Valentyna

IF nobody answered you its because they don't know. Welcome to CoH - land of the carebears, LOL. You get used to it after a while. Or you go play EVE online, I guess. *le shrug*

Im only gtting into masterminds now, and I can't give you expert advice either, but I can tell you a few basic universal tips.

Don't slot for defence. Ever.

Do slot for +HP and +recharge. Hit Points are one of the few things tht aren't hurt by ED. Recharge will help you get important big ticket items up faster - in particular you probably want world of pain perma.

Teleport Foe is your friend. Masterminds are not highly mobile, since they have to stay with their pets. INstead of chasing people, bring them to you. It can also bring theminto range of agonizing cry, and your fairly short range pets.

With WoP, your patron shield, and ember shield, you ought to be able get your resistances roughly caped, and with bodyguard mode, suppress pain, and Nullify pain, you ought to be fairly hard to kill.

Procs are (also) your friends. This is true for anyone, but no one more than masterminds whose attacks do rather little damage without it. The fact that many of them are unresistable makes it even better. I suggest stocking your attacks with as many damage procs as you can lay your grubby hands on.



I had a thread of my own on the PvP forums asking about advice on MM secondaries, that might have some advice for you (Ill probably be going /Thermal myself, preferring heat exhaustion over the regeneration of supress pain and easier resist capping, but as far as they told me, either one works well.

Mmm, on a big team (or even jsut with henchmen) /therm can rally give you that 'glorified buffbot' feal that puts some people off. /Dark, as a debuff set, can feel muhc more active, and also give you fewer things to keep track of (paying attention to every buff timer on every pet and person on our team is practicaly a fulltime job in itself). If you can keep track of it all, though, thermal is certainly a great set.

Hmm! I will say I wish I'd read the fine print on Forge. 60 seconds seems like too long a recharge time, if you ask me!

P.S. I have decided t go with Therm. Pain seems like better in huge battles and team settings, and I just don' have a crew to run with. Ill build a bit more for dues, and let it carry over into support when in zones where possible.

Thanks,all of you, for hte advice.

Ahh, keen. I still think you needmore of either defnce or recharge. Low 20s defences just don't cut it. I wouldshoot for at least 30% PReferably 37.5% so that a single purple pill soft-caps you. 45% is way more trouble than its worth, especially if you're planning on letting your henchmen take your hits.

S/L resistance is easy to get. Thats its main virtue. In my expereice, ranged defence, with a minor in AoE, is vastly superior. If you're in melee then you're doing something wrong (at least in PvM - and in PvP defence is just fail these days)

If i get fighting, I can'tg et teleportation for TP foe. Im not sure if thats a trade worht making. THough, Is uppsoe villains don't get Wedding Bands to top up their resistances (mmm... broken temp powers...!). Ill have to give that some thought.

For the record, other powersets would be speed, fitness, and leadership. I might not even take take TP for the sake fo taking jumping, though I suppose its not as critical to resist KB as a mastermind, as it is with other characters.

YO seem to ahve built a lot of resistance into the set bonuses, which is fun, but you should know, obviously, that it doesnt actually help your pets. Or is taht just coincidence. IN any case, I can't help thinking more recharge, or more defence might serve you well.

As for defence, ranged defence with a minor in AoE is much more effective, in my experience. Or rather, tis effective against a much wider range of enemies. S/L defence has the virtue of being much EASIER since you can get about halfway there from just the epic shield (every class has at least one that does defence rather than resistance, as far as I know - for masterminds its in Mace Mastery).

Consider not bothering with the travel powers and relying on ninja run. I did, and I was amazed how much I didn't miss the transition.

I probalby would do Power of the Phoenix, either - I've always been skeptical of rez powers on the simple grounds that it seems silly to spend precious power slots on something that a 250inf pot can do instead.

Cr4akc Whip is teh real big ticket one. The others are fairly comperable to other ST attacks in any set. Of course, the point is that their DAMGE is not comparable to the attacks of other sets, but thats not what we took them for, really. I definatly recommend endurence reduction in Crack Whip.

