Tyger42
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Quote:Oh, I see some faulty logic here alright...Originally Posted by rsclark
That is some pretty faulty logic there. By that logic, it was also an "exploit" to play the game normally and run the 10-20 level mission with a normal 10-20 level character that you intended to keep playing. After all, that "loophole" was closed as well. -
Quote:Given their power, the price drop indicated that they were TOO easy to get, which I'd consider a BAD thing, actually.Originally Posted by Ukaserex
And for the first time in a long time, the average price of lotg procs dropped!
This was a good thing. A shame they'll climb back up. -
Quote:That's exactly what they're doing. In spite of the ease of obtaining the merits through the SSAs, it might have been left in if not for how trivial it was to abuse them - and how obvious that method of abuse was. With the new sewer trials, hell, you can be to 10-17 within an hour tops.Originally Posted by Brillig
I believe the people who were abusing it were rolling new characters, powerleveling to 10 or 17, grabbing 2 AMs (first run SSA1, weekly run SSA1), cashing in and delete/repeat.
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Quote:No, I'm pretty sure that to any reasonable, intelligent, SANE human being, pitching a foul-mouthed tantrum over not knowing something because you chose not to read the information that was readily available and easily found qualifies as "overreacting"...Originally Posted by Ukaserex
Overreacting? I guess it all depends on someone's experience as to what's over-reacting and what isn't.
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Quote:Huh, interesting. I've only done a full side-swap once, and don't recall getting it. My memory could be off, it could have changed in the time in between. Dunno...Originally Posted by MallardDuck
StarGeek is correct. Which is one of the reasons I was so confused initially. My villain had the Frenzy power and the villain badge but had cycled through from villain to hero and back to villain and had not run additional tip missions as a second time villain to reinforce his villain-ness. So no A-merit. While another villain that had not cycled through did get the A-merit. It was puzzling. They both seemed clearly "confirmed" as villains. I understand now - but more communication at the time of the patch notes would have helped a lot.
The fact that it's way out of line with rewards otherwise available for such little effort makes it obvious something wasn't kosher. If you don't agree, frankly, you're just deluding yourself.Quote:Originally Posted by Ukaserex
I beg to differ on a couple of points. Why would anyone expect this to change? There was nothing outrageous about getting a hero merit for being a VIP (yay, thanks for being subscribed) and finishing a small story arc. Was the reward larger than one would expect? Sure. Who am I (or you for that matter) to suggest that the dev team didn't know full well what they were doing? -
Quote:Then he should have gotten the A-merit. However, he also said he'd just switched sides, in which case, he shouldn't have the power.....Originally Posted by Aggelakis
Not that I endorse MisterD's terrible grammar, spelling, and atrocious manners (not that yours are all that much better by this point, but at least you didn't start out on the offensive), but he did in fact state that he has the Hero power.
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Quote:All of the cool stuff from the packs is available in pieces on the market. Some bundled together, like the costume pieces, but the powers, emotes, and such are generally individually sold.Originally Posted by OutaControl
the don't seem to sell the packs anymore, I can't seem to figure out how to get some of the cool stuff they had in the packs.
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Quote:...because you don't have to use the recipes you get in the trial?Originally Posted by OutaControl
All temp powers from recipes are disabled for use inside of the trials sio why do recipes for items you can't use there drop?
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Quote:And I can counter with just as many examples where they have quickly fixed bad ones and good ones have been left for an extended period. ( This very one we're discussing being an example of the latter. Mito farms another. )Originally Posted by MisterD
How can you say that Paragon does NOT quickly fix the good bugs, and delayed the 'bad' ones? It happens, like every issue! Do you actually play this game? DO you want me to list examples of this??
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Quote:You're the one who thinks initially ESTABLISHING your alignment is the same as REINFORCING it. You can't reinforce something that wasn't established to begin with. ( Frome your own copy/paste: "Strengthen (an existing feeling, idea, or habit)" In fact, you're pretty much the first person I've encountered that thinks that switching sides = "reinforcing your alignment". You mean you didn't notice that you didn't have the little "countdown" buff that comes as a result of reinforcing your alignment?Originally Posted by MisterD
How could they not know? Um, quite easily. Because, again, try listening here..NOT EVERYONE reads the patch notes. Have you got it yet? Is it a hard concept? Let's try something else. Does everyone who buys a computer game read the manual? No, they do not. People just like to get down to it.
