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As always: 6 pm BST OR CET????
Cunundrum might show up. Unless Sarcasticon has dinged 45 by then.

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My brain dies on Time Zones so assemble 6pm my time atm so BST (I think )

Cheers,

White

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And about PA drop teams you can send a tell to me on @Archy or Generalissimo 2 on @Gen 2

We will be on toons called Arch Nemesis and Righteous Bob (haha...thats actually pretty funny names when put against each other )

And pls pls pls read the guide.

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Edited main post with those details and yes please read the guide it really does help

Cheers,

White

Hamidon you have been evicted please leave the Hive!!

Yup we are at it again...

Ok heres the deal Monday 16th october Assemble from 6pm to raid at 7ish!

If you are new to raids or just want to make sure of things please read this!

Contact names to note for the day

Raid Leader & designated request channel hijacker:

White Magus (White Magus) @White Magus

PA Drop Coordinators:

Archy (Arch Nemesis) @Archy
Generalissimo 2 (Righteous Bob) @Gen2

The Hamidon Tank:

Hammerfall (Hammerfall)

Mito Targeter:

War Man (Odins Son)

Few quick reminders/key points...

Assemble out side the Hive entrance in Eden: This is where we will all meet up to sort out teams etc, we leave you to sort out your own teams unless you are PA dropping in which case grab Archy or Generalissimo 2 who will sort you out.

Try to make sure at least one member of your team is an experienced raider: Self explanitory really if you are on a team without an experienced raider ask around on local at the assembly point and one will probably help out, if that fails ask me via tell and I will do what I can.

Listen in on Request Channel: This is the channel I will be on all raid through giving instructions.

No Capes No Auras: These really do add to lag and lag kills raids.

Bring Awakens: People will die and those with res may be busy.

Dont run your Defences/Resistances: Hami's damage is untyped so they do nothing and will just add to the lag, Mez protection is still ok to run of course.

Ok so all thats in the guide but worth emphasising I think full info can be found in the guide and of course on the request channel on the day

Cheers,

White

Right good to have some feedback, sadly for those who would prefer sundays this one will need to be monday as I have a PvP commitment on the 15th however a sunday raid should also be forthcomming and more feed back is always good as its the raiders that make the raid

Will put up an announcement of the raid shortly for Monday 16th perhaps 6-7 to assemble for an earlier start and finish?

Cheers,

White

Ok bite the bullet time I have a PvP tourny on test this Sunday so how about ...

Assemble 7pm to raid at 8pm Monday 16th!

Cheers,

White

Ok so since the success that was the last raid a few people here and in game have asked the million dollar question "So whens the next one?" the answer... Soon I hope but its up to the Defiant community at large since you are the ones who make it what it is.

I am happy to give a go at a getting together (and typing in perma caps at ) another raid soonish but before I do I figured I would fire off a few questions and ideas. Your responces as the raiders and the majority of the people involed I think are key to making it both successful and fun so to get the disussion started...

Q1 Dates: The idea of a couple of Hami teams alternating raids has been brought up, I am happy to organise one and I think Xanthus (when his uni lets him out of his evil anti CoX cage) and his crew are up for this also. So if we were to do this how often do people think is viable/fun. I am thinking 2 raids a month myself atm but what do people think/want?

Q2 Days & Times: What day and/or time works for people in my head atm the idea of alternating Sunday and Monday nights (6-7ish assembley 7-8ish starts) seems to work but again with seaking the views of you raiders

I think these two questions are a decent starting point as to sorting a rough raid schedule and getting everyone in on the fun.

So over to you questions, comments, opinions please.

Quick disclaimer: I cant speak for Xanth or his crew at all, the info above is all based on disscussions etc as best as I remember them.

Cheers,

White

Huge Grats to Archy of the Inner Monkey for hitting 50 on Arch Ned!!!!

One more Troller for the collection!!



Cheers,

White

Ok some points, all imo of course...

Blind: You've heavily underslotted imo really should 6 slot for me 2 Acc 2 Hold and 2 Recharge does the job, you will need the recharge especially if like me you are not using Flash.

Siphon Speed: Really dont need the slows and I would strongly advise 3 recharge.

Health: Don't bother 3 slotting this unless you are a tank imo.

Phantom Army: Must have 3 recharge imo gotta cycle it as fast as possible its your main weapon, imo you dont need the Acc but if you must then 3 recharge 1 Acc and 2 Dam.

Group Invis: Not all that tbh imo lose it and get Hasten from the Speed pool to cycle your powers faster.