By taking a resistance shield I can add moreto my range defence from the sets, ironically, which si what we're building for here. AoE is a secondary consideration, definately. I wish it were higher. Melee is irrelevent - imobs should ensure it never becomes an issue (Hover can achieve ~the same effect).

Bellow is what I have now. It has higher defence as the cost of lower recharge. Istill can't clsoe the last 1.4% to make it truly soft-caped, though



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Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Pain Domination
Power Pool: Presence
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Summon Demonlings

• (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
• (3) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
• (3) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
• (5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
• (7) Blood Mandate - Damage

Level 1: Nullify Pain

• (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance
• (36) Panacea - Hea/Recharge
• (37) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
• (37) Panacea - Heal
• (37) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance

Level 2: Corruption

• (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
• (7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
• (9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
• (9) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (11) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 4: Lash

• (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
• (13) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
• (13) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
• (15) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
• (15) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• (17) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 6: Enchant Demon

• (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 8: Crack Whip

• (A) Ragnarok - Damage
• (31) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (33) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
• (34) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
• (34) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown

Level 10: Soothe

• (A) HamiO:Golgi Exposure

Level 12: Summon Demons

• (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
• (17) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
• (19) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
• (19) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (21) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
• (21) Blood Mandate - Damage

Level 14: Provoke

• (A) Accuracy IO

Level 16: Hurdle

• (A) Jumping IO

Level 18: Health

• (A) Miracle - +Recovery

Level 20: Stamina

• (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod
• (34) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 22: Suppress Pain

• (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
• (23) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
• (23) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
• (27) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
• (27) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
• (29) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery

Level 24: Hasten

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
• (25) Recharge Reduction IO
• (25) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 26: Summon Demon Prince

• (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
• (29) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
• (31) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
• (31) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (33) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
• (33) Blood Mandate - Damage

Level 28: World of Pain

• (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
• (36) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End
• (40) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
• (43) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge

Level 30: Assault

• (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment

• (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 35: Anguishing Cry

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
• (36) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge
• (46) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 38: Maneuvers

• (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
• (39) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
• (39) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
• (39) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
• (40) Red Fortune - Defense
• (40) Red Fortune - Endurance

Level 41: Charged Armor

• (A) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance
• (42) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End
• (42) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist
• (42) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
• (43) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Endurance
• (43) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Resist

Level 44: Electrifying Fences

• (A) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Recharge
• (45) Trap of the Hunter - Endurance/Immobilize
• (45) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Endurance
• (45) Trap of the Hunter - Immobilize/Accuracy
• (46) Trap of the Hunter - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
• (46) Trap of the Hunter - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 47: Hell on Earth

• (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
• (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
• (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
• (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
• (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets

Level 49: Painbringer

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
• (50) Recharge Reduction IO

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Level 1: Brawl

• (A) Accuracy IO

Level 1: Sprint

• (A) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth

Level 2: Rest

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 1: Supremacy
Level 6: Ninja Run

Hmm. I suppose my real choice, then, is between more raw survivability with /pain, or... heat exhaustion. Tough choice, LOL!

Is the regen aura from pain really terribly good? It doesn't seemt o do much for me at ~23rd level. Even taking the sum of its effects on all my pets isn't that impressive. Is it higher in PvP perhaps, and Mi'd sjust doesn't show it?

Wow. The idea of a /dark pvp build blows my mind, LOL! Out of curiosity, why pain before therm? I know, I know, the anoying questions. I'm just trying to get a feel for how this build will play out. Out of curiosity, which of the THREE of them, would you say is best for zone PvP? The idea of a dark Miasma charater cleaning house in PvP just tickles me waaaaay too pink.

Dark? Seriously? Wow! I remember, vaguely, the ol daysw hen dark was just unambiguously useless everywhere. But then, so were masterminds, at the time. *le shrug*

Between therm and pain, what do you think wins out?

