumps around like that throughout the video to that point i don't know what they are talking about ....it's like that with everybody except for

sexy jay
even though it was humorous it got the point across of customization that you can make just about anything even a lumberjack.

babs
gives good info about the game far as new powersets ,new zones ,new animations but you don't know who is talking

like babs starts talking at 2:55 -at 3:06 pops up on screen disappears 3:10 so it's like you have to catch whats he is saying quickly in a window of 15seconds while being distracted by images of the game.

ghost falcon he's gives really good concise info but he talks so low and monotone you really have to concentrate and listen hard to follow what he is saying to make that worse his part's are broken up through out the video when it should have been in the first part because he gives really good info about the game that sets a baseline for what going rouge is about.

it's just hard to follow and i don't know how a new person would interpret it,in all honesty if i didn't know what going rouge was before hand i wouldn't have a clue what i just watched.

just the obscure subject of involving a lumberjack and pancakes out of the blue was funny and to be honest sexy jay was the highlight to the video .

warwitch was um whats the word meh "going rogue is going to be the next level after the level next, but before after the next level! "blink"

positron seemed genuine in what he was talking about but also seemed like "ok ,is this about over with?"

babs seemed awkward and maybe nervous "i like animation" um yeah "crickets fade to black."

ghost falcon umm... monotone comes to mind?

i agree.

but i'm not sure how ncsoft would actually profit other than box sales and costume packs from what i could tell paragon/ncsoft wouldn't have to worry about server maintenance and operation since onlive would be taking care of that.

and more than likely the regular ncsoft servers wouldn't be accessible since onlive would be providing the space

but if anything it would be pure profit with each costume pack server transfer and so forth.

onlive already has 15$ a month fee for the server use ..also if people don't want to pay the 15$.

i think i read somewhere they would have a rental service available where you could just rent a game and not pay the 15$.

if anything ncsoft could charge what they would receive minus the cost the server operation what they make 5$ profit for every each 15$?

or some such i don't know ,i'm not in accounting.

i want to say it was a well written piece and it caught my eye , but i would like to discuss how it come across from a different perspective.



this set's the tone we are taking a trip of apathy threw the looking glass in context of the
story teller.

"experience my world"


basically someone was banned for a flame war that was caused from someone trying to change the subject.

which leads too

that statement alone your putting people into a category segregating thoughts ideas and experiences and turning a blind eye just marking it off as "damn gamers"

this trend proceeds with each different forum visit

"Suggestions & Ideas. They're all alike."
"Probably jerkhacked and duped the rares. They're all alike."
"All he does is farm for Purples. They're all alike."

with each experience setting and tone and or topic discussed ,the world seems angst and basically that everyone is the same . "they're all alike"

and in doing so ,this spoils the overall context of the piece of describing your point of view your putting labels on people with the statement below .

the pointing of fingers "you" .. "you did this" ..."you are the reason i am the way i am."

did anyone catch it ?

i did.

"i am a victim for allowing myself to bare witness too these falsehoods"

by judging people your setting a standard from what is right and wrong for what people can say .

see what i was saying about dictatorship ?

when voice's fall on deaf ears and are cast into segregation then there is no community except for the one.

judging people putting standards on topics pointing fingers segregation, that's all following that dictatorship manifesto.

in other words.
"there is no, I in team"

it's a very good thought provoking post actually i would recommend fleshing it out just abit and giving some thought about writing a short story and getting it published ,you have the knack.

also to the original poster sorry for the mini discussion, i blame myself ,insomnia and a rather interesting take on the human condition .