Epic: Matter of taste I guess but with Fulcram Shift really do suggest you consider Fire Mastery and Fireball for damage. I assume the Recharges in Temp Invun should be End reduxs and imo 1 or 2 of em is enough, better places for the slots.

Dream Masters point on Flash has merit I still dont really miss it as I reakon the best form of troll is a defeated mob and you can achive that pretty well on Ill Kin but as I said before its a play style choice.

All the above is of course imo but I really hope it helps

Cheers,

White

How very kind .....

Not much to say except thank you so very much lovely thing to say and you are entirely welcome

Cheers,

White

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How about weekly? I'll lead one raid with my crew one fortnight, and you guys do one the next?

Or, if we want to be stupid, twice in one day? Hami takes 3 hours to respawn, so it would be possible on the weekend.....

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Weekly could well be workable with alternating crews, I will have a proper chat with others but in principle I am happy to give a go at this. (god help me )

As for twice in a day, whilst not as a regular idea I think it could be cool to see if we could do it.

Cheers,

White

Bit of a belated edit to my own thanks list...

TY Shad AKA Gossamer Storm of my own Inner Monkey SG for tank team assitance

Sorry I missed ya matey, tired Mag FTL!!!

Cheers,

White

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As an aside I know I got a lot of tells support, advice, questions etc last night so if you sent me one and either got no reply or recieved your reply in caps many apologies from me. It was pretty chaotic at times and by the end of the evening I was on Perma Caps as my team can atest

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I sent you a question but got no reply, it was...

I hope you know what you're doing

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Just.... ROFLMAO

Thanks for the support

That might be the funniest thing I have read in a good while.

Cheers,

White

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I think Mags wants to do another one each night this week....

Well, that's what he told me........ :P

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Warning this statement may be a load of old .....!!!

No idea when the next raid will be though I imagine there will be one

Cheers,

White

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Wow! Is that what hami looks like when it actually dies then?

Never managed to actually see it with my crappy PC

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I couldn't on my old one, it just went "Lag. Lag. Lag. Hami-O. Lag."

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Sounds oddly familier

Great Pics Hammer!

Rar the Jelly falls!!!

As an aside I know I got a lot of tells support, advice, questions etc last night so if you sent me one and either got no reply or recieved your reply in caps many apologies from me. It was pretty chaotic at times and by the end of the evening I was on Perma Caps as my team can atest

Cheers,

White

Words cannot express the thanks deserved to all

The list of thanks is massive and I really wont try to do em all but special thanks to...

War Man
Hammerfall
Dead Calm
Mr ?
Coin
Disruptor
Hidden Healer
Bengal Tiger
Focus
Osiron
Searcher

God I really am bound to miss so many people if I try much more than that and so.....

THANK YOU ALL DEFIANT RAIDERS!!!

YOU ROCK!!!

Cheers,

White

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I like to echo plight in this, a sniper-specialist is not very good all-around character. Boost range from energy secondary is not available in sirens call, which is a shame. Another snipe from weapon mastery epic is available only in recluses victory..

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Feel I should add my own PoV to this, as a general rule (though by no means an absolute one I am sure) "One trick ponies" dont work in PvP. IMO if you want to be successful in PvP by far your best plan is to build a well rounded character and then to play a lot and get help and advice from those around you. While I would never totaly disregard an idea I personally feel emphasing snipes and hoping to take out enemies from the shadows is unlikely to work. However I am no expert and its all just my opinion but I wouldn't want anyone to find out too late the flaws in an idea. A Blaster with a strong Snipe Alpha Strike opening might be viable though I have never been a snipe fan. Anyway just my 2 inf and I wish you luck.

Cheers,

White

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TG and I seem to do well tho magsy

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h4x! I say h4x!!!

Its a valid comment and as ever my opinion is based on my own experience. Great advantage of these boards lots of good folks about with varied opinions I am sure Tyl can add lots of ideas to many a build... also only person I know who actively mines the Atlas statue, quite what that says I am not sure ...

Cheers,

White

[edit] Grrr for Tyl read Tetron.... bah, bah, bah! *mutters about global name changes [/edit]

Rar!, Yay! and indeed I might venture ... w00t!

Cheers,

White

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Hami raid that failed again......

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Yeah it was my fault. If I attended that I would have solo'd him.

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With what, toothpaste?

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"Oi Hami open up ... its Cleaning Time!!!!" .... "Whaa... no mouth, no teeth?.... h4x!!!..... Ooooh Mitos .... arrrggggghhhh!!!!"



