black_barrier

Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer

Just did a quick run with herostats and ended up with 585k/minute (still going up) before the mission ended.

Originally Posted by Silas

You'd have an edge in people not thinking you're full of it if you didn't post laughable claims and then prove yourself wrong with your own numbers.

Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer

I still lol at the fact that you think farming is a competition. You do know farming isn't the only way to generate inf, right?

Originally Posted by SoulTouch

Well you are always angry at me because............

Originally Posted by SoulTouch

barrier is getting angry.

Originally Posted by SoulTouch

here is a perfect example of someone who thrives on self-flattery.
i'd love to show you on my brute how broke bile spray is but its on a 72 hour ban again, so i'd have to hop on a friends brute, so no, the ignore thing.. didn't work.

Here is a perfect example of barrier trying to get his feet wet into something to do with pve and then gets wrekt by himself, and then brings pvp into it because its about the only thing he doesnt suck at.

for the record this guy went emo about me asking him why he had incinerate on his domi, and thus /ignored me ingame. GG.

also spam moar RSF recruits on AC please.

Originally Posted by SoulTouch

I dont have enough nerd in me to go download herostats and be a cool kid and check my numbers, to then find that I have them wrong(you) and that as I said - dont deny it - that footstomp is better then BL, and also cool kid care to come to AE and see bilespray in broke form?

Originally Posted by SoulTouch

you said your ball lightning does more damage then foot stomp arn't those numbers clearly proving you wrong?

Also I don't know what map you are farming, but its bad, good brutes use broke ambush AE farms who spam bilespray leik lulz. Thats if they arn't failing at farming for purples in normal maps. Both ways stop thinking your the best at everything, you're not.

Originally Posted by SoulTouch

Also you claim you try to maximize your inf per hour, considering you're someone who admited he has a cheap build, you are certainly not maximizing your inf per hour, maximized build + higher level then downs skill > your bad farming.

Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer

Farming is a competition? hmm...

Originally Posted by Silas

Okay so putting together a rough Mids build with the numbers you say you've got:

With Rage, Fury at 80, 83% dam enh% and a Geddon proc, Mids is averaging Footstomp to 286. Hitting the target cap every time means you're doing 2,860 damage every 10 seconds.

Same enhancement values as Stomp and a Posi proc average Ball Lightning out to 194.4 At the target cap, thats 3,110.4 damage every 22 seconds.

Super rough math follows (there is no Arcanatime here, son):

Footstomp damage over recharge = 2860/10 = 286 rough DPS

Ball Lightning damage over recharge = 3110/15 = 207 rough DPS.

The math is very rough (no Arcanatime, no cast times, Hasten not in the mix) but the fact remains: Even if you hit the target cap every single time, Footstomp still does more damage over time.

In non SUPAR SEKRIT AE FARMZOR situations, Footstomp totally blows Ball Lightning or any other patron AoE out of the water. Higher base damage, large radius, faster recharge.

Unless you're fighting something that is weak to energy damage and resistant to smashing damage. Like Freak Tanks, I guess. But choosing to farm something resistant to your primary and highest source of damage for something weak to your secondary and lower source of damage is pretty silly.

Also while I'm more than willing to farm and get some numbers for you, inf/min doesn't mean dick as far as proving your Ball Lightning does more damage than your Footstomp. Run Herostats, that'll show you how much damage your powers are doing.

Edit: you're probably fighting Freakshow, which would account for Ball Lightning doing more damage. And if that is the case, that speaks more to the nature of your farm than the relative power of Ball Lightning and Footstomp.

I'm skeptical of BL still doing more damage than Footstomp even in that situation because of its DoT nature even if you throw it out before Stomp most of the tics won't land because stuff will have died. I've found I get much more damage out of Dark Obliteration than I did with BL because while it has lower damage, the damage is all dealt up front whereas I was only getting the full benefit of BLs higher damage on bosses.

Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer

You seem to be boasting about your farming abilities, but then not willing to say what you farm? Okay. I may have to agree with Soul then about using an exploitive AE mission. I would gladly post my numbers if I knew what you were using to make a fair comparison.

Originally Posted by Dahjee

lol YOU can't Max. Attack suppression differs, and knowing what you've been hit by goes a long way in knowing how to make it work. You, like many are specculating again on what you think you know before you've taken the time to see if you can do it.

BTW why do people think I RP? I don't




1 TP'er in an arena match with the rest including teammates having ss/sj is quite silly. I wish you'd think bigger than that. 8 TP/flyers vs 8 SS/SJ'ers... given even skill SS/SJ would get out manuvered all day long. Since most won't be able to even wrap their heads around the concept... keep in mind that the TP pool offers ways to bring your friends and enemies to you. Be creative with your thinking. Also TP > webnade... just so ya know.

Lastly. I don't arena much so it's almost pointless to make references to what I say and how it applies itself in the little controlled box you call PvP.

Originally Posted by Dahjee

i'm a zone noub, therefore i talk empty.

Originally Posted by SoulTouch

he thinks hes the only one in this game that farms broke AE farms, let him, he's a special one.

he still hasn't figured out how to ignore on the forums, he manages fine ingame.

Originally Posted by fiery-enforcer

i'm curious, what are you farming?

Originally Posted by SmegHead

That is sig worthy... for the lolz.

Originally Posted by SoulTouch

srs?

Originally Posted by Dahjee

Um X, words can have more than one meaning. "Good" and "Successful" in PvP can mean more than just ONE thing... I also know that being informed is not the same as being correct. If your point is to say that everyone but me is correct about their opinion well then ok. You have a right to believe such and I won't try to stop you.

I apologize for what you felt were inconsistencies and contradictions in my posts... I can't recall any but I've posted quite a bit so perhaps... I'm happy to clear up anything you may have misunderstood. Which it seems, you obviously have.