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...or, on the other hand, you can stop looking at the game through nerf-colored glasses, and acknowledge that some changes *do* have positive benefits, even if they also have some negative ones.

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well its good to know a billion inf + build is performing ok...I mean come on... your damage wouldnt have stemed from your "pets" anyway, its from freezing rain, frostbite and copious amounts of epic blasts thrown which can be throw much more often when running so much +recharge that hasten becomes perma, and given that you need BETTER than hasten to get perma hasten its not really a suprise that such an extreme build can chew things up without pets making a difference. Your post is like a fire/kin saying the epic blast nerf doesnt affect controllers much, it doesnt affect fire/kins as they have damage oozing from every pore but tell a earth/ff that they needed their damage reduced with a straight face.

A "real world" build is hit a lot harder than an elitists super slotted death machine.

[/ QUOTE ]Firstly, a good portion of my damage comes from Tornado and LS. It's true that some comes from other sources...but Ice Control is a pretty low-damaging set. LS does contribute to my damage, and if the power was "ruined forever", it would be noticable.

Secondly, this is to counter all the people saying "Oh noes! I spent all this time and money on this build and now it's worthless!"

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Yep, that was kind of my point. You can't look at a nerf to one power in isolation -- it has to be considered in light of the performance of the other 22 powers at your disposal.

[/ QUOTE ]My Perma-Hastened Ice/Storm performs just fine on Test. She's been making mincemeat of MA missions, including getting to round 3 of Arcanaville's Scrapper Challenge. I'm not an obsessive number-cruncher, so I can't tell you the DPS on Test vs Live or any such nonsense...but she didn't seem to be underperforming one bit. Lightning Storm was firing a little less frequently...but I was still killing things at about the same pace. *shrug*

I don't have a Storm defender...but I'll see if I can get my friend to take his AV-soloing Storm/Elec defender on Test.

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I just tested these awful changes using the ninjas. It doesnt help them at all. They still get stuck in the loop and spam darts. The only way they dont is if I use the goto aggressive command or teleport foe or if the critter closes to melee. Otherwise they just spam darts.

[/ QUOTE ]...you must use some pretty stupid ninjas, because mine behave just fine.

Or maybe you're so dead-set against this change (like any change to the game...) that you're going to say that it fails no matter what.

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and fire blast now shoots fluffy bunnies in PvP.

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You're assuming that the change really did that. From what I've seen only the Bruiser is behaving better.

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Really? Because that goes against other people's reports in this thread...

[/ QUOTE ]I know Grave Knights and Jack Frost are both acting much better with this change.

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Sparky accepts them but post nerf gets absolutely no benefit from the "recharge intensive" part of the set or the recharge aspect that's a part of the IOs in these sets.

[/ QUOTE ]As has been said several dozen times already, that recharge will *still* allow you to get the pet out more often. Which was the point of these sets in the first place.

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Again why does it even matter, its not like storm defenders are soloing the STF or something. I could see if that was the case but I seriously doubt a single storm defender is doing that right now. What so significant about these powers? Maybe I am just using them wrong or something I cant see how they can be leveraged to the point of soloing lvl 54 AVs. Just what exactly are the devs afraid that LS, VS, Gun Drone are going to do?

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So...if something can't solo the STF, it's perfectly fine and needs no adjustments? That's the only benchmark for power you think there should be?

*blinkblink*

...you've left me speechless.

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How long ago was IO introduced? Am I to believe that the dev DID NOT know -recharge work with pets? If not, then I think the dev needs to spend more time PLAYING the game rather than datamining.

[/ QUOTE ]The devs *do* play the game. Quite a bit, I've heard.

BUt this isn't something the average playerbase knows. Ask a random person in the game what slotting recharge in their pet does, and I'm pretty certain that 9 times out of 10, the answer will be "Makes the pet come up faster."

There's nothing "intuitive" that makes one think that it makes the pets' powers come up faster. The logical response is that it does what recharge does in every other power...makes that power come up faster.