Cheers,

White

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Flash: I have since respecced it out, again its a playstyle thing tbh but I just didnt use it enough.

Epic: I took Fire as I wanted the Fireball Fulcram Shift combo for pure damage.


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One small comment: if you've dropped Flash, you have to rely on other controllers for AoE containment to make the Fulcrum/Fire Ball combo really work.

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That is a valid point and I did consider it as should the OP, but whilst playing around for a while with tactics I've pretty much found that after Dropping PA, moving in and hitting FS-Fireball the mobs were going down fast enough Adding Flash to set up containment would be nice though and I might well take it over Fire Blast overall I have found I do well enough atm buuut .... more damage is always good.

One of the joys of Illus imo is the different ways you can use it so much so that I might well roll another Illus troller soon

Cheers,

White

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If it was a 1vs1 arranged Duel, the way i see it should be all powers, no inspirations.

If you were just fighting someone, suck it up and take it like a man.

Ofcourse, when someone has around 20 Respites and 20 Catch a Breaths it does get frustrating v.v

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No. Any PvP fight should use inspirations. They balance it out. What's a blaster supposed to do against a controller otherwise?

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Agreed imho insps are a part of the game use em end of.

Also if you are arranging a duel and dont want to be interupted, take it to the Arena please, thats what its there for!

As ever all just my 2 inf.

[edit]Ooops forgot the blaster... they should faceplant with as much style as possible and repeatedly [/edit]

Cheers,

White

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Thank you for all the help everyone who has replied.

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Your more than welcome

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Would you lot say that an Ill/Kin is quite solo-able

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See my comments on my build above I pretty much totally soloed for a good chunk of my levels. My answer Much, much more that quite!!

If you are going to solo alot bit of advice: Blind-Siphon Power-Spec Wounds-Siphon Speed(later on) is your best friend till you hit PA get em and slot asap!

Enjoy the new toon and let us know how you get on

Cheers,

White

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I like to echo plight in this, a sniper-specialist is not very good all-around character. Boost range from energy secondary is not available in sirens call, which is a shame. Another snipe from weapon mastery epic is available only in recluses victory..

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Feel I should add my own PoV to this, as a general rule (though by no means an absolute one I am sure) "One trick ponies" dont work in PvP. IMO if you want to be successful in PvP by far your best plan is to build a well rounded character and then to play a lot and get help and advice from those around you. While I would never totaly disregard an idea I personally feel emphasing snipes and hoping to take out enemies from the shadows is unlikely to work. However I am no expert and its all just my opinion but I wouldn't want anyone to find out too late the flaws in an idea. A Blaster with a strong Snipe Alpha Strike opening might be viable though I have never been a snipe fan. Anyway just my 2 inf and I wish you luck.

Cheers,

White

Ok well hopefully this may help, this is one of the respec builds for my own Illus/Kin currently 45 on his way to 50 and possibly the most fun toon I have played. Things that I think I should comment on...

Deceive: Dont have it, it never suited my play style tbh so I specced it out but it is a good power if you use it well, just not my cup of tea.

This build was used as primarily a soloing toon and not on unyielding or invincy so some slottings are a little different one example is PA I dont bother with and Acc, never really seemed to need it.

Flash: I have since respecced it out, again its a playstyle thing tbh but I just didnt use it enough.

Epic: I took Fire as I wanted the Fireball Fulcram Shift combo for pure damage.

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Exported from Ver: 1.7.6.0 of the CoH_CoV Character Builder
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Name: White Phantasm RS
Level: 50
Archetype: Controller
Primary: Illusion Control
Secondary: Kinetics
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01) --> Blind

