Turgenev

Mr. Freedom 2011/Subscribed Nonstop Since April 2004
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  1. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kheldarn View Post
    I've said it before, and I'll say it again: The folks are Guardian are awesome, because if a MO fails, oh well, **** happens. If it fails in the first mission, restart. Otherwise, push on, and try again some other time.
    And that's how you win these things. (Maybe instead of red text saying "CHALLENGE FAILED", you should get "**** HAPPENS, BRO." )
  2. Quote:
    Originally Posted by FireWyvern View Post
    You need to find 7 other badgers, on the same server/side, that can team at the same time. You all need to be free for a long time, knowing you won't be interrupted. (normal STF can be done in less then hour, most Mo i've seen took 2h-3h at least.)
    FYI: You can "break" and come back to it at any time. Yes, your toon is locked to that TF, but so what? If you're tired, you agree on when to come back, you come back nice and refreshed, and own the run. Wanna do something else? Break team, try again another time. Yes, it can be a time commitment, but have you seen the Shard TFs?

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    My probablem is that Mo badges stack almost all the type of "difficulty". And it's often just frustrating.

    Since it can be clearly one person's fault, there's often griefing.
    If you have the wrong attitude when you fail, yes, it's frustrating. I quoted those two comments together because ultimately, your problem isn't a mechanics problem: It's a social problem of coping with those mechanics constructively. If you have the right people, with the right attitude, a failure is just that: Whoops, died, my bad, move on and try again next time. If you have some jerk on the team who decides "I hate you all for not following my ideas" and suicides, that's not a mechanics issue, that's a jerkwad issue.

    I can write papers on having the right attitude when gaming (Twixt? You there?). Sure, it frustrates you when you fail. You can either let it get to you, or you can turn it into a learning experience for everyone. Do that, and it's not a failure: It's "practice".

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    I also don't really get why people say: "It's challenging, it's fun."
    There's a lot less frustrating ways to find a challenge.
    Frustrating for you, not for all of us. Again, it's all about approach.

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    And if you really wanted the biggest challenge, why not try STF or LRSF , on +4, while debuffed and with the enemies buffed, no temps, no insps and no enhancements?
    That would surely be challenging, no?
    Make the badge, and I'll gun for it. But your definition of challenge there is pretty stupid.

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    P.S. I've got the BSF/khan , LRSF, STF, and red-ITF Mo badges. It might have only taken a few try (or just one) to get them. It's finding good players that want to bother with it that's the hardest for me. I've had to wait months before i could get on one for some.
    Seriously: I feel for you. I'm lucky that I know a stack of people who are not only game skilled but extraordinarily good natured to boot. (And yeah, I'm on Freedumb, imagine that, haters.) I can't help you find those people, unless you're on my server. But you can certainly step up and try to find those people yourself. Start a signup sheet, "calm people only need apply", then work with 'em. If you're frustrated with the quality of temperaments on your server, I'm sure others are frustrated too. Work on pooling those together and rising to the occasion. I have no instructions on how to find good natured people, other than just "start looking".
  3. Slap me down for this. Jonna Hex, demon/thermal MM please.
  4. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Beef_Cake View Post
    Yeah, tell me about it. I figured I'd let everyone know and I get neg rep... I'm not the one who added it to the game, don't chop my head off....lol
    Gotta love Anonymous(tm). I'll pass around some rep to make you feel better for when I get the badge this week. (Maybe.)
  5. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Silas View Post
    All issues with the
    Mo badges, be it have or have not,
    stem from taking them too seriously.
    QFT, and making it a sorta haiku, so it's prettier.

    (I know the meter's off. Just run with it, you minmax poets.)
  6. Nah, don't sweat it, dear. It was my fault last night. I fell asleep watching Mythbusters reruns with Tina on the couch post-dinner, and then a new Big Bang Theory had come on. It finished at 10pm, but none of the dishes had been done by that point, so I went into Dr. Turgenev mode and cleaned up 3 pans, a veggie steamer, plates, glasses, silverware, and gotten a wash rolling in about 8 minutes.

    At the 9 minute mark, you guys had already rolled. XD S'ok, I just treated my dishes as a Master run, and I failed. Better luck next time!
  7. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Master-Blade View Post
    I'm kinda on the fence about this one.

    I like them because they are another challenge. I wouldn't mind if there was a "Mo" for every TF, though I admit it would be a pain in the neck to go back through them all to get the extra badge... so one or two added from time to time is probably better than all at once.

    That having been said, I will offer the opposing viewpoint as well. Though the group of people I usually run with just likes to have fun together and we don't really take any failed attempts personally, it's not a typical scenario.

    It seems that on the larger scale and many PuG attempts can end with hatred of the person who dies first, even if it's not even that person's fault. That person is sometimes harassed and kept out of any future attempts, especially if it happens more than once. People get uptight and freak out about little details that don't matter and/or things nobody has any control over.

    Some people try to form teams with specific ATs and builds. They want you to be "IO'd out" or have other very specific qualities they are looking for.

    That can make it very hard and stressful for some people to have fun playing through a Mo attempt, and people with non-optimal toons are sometimes left out completely.

    Maye if the badge was awarded on an individual basis instead of being reliant on the rest of the team surviving as well, then somebody else dying would be their own fault, and they would be the only one losing out on the badge. Then again, that policy could be exploited for perma "venge-bait" and defeats the purpose of being awarded for working as a team to survive together.

