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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Samuel_Tow View Post
    3D is a gimmick that I hope would just die already
    It's not always a gimmick. Sometimes it's actually put to good use. Avatar was a good example. I hear the 3D version of Up actually did so as well. But, yes, in most cases, 3D is just there because it's the new hot thing and doesn't really add anything to the movie experience.

    I will say, though, that today's 3D is a lot better than the old redandblue glasses 3D.
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
    Well, I completely spaced and forgot to hit the late-late showing of the new Ghost Rider flick last night.

    So I go and look up tickets in my area for the non-3D version.
    Basically, unless I leave work early, there quite literally AREN'T any!

    Whiskey
    Tango
    Foxtrot
    ?

    So now, because people are figuring out what a ***tastic gimmick 3D is, the studios are basically going to force it on us unless we want to just take half a day off work to see it in the middle of the day or go in over a weekend?
    Don't sweat it. It's probably best for your sanity if you skip the movie anyway. Seriously, if I were in Gary Friedrich's shoes, I'd be showing up at Marvel's office with a shotgun for whoever approved that movie. The first one was better, and that's saying something. ( Granted, the motorcycle in the first one counted for a LOT )
  3. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stormbird View Post
    Oh, bravo. Really, I'm heartbroken.

    You DO understand that's a specific reply to a specific post from certain someone that throws smilies into everything and seems to INSIST on inserting herself into every third post in a thread, right? Not directed to you in any way, shape or form? Or did that go over your head?
    Did I say it was directed at me? But anyone who dismisses the opinion of someone who happens to be taking Paragon's side as an "apologist" without even actually bothering to refute their argument isn't worth listening to.
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by MrHassenpheffer View Post
    Thing is...Minors play this game...

    What are the laws about gambling involving minors?
    Irrelevant, because this doesn't fit the LEGAL DEFINITION of gambling - that being where money is staked and money is the prize ( Or anything that can be directly exchanged for money such as poker chips ). Otherwise, M:tG cards would be illegal.
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Stormbird View Post
    Stick your smiley somewhere and think about it a bit. The statement seems a bit straightforward if you're not trying to be a dev apologist like you typically are .
    Well, you've just demonstrated the worth of your opinion with that last bit. Thanks, I won't sweat it anymore.
  6. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
    Actually, both are unethical. However I've not said that the developers are deceiving anyone. That you think I am saying that they are out to lie to their customers is your fabrication, not mine.

    Edit:
    If I have said that the developers are trying to deceive players with these packs, please point it out.

    And for the record, I consider both lying to the customers and to make a predatory scheme like this to be both morally and ethically bankrupt.
    If you look hard enough, EVERYTHING about this game is "preying on psychological habits of the customer". Random chance with uncertain outcome/rewards? That's every attack, every mob defeated in hopes of a purple drop/shard/thread, every trial completed hoping for a rare, etc. That's how all MMOs operate, it's how they keep people playing. Trying to make it sound like some sinister plot is just plain pathetic.
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
    I'm not implying anything of the sort with that statement. The statement is clear: No one, not even the developers, can say with certainty how much the Elemental Order costume set actually costs. The same goes for the Black Wolf pet.

    However deceiving the customer and preying on psychological habits of the customer are two completely different things.
    Yes. One is unethical, the other isn't. In spite of your weak attempts to word it in a way to make it sound like it is.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by TrueGentleman View Post
    It's hardly active deception, but letting Paragon Studios off the hook with "let the buyer beware" is just handwaving.
    "Letting Paragon Studios off" WHAT hook? They're not on any hook. There's absolutely nothing shady going on here, and trying to twist it into a situation that looks like there is is, frankly, rather shady on YOUR part.
  9. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
    As long as you can't say how many points the Elemental Order costume set costs, my statement that it isn't clear how much the costume actually costs remains valid.
    And my statement that you're desperately reaching remains. You're implying with that statement that they're somehow deceiving the customer, which is utter ( udder? ) BS.
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Nemesis76 View Post
    I remember a time when $15 a month got you the "current" powersets, costume pieces, and new content at no extra cost.

    Oh the good ol' days.
    And I remember when new power sets and costumes came out a couple times a year at best. Oddly, that was the same time...

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    Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
    Bull. It could be as little as 4 packs or it could be as many as 100 packs. No one knows, not even the designers.
    Yes, but the buyer knows he's got no guarantees there. Thus, it is perfectly clear what he is buying. Random chance. Or, if you prefer, gamble. But not the illegal kind. So to say that the buyer is being "misled" or that Paragon isn't being clear on what they're selling is a desperate reach.
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Snow Globe View Post
    It is not clear how much the costume set will actually cost a player.
    That's a really pathetically desperate reach and you damn well know it.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Wil_B_Profound View Post
    Yes, you are. And what does it cost you?
    $15/month.

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    Originally Posted by joshdex View Post
    Did you use preview? That's obnoxiously big.
    Intentional. Because it was pretty obvious the person I was replying to didn't see it and I wanted to make sure he did.
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
    Considering that most of the rest is chaff to me?
    Is the alternate, non-costume drop stuff useful? Sure, not debating that.
    Would I have straight-bought them as separate items? Nope.

    So, just because I'm given my lifetime supply of Stuff{TM} doesn't mean I consider it "worth it". Again, I'd much rather have the option to buy the costume pack, even at an artificially inflated price than wangle my way through Magic: The CoH'ening.
    I'm not talking "value to you". I'm talking retail value. Obviously to anyone not intentionally trying to spin-doctor.
  14. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hyperstrike View Post
    Actually no. Even with "guaranteed" prizes, it's still gambling. The same way any "collectible" game is. You're putting money down for a "chance" to get something you want.