And since the effects of rech are largely unnoticable unless you already know about what the recharge does, (and/or have *massive* levels of recharge) and decide to number crunch...it's not surprising.

Besides which...just because they're now fixing it doesn't mean that they just recently knew about it. It's not like there's a big switch that says "NERF PETS". They tried to come up with alternatives for this fix, so they have to have known about it for a while.



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My main toon is an Ice/Storm controller and in all honesty, I find storm very flashy and very unimpressive unless you love lots of aggro.

[/ QUOTE ]My main toon is also an Ice/Storm...and she loves extra aggro, because she has so many tricks to deal with them. Throw a Frostbite and a Tornado at them to keep them busy...throw an Ice Slick and Freezing Rain at them. I try not to use Lightning Storm for this, since that's generally the mob I'm dealing with...but if you use Ice very properly to synergize with it., Storm is *incredible*.

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I couldn't even imagine playing the storm set on a defender with no way to mitigate the knockback with immoblizes and holds and in my opinion really isn't even a viable defender set.

[/ QUOTE ]On the other hand, my friend's Elec/Storm defender has soloed AVs...



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Lightning Storm could have been fixed very simply at any time since I7, by making the changes on the power that were just made (and are not yet made to Defender LS).

[/ QUOTE ]Just because they have a fix now doesn't mean they've always been aware of that fix. The devs aren't omniscient...and it does take them time to fix problems. Sometimes more than we would like, but it still does.




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Honest question; why would they lie?

[/ QUOTE ]Thats the million dollar question we are trying to get the real answer to. I still think there is more to this change than what they are telling us. Because its completely retarded to nerf powers that are already subpar.

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Of course you do, because you're crazy and think there's always an ulterior motive.

[/ QUOTE ]You mean..the devs aren't really out to destroy the game and kill everything and everyone EvilRyu has ever loved...or even liked a little?

You...just blew my mind, man.

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Just to be fair here. If the use has gone down such that folks are removing the enhancements from their slots, doesn't it also follow that their market value has diminished?

[/ QUOTE ]It's still fake money...and those IOs are still of use to many others that don't care about this issue, or aren't affected negatively by this issue.

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*sighs* Sadly, I can't find the webpage that discussed that meme anymore...

[/ QUOTE ] http://www.mrc-cbu.cam.ac.uk/people/...vis/Cmabrigde/

[/ QUOTE ]Ah, thank you. *bookmarks*

*sighs* Sadly, I can't find the webpage that discussed that meme anymore...but suffice it to say that that only works because the majority of English words are 4 and 5 letters long. In that sentence, a good number of the words aren't even altered.

But try deciphering something like this using that "logic".

Sreufuuopls and eiuuoacloqs plieoorshages fulerenqty bcmoee dtambioslcoebud and uinrscbalende wehn desraraingd tulshy.



However, on topic...just use a synonym. It sucks that you can't use it...but come up with something else that works just as well. *shrug*

People can run Posi in a little more than an hour. People can run the ITF in a half hour. Yet both got buffed. And I could go on and on with more examples.

...I think your complaints are a bit unfounded.

Er...no. Read again.

He's saying that they didn't have enough data to fully know how well people were doing at the arcs.

The Nictus Insurrection arc, for example, is hard to "get better" at, to a certain point. Other than stealthing, there's not much you can do to speed it up, since it's a pretty short arc. It's a pretty damn easy arc, even if you don't steath (Assuming you can defeat Nosferatu). But the numbers from few number of people did it didn't show that, thus the high rewards.

And the new numbers reflect that. They show the time that should be easily manageable, even without stealthing.

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Double Rewards:
During Double XP Weekend players obtain double rewards in the following categories: XP, Prestige, & Influence/Infamy. Double rewards do not apply to salvage, inspirations, day jobs, or merits.

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No, no, and no. XP, inf, and prestige is all that's doubled.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see anyone asking for it to recharge in 5 minutes or for every mission.