    In the end, I'm not wishing for more to be added, but if they arise... I'll happily step up to the challenge, and anybody is welcome to join me regardless of build or experience. With enough practice, any toon can get the badge eventually.
    MB summarized the issue, and my general feelings on it, pretty succinctly. I'll just modify it by saying I'm NOT on the fence and that I like running them, but more for the fun factor with "any build out there" rather than minmaxed teams. Freedom's Horde crew is really good about this, and makes it a joy to do the Master runs in general (barring a few bad apples that end up eliminating themselves).

    Why do I like the Master runs? Because they're a challenge. Some are certainly painful, but with a team that has their wits about them, the problems are greatly minimized. It IS luck of the draw sometimes with most deaths: Good players realize this, and keep on keepin' on.

    At the end of the day, if you treat it as something that MUST be achieved no matter what, you'll hate working towards this badge. If you set up every TF as a Master run (set to no deaths, no temp powers), and just go with it, you may be surprised to find out that one day, you'll get it without having tried very hard at all.

    It's a perspective thing, in my book.
  8. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Willowpaw View Post
    Since this isn't a radio mission, I am guessing RadioFreedom would not be an appropriate channel to put out the call for help in.
    The "Radio" part of the name doesn't meant it's just for radio missions. It's just a name for the global channel, like "BMT for Champion" is for Champion server, "Kitty Lovers of America" for Virtue, etc (I keed, I keed...). Feel free to advert anything you want in RF2009 or the other variants listed.
  9. I will most assuredly NOT do dishes tonight, thereby missing this opportunity for teaming.

    (EDIT: Go figure, I don't do dishes, but I get a call from my mom to talk about everything in her life, right then. Love you mom.)
  10. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EU_Damz View Post
    Yeah i noticed you have a fair bit of players who like to charge in to battle constantly without any warning [and thus needing instant attention]. Though at least it keeps me busy as a healer. I actually feel more of a hero for saving a team of noobs
    Welcome to Freedom, where Plan A is always "GET 'EM!", and Plan B is "hosp".
  11. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kotchie View Post
    Well...we gave it a trial go last night, and it went better than expected to be sure.

    The main deaths we had were at the green mitos. Seems we had a good system down there for the second run (taunt the mito and hammer it with holds until it dies) until a untimely death with just a couple mitos left derailed it.

    The rest of the TF was pretty easy, at least with the teams last night. Both were PuG's and both had extremely talented players, so this can definately be done.

    Looking forward to this evening for sure, one way or the other Hami is going down
    Set this up for around 10pm Eastern and I'd be in good position to help.
  12. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Beef_Cake View Post
    Just to let you all know...

    Master Of Lady Grey Task Force

    It was completed today at 12:30am - 05-17-10

    So it can be done, best wishes to all who attmept it.
    *tips his hat* Well played, sir. I'll give this an exploratory whirl over the next few weeks (too damn busy right now), but thanks for sharing your victory with the rest of the hopefuls.
  13. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Kotchie View Post
    Is anyone interested in setting up for a run at the MoLGTF? Post here with toon/global and powersets, and lets make it happen!!

    Come on guys, we can't let Pinnacle show us up!!
    I go away for a weekend, and people just go nuts with the LGTF.

    Grats to Beef on this. I could sign up for this, although my time for the next few weeks will be somewhat restricted. I definitely can't make this Tuesday (Tu and Th are verboten for evening runs). Fri/Sat would be better in general, and Fri evening ~9-10pm Eastern would be best for me.

    Try hooking up with E-Man and the Horde on this? We're all Master addicts here, so that'd be a good pool to sign up with.

    GL on organizing this run, Kotchie.
  14. I'd love to, but I'm entertaining my adopted niece this weekend before she disappears to Argentina for study abroad for the next six months. Good luck! If she bails cuz she's off getting drunk somewhere, I'll raise a flag and request invite!
  15. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EU_Damz View Post
    Finally . . . . you people have people who hang around atlas charging people for a SB?
    We just do that for the obvious Eurotourists.

    (...you saw that? Huh. I suddenly have a new scam idea.)

    (Oh, drogoh. Hell. Go to it.)
  16. Quote:
    Originally Posted by EU_Damz View Post
    Seen a good few players so far though obviously but love the fact that so far it seems 8/10 people on this server needs a constant healer on them
    They're just taking pity on you for rolling a healer in the first place. Don't want you to be bored an' stuff.

    Glad you're digging it here. If you feel like chiming in on one of the Horde runs on your day off (they'd be typically 3am for you, if you're GMT), make sure you make some noise about showing up, or hell, we could do something on a weekend afternoon (evening for you) just to be nice.

    We do that here. Y'know, make nice to server newbies. No, srsly.

    (I'm guessing you hail from Union then?)
  17. Giggity. Jonna Hex, Demon/Thermal MM, if you please.
  18. I think I can fill for this. Gun Father (DP/Fire Blaster) as an alt, please.
  19. I think I can do this. Gun Father (DP/fire blaster), please.
  20. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Hestis View Post
    Thanks for the info. I guess it helps to be looking in the right place
    You're welcome. FYI, all the "badge missions" in Ouro are like that: They're a tier higher than what the contact is rated for. Check out Paragonwiki.com for more info as well.
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    "Dude. LFT?"
  22. This is in the Ouro flashback tree under 40-45, under the name "B4nKbUsTah".

    (And oddly, I have the mission starred out as if I did it, but I don't see the badge... guess I'll run it again)
  23. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Newty View Post
    I just finished LGTF with 7 attackers and 1 empath.

    It took around 1hour 42mins I think it was, There was no controller or holders within the team.
    For the whole TF, or just the Hami mission?
  24. Quote:
    Originally Posted by PowerFlame View Post
    I haz purples!
    A shot o' penicillin will clear that right up, brother.