Im working on a demon summoning build (me and the whole known universe). Im currently working on a /pain build, but a friend today made a great case for thermal (mmm... heat exhaustion... yummy)!

This makes me rethink the matter, and I'm led to... well... to my title question, I guess. What IS, all things being equal, the best MM secondary for PvP (both solo, and group)?

Thanks, as always, for the help.

It is also, Ive always thought, worth remembering that that proc has the disadvantage of randomness, as opposed to a simple recovery boost. .2 is simply an average. Sometimes, it might happenf ar more often, and sometimes far less. It all works out in the wash, so to speak (or so the statisticians tell us), its entirely possible that at a time when you actually NEED it it won't be there. a flat %recovery bonus is reliable.

Wait, yes I can. It means lowering my beautiful, beautriful recharge bonus, I can. By rearranging Soothe, I came up with the following (It also incorporates Enforced Moral instead of Assault - still not sure about that choice, but I'll decide by thirty whether I agree with Plainguy about it or not).

As always, thanks all!


P.S. Ninja Run is the best thing ever! I dont miss a travel power,even in Grandville!



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Valentyna: Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Pain Domination
Power Pool: Presence
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Summon Demonlings

• (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
• (3) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
• (3) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
• (5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
• (7) Blood Mandate - Damage

Level 1: Nullify Pain

• (A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance
• (37) Panacea - Hea/Recharge
• (40) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
• (43) Panacea - Heal
• (46) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance

Level 2: Corruption

• (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
• (7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
• (9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
• (9) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (11) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 4: Lash

• (A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
• (13) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
• (13) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
• (15) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
• (15) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
• (17) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 6: Enchant Demon

• (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 8: Crack Whip

• (A) Ragnarok - Damage
• (17) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (19) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
• (19) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
• (21) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown

Level 10: Soothe

• (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance
• (39) Miracle - Heal

Level 12: Summon Demons

• (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
• (21) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
• (23) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
• (23) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (25) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
• (25) Blood Mandate - Damage

Level 14: Provoke

• (A) Perfect Zinger - Taunt
• (31) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge
• (33) Perfect Zinger - Accuracy/Recharge
• (37) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Range

Level 16: Hurdle

• (A) Jumping IO

Level 18: Health

• (A) Miracle - +Recovery

Level 20: Stamina

• (A) Endurance Modification IO
• (27) Performance Shifter - EndMod
• (40) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End

Level 22: Suppress Pain

• (A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
• (27) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
• (29) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
• (29) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
• (31) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
• (31) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery

Level 24: Hasten

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
• (36) Recharge Reduction IO
• (37) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 26: Summon Demon Prince

• (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
• (33) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
• (34) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
• (34) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (34) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
• (36) Blood Mandate - Damage

Level 28: World of Pain

• (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
• (33) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
• (36) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge
• (39) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End

Level 30: Enforced Morale

• (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment

• (A) Endurance Reduction IO

Level 35: Anguishing Cry

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
• (40) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Recharge
• (46) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge

Level 38: Painbringer

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
• (39) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 41: Charged Armor

• (A) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance
• (42) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End
• (42) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist
• (42) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
• (43) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Endurance
• (43) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Resist

Level 44: Electrifying Fences

• (A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize
• (45) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
• (45) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge
• (45) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance
• (46) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold

Level 47: Hell on Earth

• (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
• (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
• (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
• (48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
• (50) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets

Level 49: Maneuvers

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
• (50) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure

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Level 1: Brawl

• (A) Accuracy IO

Level 1: Sprint

• (A) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth

Level 2: Rest

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 1: Supremacy
Level 6: Ninja Run

Hmm. Right you are. I will certainly do that. Ideally I want very much to find a third slot for Stamina and have both. I just can;t fathom where I could take it from.

