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Quote:And this is why Dahjee and I don't share bridges. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see TS and HD removed from zone. However, my concern is that "IF" and that's a very big if; the developers ever decide to revisit pvp mechanics, it would most likely be once more. I would much prefer the developers use that time to repair pvp than simply remove TS and HD.Originally Posted by _Velociteh_
It sounds like you are promoting the devs doing absolutely nothing to the current system which is pretty absurd. If that is not what you are arguing than I would at least like to hear what you think should be done instead.
If you are just arguing the devs don't change anything and leave the system as it is then you are just promoting the developer's continuing to be really bad at developing this game. -
Quote:No, the statement was purposely general; hence the use of the pronoun 'anyone' and not the more specific 'I'.Originally Posted by Xanatos
I thought you were asking about yourself?
I'm not a huge fan of passive-aggression though and I like to think you're above that as well. -
Quote:Funny, you don't come across as someone who lacks any Xan. d;DOriginally Posted by Xanatos
Self-esteem.
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Quote:Hemm, I don't agree with you. We could remove the mez rule tomorrow HD/TS roll back DR, reset speed cap and resist to what it was pre-i13 and people would be raging about the holds/slows/and how lolsquishie their blasters are.Originally Posted by hemmingway3
Now that comment about team-based cooperative play: That is exactly what I (and many of the PvP community, past, present, and potential) want out of this game. That kind of system makes perfect send for an MMOs PvP.... this is a class based game after all. Many who try to/do play this game competitively, as I do, understand how very, very well that type of game-play would fit this game if done properly. At worst, the current terrible (fiteklub) mechanics could be left as options in arena, but I think that a balance could definitely be found if it were actually sought by competent individuals.
You take away HD and TS and it's still (superior damage > everything else) because DR still hinders buffs, debuffs recharge and heals. There's no balance unless the balance you are referring to is superior damage==superior damage.
I see more fiteclubbers dueling in arena on freedom than cooperative pvp. People enjoy this damage spam fiteclub style pvp. -
Quote:Hey, keyboard psychology as if psychology needed any more of an affirmation that it's a pseudoscience.Originally Posted by MrLiberty
I'd imagine they'd want a hobby that doesn't reflect the poor quality of their life outside of a video game. d;D
Playing video games is one thing, trying to be an jackass to as many people as possible in them just hints at a very sad person behind the keyboard looking to lash out at the world they feel in some way has wronged them.
Some people blow off steam by exercising, playing sports or beating their wives.
I like trash-talking in zone after a long day of work/school. I don't make personal attacks I'm just obnoxious and juvenile.
It's a video game, it's not IRL I'm not trying to make friends or win a popularity contest and I certaintly don't try to build psychological profiles of people over the internet. -
Quote:We also didn't have DR or the Mez fix or this annoying as hell speed cap(lackof) that renders slows meaningless or resist vs everything...Originally Posted by info
Melee vs ranged wasnt really a problem back then.. At least not from what I had seen.
It would pretty much be the same as it is now, except a few more sets would be viable.
Though if people really wanted to test this..go to the arena...where you have the option to turn this off..
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Quote:I can farm NPCs and PCs for rare loot while being a complete ****** to someone I will never have to meet irl, ever.Originally Posted by Xanatos
All dat PVE content in RV. Nom nom nom.
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Quote:I'm not going to hold my breath or keep asking the devs what they already know most want.Originally Posted by Fiery-Enforcer
That's the whole point in case you didn't know, to remove them from zones. People are asking for that because it's the simplest change, they can literally flip a switch to change it.
You can't really change most of the other stuff without changing the entire system.
It's stickied 4 times for christ sakes. -
Quote:I will lead the chorus of trash talking the LoLleagueKids that come into zone. Zoners have no interest in being gud. Just drop your recipes on the way out of zone.Originally Posted by hemmingway3
People in zone will just as soon berate an arena player as they would a droner... It's difficult to have a discussion in broadcast about the ongoing league (or anything) when it is so cluttered with "mad cuz bad" and "omfg u so noob." Partially for that reason, there are moderated forums here and a Guildportal site for the league.
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I still find it funny that people think removing TS and HD would be like waving some magical F*ing wand. First off it would only help for zone play; we can remove TS and HD in arena. You'd still have the issue of DR, shields, mez, lack of any real speed cap,elude, etc, etc.
The truth is if pvp mechanics were balanced around a team based system of cooperative play; most of you would be frothing at the mouth for the devs to bring back this fiteclubbers paradise system where damage is king.
