Venture

Landing in the Abyss was a mistake...they were taking Horta Vines at random trying to get away from you. As you approach the EB says they're stuck at a dead end now and have to fight.

Actually they said the obelisk wouldn't transfer Numina's powers but it would kill her.

There is no such mission. Clockwork have been capable of speech since Day One.

I figured out the Big Secret back around launch playing one of the one-off Clockwork missions in (IIRC) the 15-20 bracket because it had Clockwork talking about how much they hated my character.

My thoughts exactly.

I found the arc to be just as meh-tastic as the first one. I also got a good laugh out of the YouTube promo bit that basically comes out and says they're greasing a character as an attention grab, which is one of the worst reasons to do it.

Fiat justita ruat caelum.

Stuffing her back in the fridge against her will is wrong; damn the consequences. Making the decision for her is exactly what Tyrant has been doing to the whole world.

This is really the heart of the matter. The original GR Praetorian content suffered from a very bad case of Darkness Induced Audience Apathy, i.e. the setting is so bleak and both sides are so despicable that there is nothing at stake. The world is going to continue to suck no matter what, so the audience (or player in this case) has no incentive to care or emotionally invest at all.

So, along comes First Ward, the developers' first chance to address the problem, and they...twist the knife in the wound and then pour salt and lemon juice on it. As a player the content is sufficiently bleak (and sufficiently difficult) that I have no reason to want to go through it again (played it all in beta). From an in-character perspective my Primal characters have no incentive to go there (they have their own world to protect, thank you very much) and my few Praetorians (one, actually) would take one look at First Ward and execute a different trope: Screw This, I'm Outta Here.

Whereas I am made of pure unadulterated awe...eh, too easy.

I don't list anything that low because I don't want to make life any easier than necessary for flippers.

Of course, I also don't list anything that doesn't have outstanding bids, either.

Fixed.

That notion was in the Black Knight "not dead yet" territory long before i21; the fall of Galaxy City makes it officially Deader Than Disco.

Quick old chum! To the Mission Architect terminal!

No, and no, unless they're willing to grant my request to kill the entire Freedom Phalanx.

No, have your pet fanwank theory destroyed by Word of God or future stories.

I agree that in general we have to accept that there will never be enough options to cover all bases. In this particular case, though, I do think there should have been an option in between "send him to the Carboard Prison" and "kill him".

What you imagine has absolutely no currency.

There are two reasons for this. The first is simply that the game is what it is, and gluing feathers on a rat won't make it a swan. If you have to keep mentally editing the text to make it comport to your expectations, or even to make it make sense, you end up in "Click Here To Fight Mobs Land". At which point you seriously have to ask if maybe you might get better entertainment elsewhere.

The secondary reason is that the devs will take the story in the direction they want, not in the direction you imagined. Sure, most of the time your fanwank isn't going to matter, but if (e.g.) the devs decide to re-use Thiery (yeah, so what if there was an option to kill him, Bobby Ewing was dead too) then you're Jossed.

Actually, a permanent wipe of the server has never been done. I've had characters on it since it started, leveled (legitimately) several of them to 50. Having permanent resource on Test was very convenient before character copy started bringing over inf. Now, it's not such a big deal.

I'm not going to go off on a tear if the policy has finally changed, but it would have been nice to know in advance, even if nothing could be done about the impending loss.

They're the best part!

(I never had to be forced to eat my veggies, particularly lima beans.)

And then you can use the drop-down menu on the info display to look at it from the perspective of any AT you want.

But you know what, screw all this. If I'm going to be upset over anything it'll be Steve Jobs' death. The damned power set works fine, characters in this game are too powerful anyway, sit down, shut up, eat your vegetables and like it.

You'll get used to it.

Everyone does.

Having read your posts for years and having done my fair share of work in retail, I can say without hesitation you are emblematic of the type of customer I would go to great lengths to lose.

He received a just sentence (and very unwisely turned down a good deal from the prosecutor). He could have gotten two counts of manslaughter; AFAIK he could even have been charged with first-degree murder as the deaths occurred during the commission of a felony.

N.b. from the official page: "Since his escape from the Zigursky Penitentiary, Frostfire is suspected to be directly involved in 10 Counts of Felony Assault, 2 Counts of Bookmaking, 4 Counts of Robbery, 3 Counts of Extortion, 3 Counts of Racketeering Violence, 8 Counts of Arson, 2 Counts of Murder" And then, as Eva points out, it gets worse in the new appearances, and then magically he gets a Get Out of Jail Free card.

I'm limiting myself to the actual stories behind NPCs, obviously. In Frostfire's case, it's said that he blew up a Longbow base and killed hundreds of people. This is in the actual GR material, mind you, which shows what its writers thought was an example of a "redeemable" person.

As for PCs, I have two villains gone hero. The first was level 50 long before GR and if you go over his souvenirs and badges it's obvious that he's a war criminal at best and a Complete Monster at worst. The other was a Tanker I chose to re-roll as a Brute. I would rather have gnawed my arm off than gone through the Praetorian content again so I made him a villain and was very, very careful with what I had him do in-game until he could switch at 20. In general, the side-switching system is a ridiculous Heel Face Revolving Door that consigns those using it to Punch Clock Villainy.

a) It is possible to express reasonable displeasure with a product, even a "luxury" one, without having to bear accusations of "whining".

b) It is far better that people do so prior to taking their business elsewhere. As with most issues in life, there is an entire continuum of responses between acceptance without question and complete abandonment.