Plainguy, I do not see a build posted by you. I've looked twice. Am I going off my rocker, or is something wrong? O.o

Incidently, there will be a PVP version of this character, but that is not this build. No sane PvPer builds for defence, for one thing, and no sane PvP mastermind excludes Teleport Foe, for another.

Inspiration!

I realized the other night that if I wasn't too particular about enduring horrible, horrible agrivation, I could always drop super speed and simply rely on Ninja Run, and free u some space in the build. What I arrived at was the following.

My one remaining tortured internal controversy is whether tactics, or Pain-bringer, will be more useful to me over-all. Thoughts?

Oh, and thanks to all. the suggstions have been fantastic! I really appreciate it. This is the only game I've played where you can really ahve a thread like this since UO.


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Valentyna: Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Pain Domination
Power Pool: Presence
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1: Summon Demonlings
(A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
(3) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
(5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
(7) Blood Mandate - Damage


Level 1: Nullify Pain
(A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance
(37) Panacea - Hea/Recharge
(40) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(43) Panacea - Heal
(46) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance


Level 2: Corruption
(A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
(7) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
(9) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
(9) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(11) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(11) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge


Level 4: Lash
(A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
(13) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
(13) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
(15) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(15) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(17) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)


Level 6: Enchant Demon
(A) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 8: Crack Whip
(A) Ragnarok - Damage
(17) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(19) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
(19) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance
(21) Ragnarok - Chance for Knockdown


Level 10: Soothe
(A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance
(39) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge
(39) Panacea - Hea/Recharge
(40) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(40) Panacea - Heal


Level 12: Summon Demons
(A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
(21) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
(23) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
(23) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(25) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
(25) Blood Mandate - Damage


Level 14: Provoke
(A) Perfect Zinger - Taunt
(31) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge
(33) Perfect Zinger - Accuracy/Recharge
(37) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Range


Level 16: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO


Level 18: Health
(A) Miracle - +Recovery


Level 20: Stamina
(A) Endurance Modification IO
(27) Endurance Modification IO


Level 22: Suppress Pain
(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
(27) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
(29) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
(29) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(31) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
(31) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery


Level 24: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(36) Recharge Reduction IO
(37) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 26: Summon Demon Prince
(A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
(33) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
(34) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
(34) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(34) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
(36) Blood Mandate - Damage


Level 28: World of Pain
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(33) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
(36) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge


Level 30: Assault
(A) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment
(A) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 35: Anguishing Cry
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(46) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge


Level 38: Painbringer
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(39) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 41: Dark Embrace
(A) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance
(42) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End
(42) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist
(42) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
(43) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Endurance
(43) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Resist


Level 44: Soul Tentacles
(A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize
(45) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
(45) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge
(45) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance
(46) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold


Level 47: Hell on Earth
(A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
(48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
(48) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
(48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(50) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
(50) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets


Level 49: Maneuvers
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(50) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure


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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Accuracy IO


Level 1: Sprint
(A) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth


Level 2: Rest
(A) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 1: Supremacy
Level 6: Ninja Run



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Hmm, I CANT make up the difference with travel powers. they seem to ahve nerfed BotZ! Bastards! Grr!

Mmm, I think you're right about soothe. I will probably ditch the assault for it. As you point out, those toggles are a lot fo end to run for what they do. I do need maneuvers, and tactics (with its set), though, to reach the defence threshold. I supposeI could go back to flgiht and get 2 copies of BotZ to make up the difference, but don't you find tactics is worth it, at all?

Slotting up perosnal attacks is mroe for the set bonusses than for the extra damage. The damage is just nice. I mgiht as well be doing it as opposed to /nothing/, after-all.

I can't say I agree with you about painbringer though. It would be nice to ahve, but again, I'd rather have assault if I ahd slots to spare, and I'd certainly rather have the -res of the personal attacks. If I weren't planning on absorbing the bulk of the agro myself, the +regen component would be more useful, but I just don't see it as a must have for this build.