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edit: after having read the links

crikey i'm such a tool lol

i got snookerd by my own ignorance

i just read those links lol.

i should have read that before going into analyze mode ...well played .

now i'm gonna go read "the hackers manefesto" well after i take a nap !

bookmarking pages thanks

have you already watched "the lost room" or put it in your Q or not interested?

just curious.

actually no we are not we are "diverse" and by the way ,that's what makes a community great.

when you judge people that is actually the antithesis for a community and instead a dictatorship

"A government controlled by one person or a small group of people. In this form of government the power rests with one person. Such power is often obtained forcibly. A dictator usually takes away much of people's freedom."

when you judge and decide what's right or wrong using labels like troll/fanboy basically closing the mouths of others then community cease's too exist.

edit:

what's funny is everyone is getting along and being creative and we "all" are poking fun at what has gotten people kicked off forums or stirred great debates.

using terms people would be considered trolling and flaming and everyone is getting along not taking it personally and going with it and having dare i say fun?..........that's what i like to see.

i have "your so cool" burned into my subconsciousness due to that movie "in a good way"

edit:

"Amid the chaos of that day when all l could hear was the thunder of gunshots and all l could smell was the violence in the air, l look back and am amazed that my thoughts were so clear and true.

That three words went through my mind endlessly.

Repeating themselves like a broken record. You're so cool. You're so cool. You're so cool."

swoon such romance

my recommendation isn't a movie sadly but its miniseries ,ya know one of those three night event things?

but i'm not sure on how many discs it is.

anyway the name of it is

The lost room (2006)

synopsis

After Detective Joe Miller finds a key that opens a mysterious motel room, he discovers it's a portal to an alternate universe when his young daughter Anna disappears inside.

Desperate to retrieve the key and save her, Miller comes up against a host of bizarre characters who also want access to the room. Julianna Margulies, Kevin Pollak, Dennis Christopher and Margaret Cho co-star in this eerie fantasy.


i saw it one time and rather enjoyed .

the lost room

i did not write for the above series ,but i recommend it.

but i would like to say thanks to the mentions of a couple of films i did write

i kinda looked at the for awhile perplexed and i couldn't figure out what wasn't quite right with that statement.

then it came to me.

you know when i first got this game , i read the forums off and on for about a year before even making an forum account and when i did ...i posted a thread discussing pvp well next thing i know, i got all sorts of very rude people posting all sorts of none sense.

come to find out it was pwnz at the time i didn't know what pwnz was because i was new too posting on the forums ,but i was a really put off by the experience to the point i didn't want nothing to do with the forums after that i had managed to get in the "threads to watch" which the whole point was too mess with people.

nothing really was done to them until boards where changed and they got stuck in forums games.

but anyway my point is and the reason i brought up "tunnel vision" is that's what these threads suffer from you have the same exact people posting in basically the same exact threads over and over again ...and nothing changes its like this "i'm a vet" "i don't agree" "jake emmert" "gone to the americans" "fruit salad" "first after red name" "dooooomm"

it's even going on in this thread.

"oh someone's monotone complaining QQ doom"

stuff like drives people off that adversely also pay the server bills and the dev's salary and also factors in any potential new players .

in away i think that's why the game has gotten stale because the devs have been listening to the tunnel vision crowd and not to the overall majority hopefully things will turn around i know i already canceled my sub "sorry animated cat tails " just isn't my thing .

but like usual if they come out with the next issue, i'll give coh another spin .


but i don't expect much in the way of change,just tunnel vision.

you shouldn't feel uncomfortable with just being yourself ,especially on a video game forum that everyone pays too and has a privilege to post on and be apart of.

to be honest, i am not sure why such a thing even exists, it a feature that puzzles me along with the post count number and join date.

i would just disable it,at least that's what all the cool kids do .

thanks for the synopsis ,but even still i don't get it .. why go threw great lengths to set up these elaborate bunkers.

from what i take of the dharma iniative far as there origins is this


ok so they go threw these greats length building all these bunkers that involve all different research things

ok,ok so some professor goes somewhere and says "look i would like some grant money" so i can build a bunker on an island that revolves around a social experiment that is basically screwing with someone and they don't know it and to top it off a complete waist of time.

so basically station 5 and some of the others are a big waist of time and so i am to believe that somebody in there right mind funded these people so they can go ship out building supplys hire contractors to build a bunker ship people out to a tropical island to have people write diary's so they can put them in a tube that leads to no where and this is gonna benefit mankind some how...leading to an Utopian society ?

what is this, i don't even.

the weird thing is "the others" where already on the island when the initiative arrived to build this mess and yet they didn't help the people they decided to study the people?

whats there to study just help the people out obviously they are stranded people from wrecks ...why else would they have regular clothes and aren't all "lord of the flys" crazy tribal going on .