    Granted, the odds as you go along are better for getting specific items. But it's still down to the RNG what you're getting.

    And yeah, it's your money, do as you will. Simply do it with your eyes open.
    By that logic, every time you engage in combat in the game, you're gambling. Every swing you take or the enemy takes, the results are left up to random chance. If you want to be nitpicky technical on the definition, you don't have to be spending money each swing for it to be gambling...

    But, here's something to consider: Even the absolute worst draw from a Super Pack has more than a buck's worth of consumables, merits, and such. Kind of a piss-poor gambling system when you're guaranteed to get more than your money's worth every time, isn't it?
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Astra View Post
    It may not be to you. But everyone plays for a different reason. And I'm a girl. I happen to like my clothing choices. To boot, it should -not- be impossible to get all items. I want to be able to make my hero or villain as I see fit. So yes. It -is- a deep part of the game. And yah, a lot of people want certain items, so it still has merit. We should get what we want.
    It's not impossible. You have a choice: Spend the money on the packs or don't. Hell, keep your VIP and burn some of your free points every month. Or your reward token. You'll still get all the costume pieces ( relatively fast with the drop odds. Most get them all in 15-20 packs... ). Just not right away. But, I guess patience is too much to ask from the younger generation these days.

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    Also: Business Offering? Are you kidding me? This is a -game- Why do I want to spend $100 a month on something like this? I think you need a trip to reality
    Yes, business. Did you not realize that's what Paragon/NCSoft was? The game is the product they produce. Everything on the market? Those are products they're producing as well.

    If anyone here needs a trip to reality, it's yourself. $100 a month? Not even remotely necessary. If you don't want to spend that much, don't. Getting bent out of shape because there's some totally optional content ( that's, really, all fluff ) for additional money is just childish and selfish.


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by Astra View Post
    Define gambling: gam·ble (gmbl)v. gam·bled, gam·bling, gam·bles
    v.intr.1. a. To bet on an uncertain outcome, as of a contest.
    b. To play a game of chance for stakes.

    2. To take a risk in the hope of gaining an advantage or a benefit.
    3. To engage in reckless or hazardous behavior: You are gambling with your health by continuing to smoke.

    v.tr.1. To put up as a stake in gambling; wager.
    2. To expose to hazard; risk: gambled their lives in a dangerous rescue mission.

    n.1. A bet, wager, or other gambling venture.
    2. An act or undertaking of uncertain outcome; a risk: I took a gamble that stock prices would rise.

    You -are- gambling on these items.
    Key words: LEGAL CODE!!!!!
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Badaxe View Post
    Actually in some states in my country, it's not only unethical it's also illegal.
    Not this argument again. Get a fracking clue. This isn't gambling by the legal definition. If it were, friggin' Pokemon cards would be illegal.
  17. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Astra View Post
    Well, as it seems my thread has been closed I will post my reply here.

    To the person who said "You simply do not have to buy the boxes and miss out on the set."

    Are you -kidding- me? The whole thing about the game is to have all the pieces to create unique superheroes. -Why- do I, a -paying- customer, want to miss out on something I pay over $15 for? I am sorry again, but that is -not- satisfactory. I like completeness, I like having all of my costume pieces, I don't even play the game as much as I fiddle around with the character builder, this is where I find the most fun. So again, no. I am -not- happy with this.

    I find these armour pieces to be very cool, and perfect for some of my hero designs, I do want them. But to have to spend -another- $15 to get them? I'm giving you a big -NO-.
    First, the point of the game is most certainly NOT to have all the costume pieces. Seriously, that statement is just plain idiotic.

    What is with people getting so offended by a BUSINESS offering a purely optional but desirable product to entice people to spend their money? The whole point of a business is to do just that, you know. Welcome to this little thing we call "capitalism".
  18. Quote:
    Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
    Technically, we've gotten to see 4 new darkness-themed powersets upcoming in the next Issue on the Beta Server, so that's kind of like being in the dark.
    /em gibbsmack
  19. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Golden Girl View Post
    We're not in the dark
    Oh, god, no, we're not. And it boggles me that anyone can even begin to think we are...
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by DarkGob View Post
    The hilarious part of this complaint is that there is already a price cap on the market.
    The fact that the buyer determines the price more than the seller is control enough. It's not the sellers that are inflating the prices, it's the buyers.
  21. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Rajani Isa View Post
    That's "canned" police chatter.
    Yup. A pretty generic stock sound effect.
  22. Quote:
    Originally Posted by JKCarrier View Post
    Positron said in one of the Ustreams that he's opposed to this, because SGs are not intended to be solo content. So don't hold your breath.
    And, yet, the answer we get when we ask for individual player housing is that we should make a solo SG and make a basic base if we want a private "house".
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kheldarn View Post
    Dave Ingram: How about exploring an auction house selling cap? I don't blame people for wanting to make money, but there are groups that are controlling the prices on certain items.

    City of Heroes: We have no plans for an auction house price cap.
    Thank god. It always irritates me when a minority of players seems insistent that the devs need to step in and manipulate prices on the player market just because they can't afford something.
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by VoodooGirl View Post
    Another item for the menu: Teenaged Mutant Bacon Turtles[/center]
    Now those do look good. But the bacon's actually -cooked- in those pictures.
  25. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Winterminal View Post
    At a certain point, imagination has to come into play.
    This a million times. It's been something that I've thrown out in the past. People whining that there aren't any "natural" travel powers, but refuse to justify it as anything that's not specifically displayed on the screen. Folks, they can't code in every single possible option and angle to "Manifest" a power. Granted, they've been adding stuff in lately, but it would have been fine without them. We don't need an actual motorcycle graphic to justify superspeed as being a motorcycle, for example.