I also like you accusing me of willful ignorance, when I DID say..I already knew about the change, prior to running the arc. Try to keep up smart guy. Again, I figured that since I did 33 missions, to change my alignment from vill to hero, and got the shiny Hero ONLY temp power..that I was in fact a Hero. But no.
Let us consult all powerful google.
re·in·force/ˌrē-inˈfôrs/
Verb:
Strengthen or support, esp. with additional personnel or material.
Strengthen (an existing feeling, idea, or habit).
Oh, look at that smart guy. With additional material! You know, like the TEMP power I got for going from rogue to hero? Wow, isn't that funny. Strengthen? Well..surely if we look as 100% hero or villain as full strength Ideals, then going from rogue, a hallway ideal (50%), to the full power Hero one..counts as, you guessed it...Strengthening it!
So in fact, if people did read the patch notes, which you still believe everyone does, its right up there with going to church every sunday for you right, anyone who was not sure of the wording, and checked the definition of Reinforce..would come to the SAME conclusion as me.
The way the system is now, you have to repeat, or do an additional morality (or a first time one) in order to qualify. Does it mention repeating? In those magical, stone engraved patch notes? What, it doesn't?? No! Surely not.
And lastly, I am not going to bother trying to making insults sound non-insulting with apparently cunning word play. You. Are. Stupid. -
Quote:Showstopper? I do not think that word means what you think it means...Originally Posted by MisterD
Painfully obvious? Huh..sounds like something to be considered a showstopper..and something that SHOULD have been realised in Beta. Well, before it even went to Beta honestly.
Funny how people keep claiming that Paragon is quick to fix bugs that benefit us, but slow to fix ones that harm us... Then when they leave one like this in for a few weeks, those same people claim they should have fixed it sooner if it was really a bug. I guess them not fixing bugs that benefit us is only bad when it is convenient for your argument. -
Quote:...how could you not know? There's a link on the launcher that says "patch notes" and the damn thing notifies you when a patch has been applied.Originally Posted by MisterD
Players are stupid huh? For not checking the patch notes religiously? How about all the people who don't even KNOW there are notes detailing every patch?
If they take accountability for being at fault for what they don't know because of it, fine. It's the ones who come here pitching a s***fit because of willful ignorance ( Which is exactly what choosing not to read the patch notes is. Note that "ignorance" is not an insult before you go off on that. Simply means lack of knowledge ) that are stupid.Quote:The people who got home after a hard day, updated while they made coffee, then sat down just wanting to PLAY, not read notes? -
Quote:Depends on the level you're doing it at, really. Show me how this is even remotely close to the rate at which you could amass A-merits with the SSA rewards. It's all relative. And, anything below 50, the conversion method can be pretty tedious and slow. It's still ridiculously more effort than the SSA was.Originally Posted by GavinRuneblade
Except that with the conversion you have both. Anything you do to earn the merits is getting you a solid chunk of the inf, and there is no way that you can reliably get 30m+ recipes every 50 merits. No one is that lucky. But always spending your 1 Amerit on Kinetic Combat D/R and selling them for 40-90m you will be turning a 20-70m profit every time. that's way better than the odd RNG gives you on drops. There are those who have spreadsheets tracking hundreds of random amerit rolls showing a very high profit after crafting and conversion fees. Enough that saving 2 and getting luck of the gambler is not in the ballpark.
So, I'll trust the numbers. 20m +50merits = profitable. And it's not difficult either. Do it once and you have the money to do it again plus some left over. -
Quote:Aside from the fact that it was a blatant and obvious deviation from the established method of earning said rewards?Originally Posted by Brillig
Bad design? Yes. Bug? No. There's no evidence that the original implementation wasn't exactly what it was supposed to be, Paragon just failed to think things through.
For the amount of effort generally required to amass both, not really. The sheer dumb luck of getting a rare IO recipe drop to make the money come quickly could also apply to simply getting the recipe you would have bought with the A-merits as a drop instead...Quote:Originally Posted by Brillig
This is actually untrue as well. 20 million + 50 reward merits => 1 AM is actually profitable. -
Quote:What's your point? My point is still valid: A practically trivial method of earning A-merits with no previous effort was a painfully obvious bug.Originally Posted by nytflyr
keep moving them goalposts
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Quote:Correction, then: There was no REASONABLE/WORTHWHILE way....Originally Posted by nytflyr
50 Reward Merits and 20 million inf. will net you an A-Merit without ever running a tip...
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Quote:No, they simply make the mistake of assuming that the players aren't stupid. Their bad, I guess.Originally Posted by MisterD
So, recently the sig rewards were changed, so you had to have confirmed your alignment (hero.villain) before you could pick the A merit.