"the others" spoke English too ...

so yeah they are building all this mess with grant money but don't help a brother out ....fail too notice the smoke monster that kills people or the glowing fountain that makes people immortal.

yeah i don't get it.

but thanks anyway

edit:
it just seems to me they added that subplot to threw people off and get them interested in "what new mysterious station would be showcased next" instead of the actual plot of what was going on like in hindsight if you cut out all the dharma stuff from the show it doesn't fit and isn't needed .

like it's just a ruse.

mmm hmm yup hmm ok ah ha brilliant ! .......oh wait no i don't care about the above .

what i really would like to know did they ever explain the "Dharma initiative" stuff i remember reading a long time ago all the complex little plot elements involving that "research station " plotline involving "gasp" we found the chicken room!!!

and we need to press a button every 24hours or we blow up!!! ... ,oh my it's a shame ....then next week "oh my goodness" we found a "squirrel room" and we need to write notes about our feelings and thoughts and put them in this mail slot which leads to a big pile of trash outside.


so yeah did they ever explain that dharma initiative mess ,i'm looking but i don't see anything.

from what i'm reading in the wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DHARMA_Initiative

it seems like one of those conveniently placed subplots in mystery's that in hindsight added nothing and was only implemented to throw the reader off and was not relevant to the story in the least .

i hope i'm reading that wrong and the "dharma initiative" was explained and was relevant to this purgatory well of furies business.

when i say it was my "opinion" i meant the definition of "opinion" below

An opinion is a subjective statement or thought about an issue or topic, and is the result of emotion or interpretation of facts.

An opinion may be supported by an argument, although people may draw opposing opinions from the same set of facts.

Opinions rarely change without new arguments being presented.

However, it can be reasoned that one opinion is better supported by the facts than another by analyzing the supporting arguments.

An opinion may be the result of a person's perspective, understanding, particular feelings, beliefs, and desires. In casual use, the term opinion may refer to unsubstantiated information, in contrast to knowledge and fact-based beliefs.


when i said i respected your opinion it was exactly just that , i didn't say stuff like this


i never said i wanted certain things... i was giving reasons why i had lost interest in the game when the issues involving AE and the pvp where implemented remember back in this thread? ....and personally i don't care if you agree or not because it is my prerogative.

as it was your prerogative to like the issues ...did i give you a hard time about it?

no.

but anyway, i will not be posting on the forums anymore .

because people assume things are quick too judge/dismiss and in general think closed minded.
they get in a routine and stick with one train of logic ...sometimes they may switch a track here and there but more than likely people are mostly the same "set in there ways".

some people may say "no i'm a noble tomato, i'm not like that!" but no people are in general island among themselves to a certain extent as the saying goes "birds of a feather flock together" that's why you get clicks like in high school people that have certain personalty traits usually stick together ...flock together.

it's nothing wrong with it ...that's just the way life is.

just look back and read the comments you can kinda see the different personalty types in the thread its kinda funny how people are and how much people supposedly change that regardless they stay reasonably the same.

also

ROWROWRAWROOOOR woof ROoWROoWRAWROOOOR mew ROWRAWROOOOER WROOOOR ROW WRAWROOOOR ROWRA WRAWROOOOR RO
"SNORT"

that's a good one

i was gonna come up with a joke involving atheism ,but i couldn't come up with anything.