But keep screaming to have HD and TS removed. I'm sure the devs will eventually read and care. d;D -
Quote:name calling. Someones irritated.Originally Posted by Xanatos
Hey brainiac, the reason you can't search for "pvp" is because the term is too short. You can't search for "pve" either.
What a horrible search tool. Hasn't even been set up to find commonly used acronyms under or equal to three characters. -
Hey Zwillinger if you're reading this. Why can't I use the search tool to search for anything related to keyword pvp?
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Quote:No, I'm telling you to ask them yourself. They've posted previously about pvp not being on the back burner and pvp not being a priority before. Unfortunately they've removed the possibility to search any dev post relating to pvp. It has also been mentioned that pvp is "working as intended." The best way to get an answer is to get it directly from the horses mouth.Originally Posted by Xanatos
So you just made it up? Cool.
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Quote:Ask them yourself. Conveniently enough any search result with the keyword pvp turns up no results; try it out it's hilarious.Originally Posted by Xanatos
No i mean source where they said that PVP isn't worthwhile. Link me to a quote.
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Quote:That's an oversimplification of the problem. Wish I had a link to tribs post handy.Originally Posted by hemmingway3
What makes an idiot an idiot if not regularly doing idiotic things? I disagree with your first statement anyway.
No matter these statements, questions, or their answers, TS and HD need to go. -
Quote:The developers.Originally Posted by Xanatos
Source plz.
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Quote:Being frustrated at an idiot is idiocy. Being frustrated at a comptetent individual doing stupid things is completely justifiable.Originally Posted by hemmingway3
lol
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Quote:Don't have to be a mind reader. Warwitch as well as positron both have stated looking at PvP isn't worthwhile.Originally Posted by Xanatos
Apparently you can read minds.
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Quote:You are welcome. I take donations.Originally Posted by Daknah
Sad but true. Without pvp io farmers these ios would only be sold off market and for even more ungodly numbers. I'd guess that farmers and duping account for over 99% of the pvp ios in the game. Some pvp io farmers have 16595 hours logged so a big thank you to those people for attempting to remedy the economic crisis in coh. And an even bigger thank you to those that dupped 1000s of glad jav procs.
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Quote:20% heal global. Probably going back into mids to see if I can get better numbers.Originally Posted by Jaso
curious with that much range what is your + heal? I am guessing most of it comes from panaceas and glad nets?
double checked my range i'm getting getting 40% not 49%
Heal Other and AP are both at 151 range (move a few things around I can probably get 160 fairly easily)
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Quote:The devs aren't stupid; They know exactly what they need to do to repair pvp mechanics. They couldn't care less about the "experienced" pvpers feedback. The only reason PvP hasn't been repaired is because the developers have decided repairing pvp wouldn't be worth the time and effort since it's such a very small percentage of the coh community that do pvp.Originally Posted by Xanatos
I honestly think the issue here is one of communication.
The dev team have no idea what the playerbase wants from PVP. And they don't trust "experienced" PVPers enough to listen to their feedback.
Mind you the same percentage that are still willing to PvP even though the mechanics are horribly broken. As long as you pay your sub they don't give a ****.
You really haven't figured this out yet? -
Quote:Just because I'm the worst pvper that ever graced this game doesn't mean I don't make better builds than you. d;DOriginally Posted by Xanatos
Yellow has a better build than me.
I think I might just have to end it after hearing that.
I bet my poison build is better than yours too. You probably took Paralytic Poison. XD -
Quote:Was it Ex Libris that moved on to a better paying job? It's like a revolving door for community reps that deal with pvp at paragon studios. I really miss Mod08. Almost as much as I miss Conflict.Originally Posted by The_Masque
You would be wrong.
Ex Libris was cool though. -
Quote:Ya, but then Dex found out. Raged at me about being unsportsmanlike and kicked me from vent...Originally Posted by SmokeSignal
You beast, you.
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Quote:Hey, I know you. You're the league guy that was told his emp build was crap and was offered advice by a zone farmer; then raged hard about how being in a league team made you gud and got the zone emp kicked from the team by your friend because your peen got hurt.Originally Posted by K l e s k
fact...
Real emps don't need either, if you know where they are going to spike next then range is not nessesary...
PvP is sirius bzness bro.
P.s. I used to always know where the next spike was going to be in KB because I sat and listened in on the other teams vent. :P