2. Recharge Reduction(1)
3. Recharge Reduction(3)
4. Hold Duration(5)
5. Hold Duration(5)
6. Accuracy(7)
7. Accuracy(7)

01) --> Transfusion

2. Recharge Reduction(1)
3. Healing(3)
4. Healing(9)
5. Healing(11)
6. Accuracy(13)
7. Accuracy(27)

02) --> Spectral Wounds

2. Damage(2)
3. Damage(13)
4. Damage(31)
5. Accuracy(34)
6. Accuracy(37)
7. Recharge Reduction(40)

04) --> Siphon Power

2. Accuracy(4)
3. Accuracy(15)
4. Recharge Reduction(15)
5. Recharge Reduction(29)

06) --> Hasten

2. Recharge Reduction(6)
3. Recharge Reduction(31)
4. Recharge Reduction(31)

08) --> Superior Invisibility

2. End Reduction(8)
3. End Reduction(9)

10) --> Siphon Speed

2. Accuracy(10)
3. Accuracy(11)
4. Recharge Reduction(17)
5. Recharge Reduction(17)
6. Recharge Reduction(25)

12) --> Swift

2. Run Speed(12)

14) --> Super Speed

2. Run Speed(14)

16) --> Health

2. Healing(16)

18) --> Phantom Army

2. Recharge Reduction(18)
3. Recharge Reduction(19)
4. Recharge Reduction(19)
5. Damage(23)
6. Damage(23)
7. Damage(25)

20) --> Stamina

2. Endurance Modification(20)
3. Endurance Modification(21)
4. Endurance Modification(21)

22) --> Speed Boost

2. Recharge Reduction(22)
3. Endurance Modification(29)

24) --> Recall Friend

2. Range Increase(24)

26) --> Spectral Terror

2. Accuracy(26)
3. Accuracy(27)
4. Fear Duration(39)
5. Recharge Reduction(46)

28) --> Inertial Reduction

2. Jump(28)

30) --> Flash

2. Accuracy(30)
3. Accuracy(43)
4. Hold Duration(43)
5. Hold Duration(46)
6. Recharge Reduction(50)
7. Recharge Reduction(50)

32) --> Phantasm

2. Accuracy(32)
3. Accuracy(33)
4. Accuracy(33)
5. Damage(33)
6. Damage(34)
7. Damage(34)

35) --> Transference

2. Recharge Reduction(35)
3. Accuracy(36)
4. Accuracy(36)
5. Endurance Modification(36)
6. Endurance Modification(37)
7. Endurance Modification(37)

38) --> Fulcrum Shift

2. Accuracy(38)
3. Accuracy(39)
4. Recharge Reduction(39)
5. Recharge Reduction(40)
6. Recharge Reduction(40)

41) --> Fire Ball

2. Damage(41)
3. Damage(42)
4. Damage(42)
5. Accuracy(42)
6. Accuracy(43)

44) --> Fire Shield

2. End Reduction(44)
3. End Reduction(45)
4. Damage Resist(45)
5. Damage Resist(45)
6. Damage Resist(46)

47) --> Fire Blast

2. Accuracy(47)
3. Accuracy(48)
4. Damage(48)
5. Damage(48)
6. Damage(50)

49) --> Group Invisibility

2. Recharge Reduction(49)

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01) --> Sprint

2. Empty Enhancement(1)

01) --> Brawl

2. Empty Enhancement(1)

01) --> Containment

2. Empty Enhancement(1)

02) --> Rest

2. Empty Enhancement(2)

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Anyway hope its of use, any questions feel free to lob them up here or PM me.

Cheers,

White

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Give Sechs the star me love Sechs!!!

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You're obsessed with Sechs, I'd go so far as to say your were Sechs mad........ is that enough puns?

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Round here?! ... nah prolly not even close :P

Sechs feak Greek!.... scary ...

On a more serious note sad news curse you WoW!!!

All the best and I hope you find the new leader you are looking for

Cheers,

White

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"why play anything else when you can just roll a toon that will pwn everything" is an attitude I see expressed to often. Until then all you will get are easymode players and the odd squishy that gets instaganked.

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That's a very good point that I hadn't thought of.

If you've got a FoTM scrapper/stalker that will get you high PvP rep with ease, why roll anything that would require a challenge or change in gameplay? What's the incentive?

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I think it comes down to why you're playing the game - are you trying to "beat" it, or other players, and show that you're "the best" in some way, or are you looking to have fun and challenge yourself?

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From my observations most people play pvp side to be the "pwnz0r".

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Emphasis mine

But not all of us, tbh I am not all that in PvP and get beat often but I play for the fun and the adrenaline rush of taking on others. I don't do FotM builds myself and several of my toons have some glaring errors in build as anyone who has dueled me can tell ya. In zones Magus does indeed get ganked but if I am there with a team I can help em gank right back. However the point is well taken there are some issues with builds at times and a little more balance could help those of us who are less than ub3r at times, most builds can be made decent in PvP and there is indeed too much focus on the easier or FotM at times, dissapointing at times but to be expected I fear.

Anyway just 2 inf on behalf of the few of us who are not totaly optimiesed for, and/or are still learning about, PvP but love the rush

We all learn and can have fun doing so I hope.

Cheers,

White