Fair enough.
I don't mind the change but..NOWHERE does it actually mention, in game, that this needs to be done. Are the devs simply that slack, or stupid? Or both?
There was ZERO way of earning alignment merits without reinforcing alignment previously. Seemed pretty damn odd to me that the SSA's allowed it. Anyone who didn't fully expect this to be changed was stupid. Period. Anyone who CHOSE NOT TO READ THE PATCH NOTES where this was EXPLICITLY STATED can't complain that they weren't informed: The notice was there. The patcher said a patch was applied and a link on the patcher leads you to the patch notes. If you don't at least skim them, then it's your fault if you don't know the changes that were made. -
Quote:I'd say there's little reasonable doubt that it's unintentional. To the point where I don't get how anyone could even wonder if it WAS intentional...Originally Posted by Adeon Hawkwood
The only zones I know for sure are PI and The Hollows but I suspect that all zones have one. However, the PI and Hollows ones have been disabled in the current Beta server so I suspect that they are not an intended feature. The most likely explanation is that they are a feature used by the devs for internal testing that was accidentally left in the live build, I would not bet on it remaining.
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Quote:No, it doesn't apply the change to all costumes. The changes are made per costume. Thus you can have a character that goes from male to female to huge.Originally Posted by Bags
I looked into that, but it only sounds like it changes your base gender, height, and such, then applies those changes to all costumes. I can't find out for sure if this would fix the gender change for all costumes after the first one. And, I'm not sure I wanna spend the cash to find out and have it fail.
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Quote:You took a common phrase, that happened to be the name of a trademarked character, altered the spelling slightly, and made a character "inspired by" the trademarked character in question. Minor tweaks to the name do not move you from a "copycat" character to an "inspired by" character. Even if there are significant differences in the storyline, giving the character the same name with a slight tweak is absolutely crossing the line of "copycat".Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion
Tyger, if you are really trying to make a point , I do not understand it. Your comparison makes no sense. I took a common phrase in the english language. It could have been "Mud flats" Now suppose someone did a sketch about a black blues charafcter from the 1800s called "Mudy Flats" cool. Then, in making my stone Armor Tanker I liked the english phrase "Mud Flats", used it for inspiration, and called my character "Mud Flatner" According to your logic, no matter that I never read the Mudy Flats blues fiction, I am automatically copying some writer's work. Or perhaps you would argue I ripping off Star Trek because Flatner is too close to Shatner? This thread was better off dead.
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Quote:How is this relevant? I didn't say that I had your book. Merely that your logic would make what I said okay. WHy not, you know, reply to what's being said rather than putting words into people's mouths.Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion
In regards to the last four posts. You folks are trolling. Here is a great example.
Have you read my book? No. -
Quote:No, but MTV Networks ( Who own Comedy Central ) might. Because they're big enough (richards) to do so.Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion
I sincerely doubt Dave Chappelle is going to sue CoH over this.
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Quote:No, but apparently to you it's fine to write a book about a Vampire being interviewed by a reporter and call it "Interrogation With the Vampire".Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion
I paint, I paint original works. Has something like it never existed before? I wish. I play guitar and make up songs, original stuff. Is most of it based on 12 bar progressions you will find in most western songs in one of the 12 keys? My, yes. I have written a book (unpublished). Is it basically one of the 7 plot lines that exist. Oh, my yes. Worse, it's a vampire novel. (I know, right?)
Do I take one of Picasso's works and paint by number over a copy of it? Hmmm, no.
Do I take a Stones song, put it in a different key, change the words and say it's a new work. Hmmm, no.
Do I take Ann Rice's novel, change the character names, put it in California, and call it a fresh piece. Nope. -
Quote:Seems pretty clear to me.Originally Posted by JamesR1701A
Ah, that makes sense, but the message could be a bit clearer, or they could gray out the button to prevent me from trying to buy it, lol. You're trying to exceed the quantity of that item you're allowed to purchase. But, yeah, marking them in the store window would be nice.
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Quote:Except that's not a "to-may-to/to-mah-to issue". Inspired by takes elements from another character, but puts them into a unique character. A copy tries to duplicate the original character as closely as possible. There's no way the latter happens by accident. It can easily be avoided if you're not lazy.Originally Posted by Blue_Centurion
So yeah, I am inspired, copy, call it what you like. Glad to hear you never do, get over your genius self.