[/ QUOTE ]If you look at the post I was responding to, you'll see exactly that.
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Well thats not how it was originally advertised to us. My thinking on this was that it would be a perk that can be used to to tp you to every mission. I was thinking it would have like a 5 minute recharge or something.

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Yeah, it would be nice, but since its not, I don't see me paying out any money for it either.

[/ QUOTE ]*shrug* And that's your option. There are some really nice costume parts that come with the pack too, though, yaknow.

Wait...what?

You would have had to travel the second route anyway. How does that subtract from the time you saved from the first mission?

And Zombie_Man once again shows how to make competent, well thought-out feedback.

I'm almost certain the power is unaffected by recharge bonuses. It certainly didn't seem to come back any faster on my 'troller with perma-hasten.

While I think it's likely to stay at 2 hours, given the increased benefits over any of those powers, such as being able to teleport to anywhere in the Shard, for example...1 hour is at least a reasonable request.

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By the time you're doing missions in IP, you have a travel power most likely decked out with at least SOs. You save MAYBE a couple of minutes every 2 HOURS using this power. That, to me, is useless.

[/ QUOTE ]Plus the travel time from wherever you started to your transportation mode of choice to get to IP. Plus even more travel time if the initial start was from, say, Dark Astoria or Crey's Folly which has no direct route to IP. Plus some possible zoning...

There's more potential here than just a couple minutes.

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Well thats not how it was originally advertised to us.

[/ QUOTE ]It was advertised as a power that teleports you to the mission door. That's what we got.

A five minute cooldown would be insanely overpowered. That's up every single mission. If you can't see the problem with that...well, then I wouldn't really be that surprised. But most people would.

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Agreed. 2 hours is way too much for a power like this. Even 30 minutes would be kinda pushing it, but it would be acceptable. 2 hours renders it a basically useless power.

[/ QUOTE ]...how does that make it useless? Just because you can't use it for every single mission doesn't make the times you can use it be very nice. Like bypassing the 2-mile trip to the far corner of IP.

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everything else (hunt, go speak to someone or click on something) - you flicker out and back in where you were, wasting the use of the power

[/ QUOTE ]Actually, I tried this a little bit ago, and it just gives you an error message saying it must be a door mission. No wasted power.

It's not something that's going to get you to every single mission. It's not designed for that.

It's designed for the times you have to go from the far corner of Dark Astoria to the far end of IP. Or the times you can't find the mission in the underground tunnels of Faultline/Brickstown.

This isn't to say a lower time wouldn't be nice...but I really don't see it happening.

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If you have a free respec banked and know another one is coming you can use your banked respec with confidence that if you are unsatisfied you can undo the changes in short order. With little notice of the grants a lot of players cannot make use of their banked respec and for the most part miss out on a free respec.

[/ QUOTE ]They've had two weeks to use the freespec they were granted...and a week (I think) since Posi announced there would be another one.

If the respec was really needed, why wouldn't it have already been used? And if you don't really need the respec...then what the heck is the problem?

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and they may have adjusted the table to close after it asplodes now.

[/ QUOTE ]I kept it open after it exploded last night...so it's still doable.

For the record, I find closing and reopening the window just a bit before it explodes to be fairly reliable. Or at least it seems that way...

The "product or service" is a functioning base. That's what you're paying rent for. No matter how much you may want to whine about it.

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I am operating with my past of playing the game when Bases just showed up. When 2 people played the game in SG, and watched as the prestige dried up because you either have to make a choice to play in SG mode, or you play to make Infamy.

[/ QUOTE ]...well, considering you can now get prestige *and* inf up until 50, I don't see this as a problem.

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The 2000 could easily be 20,000 or 200,000.

[/ QUOTE ]No, it can't. The max rent you can *possibly* pay under this new system is 2400...and that's if you for some reason decide to have all 6 Empowerment Stations.

That's the maximum ever possible.

Read that sentence verrrry carefully.

As Cathulhu, that amount of prestige is trivial, even for a one-person SG.

Is this somehow hard for you to understand?