My patience (and my budget for gold farmers, when patience runs out), is as close to infinite as makes no difference. Influence is no object. But I appreciat ethe concern.

Incorporating your suggestions, my current build is as follows (may change if I decide ot replace leadership with a 2nd travel pool):


Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.703
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Valentyna: Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Pain Domination
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Presence
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
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Level 1: Summon Demonlings
(A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
(3) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
(5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
(7) Blood Mandate - Damage


Level 1: Nullify Pain
(A) Panacea - Hea/Recharge
(33) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(33) Panacea - Heal


Level 2: Corruption
(A) Apocalypse - Damage
(29) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(31) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge
(31) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
(31) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)


Level 4: Lash
(A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
(7) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
(9) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
(9) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(19) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(46) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)


Level 6: Enchant Demon
(A) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 8: Crack Whip
(A) Ragnarok - Damage
(19) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
(21) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(27) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
(29) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance


Level 10: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(11) Recharge Reduction IO
(11) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 12: Summon Demons
(A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
(13) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
(13) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
(15) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(17) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
(17) Blood Mandate - Damage


Level 14: Super Speed
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
(15) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance


Level 16: Hurdle
(A) Jumping IO


Level 18: Health
(A) Miracle - +Recovery


Level 20: Stamina
(A) Endurance Modification IO
(21) Endurance Modification IO


Level 22: Suppress Pain
(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
(23) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
(23) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
(25) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(25) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
(27) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery


Level 24: Provoke
(A) Perfect Zinger - Taunt
(34) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge
(34) Perfect Zinger - Accuracy/Recharge
(36) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Range


Level 26: Summon Demon Prince
(A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
(36) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
(36) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
(37) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(37) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
(37) Blood Mandate - Damage


Level 28: Soothe
(A) Panacea - Hea/Recharge
(33) Panacea - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(34) Panacea - Heal


Level 30: World of Pain
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(39) Titanium Coating - Resistance/Recharge
(39) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge


Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment
(A) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 35: Maneuvers
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(40) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure


Level 38: Tactics
(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
(39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
(40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
(43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
(46) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up


Level 41: Dark Embrace
(A) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance
(42) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End
(42) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist
(42) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
(43) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Endurance
(43) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Resist


Level 44: Soul Tentacles
(A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize
(45) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
(45) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge
(45) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance
(46) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold


Level 47: Hell on Earth
(A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
(48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
(48) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
(48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(50) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
(50) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets


Level 49: Anguishing Cry
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(50) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge


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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Accuracy IO


Level 1: Sprint
(A) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth


Level 2: Rest
(A) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 1: Supremacy
Level 6: Ninja Run



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Hmm! Hold over fromwhen the build ahd flight in it, I think. I never noticed! XD Probalby I'll take hurdle, now.

I would have liked soothe and painbringer in about that order. Assault is better than pain-bringer, no question - 11% to 8 team members and 7 pets is a much greater addition to damage than 37% to any one person, and although the regeneration is nice, any worthwhile tank will have had to plan to survive whatever you're doing without counting on the presence of a /pain mastermind, unless you're part of a regular supergroup team.

Whether I should take Soothe and drop assault, though, still keeps me up at night (literally, one time - i need help! XD). What i probably will do is simply wait and see whether I find myself needing it at high level. After all, in theory, people should be trying to damage /me/ not my team-mates, but no agro management is air-tight, especially not with pool-power taunts, so one never knows when an errant pet (or team-mate) may need saving. If I find this situation is common enough at high level I'll definitely change yup the build and forgo the 11% damage buff.

datachunk as requested

and thanks for the true advice.

does anone nthink it might be wise to ditch assault for soothe, even if I can only leav eit with one slot? how much is 10% when you really think about it? XD


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Please find build bellow. I found myself horifyingly starved for powers and slots, by virtue of taking all 3 personal attacks from my primary (and, indeed, the entire primary). This is not merely vanity (although it does look awesome) - the -res debuff of "hellfire" effects is so good it hurts!

It did lead to some tough choices, though. Several powers, from Corruption, to Anguishing Cry, to all-important Stamina are under-slotted to provide the IOs. On the powers angle, Soothe and Painbringer, two powers I really would have liked to have, didn't make the cut.

I'm still in anguish over these decisions, so if anyone would lie to propose alternative ways I might have done things, please, please do!

Note that the goals of the build, in terms of slotting, were fairly simple: at east 37.5% ranged defense (enough to soft-cap with a single, tier 1, purple potion), then enough global recharge to make World of Pain perma, and the other long-charge items as close to it as practical, then endurence (this build is already expensive at level 11), then Hit points.


P.S. I can't export color codes? WaaaH!

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.703
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Valentyna: Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Pain Domination
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fitness
Power Pool: Presence
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Villain Profile:
------------
Level 1: Summon Demonlings
(A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
(3) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
(3) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
(5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(5) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
(7) Blood Mandate - Damage


Level 1: Nullify Pain
(A) Panacea - Heal/Endurance
(33) Panacea - Endurance/Recharge
(33) Panacea - Hea/Recharge
(33) Panacea - Heal
(34) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance


Level 2: Corruption
(A) Apocalypse - Damage
(29) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(31) Apocalypse - Accuracy/Recharge
(31) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance
(31) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative)


Level 4: Lash
(A) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
(7) Mako's Bite - Damage/Endurance
(9) Mako's Bite - Damage/Recharge
(9) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
(19) Mako's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
(46) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal)


Level 6: Enchant Demon
(A) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 8: Crack Whip
(A) Ragnarok - Damage
(19) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge
(21) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(27) Ragnarok - Accuracy/Recharge
(29) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance


Level 10: Hasten
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(11) Recharge Reduction IO
(11) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 12: Summon Demons
(A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
(13) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
(13) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
(15) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(17) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
(17) Blood Mandate - Damage


Level 14: Super Speed
(A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
(15) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance


Level 16: Swift
(A) Flight Speed IO


Level 18: Health
(A) Miracle - +Recovery


Level 20: Stamina
(A) Endurance Modification IO
(21) Performance Shifter - EndMod


Level 22: Suppress Pain
(A) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance
(23) Numina's Convalescence - Endurance/Recharge
(23) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Recharge
(25) Numina's Convalescence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
(25) Numina's Convalescence - Heal
(27) Numina's Convalescence - +Regeneration/+Recovery


Level 24: Provoke
(A) Perfect Zinger - Taunt
(34) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge
(34) Perfect Zinger - Accuracy/Recharge
(36) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Range


Level 26: Summon Demon Prince
(A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
(36) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
(36) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
(37) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
(37) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
(37) Blood Mandate - Damage


Level 28: World of Pain
(A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
(39) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Resist
(39) Aegis - Resistance/Recharge


Level 30: Assault
(A) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment
(A) Endurance Reduction IO


Level 35: Anguishing Cry
(A) Recharge Reduction IO
(40) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge


Level 38: Tactics
(A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff
(39) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge
(40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
(40) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Recharge/Endurance
(43) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
(46) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up


Level 41: Dark Embrace
(A) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance
(42) Gladiator's Armor - Resistance/Rech/End
(42) Gladiator's Armor - End/Resist
(42) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
(43) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Endurance
(43) Gladiator's Armor - Recharge/Resist


Level 44: Soul Tentacles
(A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize
(45) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge
(45) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge
(45) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance
(46) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold


Level 47: Hell on Earth
(A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge
(48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage
(48) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance
(48) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
(50) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
(50) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets


Level 49: Maneuvers
(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed
(50) HamiO:Enzyme Exposure


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Level 1: Brawl
(A) Accuracy IO


Level 1: Sprint
(A) Unbounded Leap - +Stealth


Level 2: Rest
(A) Recharge Reduction IO


Level 1: Supremacy
Level 6: Ninja Run