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Quote:My anger at NCsoft hasn't clouded my judgement in the way you would think. For instance, there was another big drop in NCstocks recently, on November 9. While some others got excited about it, I immediately saw it as a knee-jerk reaction to the U.S. election results though, since that is what had taken place the day before, and that naturally would have a very rapid trickle-down effect.I ASSUMED you could tell that was my point from this: Emphasis mine
The Titan StockWatch group seems to think THEY are the reason the stock is falling; which is nonsensical to say the least. To think a small group of people in the US is having any impact on an Asian company who is barely represented in the US shows a complete lack of understanding about NCSoft stock.
A lot of big name companies have seen plummeting stock the past few months for various reasons; none of which are grass-root hate groups.
(Before you say Titan is not a hate group...remember you are speaking to a Korean who was disgusted by some of the actions against NCSoft by using Asian culture in an attempt to inflict shame; which was sanctioned by Titan. So yeah to me; as a Korean American...they are a hate group)
Many companies being down right now is moot. We all know the economy sucks. What is more important is WHEN they started their slide though, and I'm willing to bet that none of the other companies mysteriously lost their upward momentum on that same Monday. Some investors are as timid as deer, dropping everything and running into the woods at the slightest hint of trouble, so the possibility that the Rally set something off doesn't really seem all that odd to me.
On your comment in parenthesis, I wasn't aware that I was expected to say Titan is not a hate group until I read that. I see no other mention of "hate" prior to that moment, so why did you think I was going to say anything about it?
Also, since you have now announced that you have a vendetta against the Titan-network because of an attempt to communicate things to NCsoft in a way that Koreans would more easily understand, I have a question. Why should I consider what you're saying when you try to tell me that the only reason I see a chance that SaveCoH affected NC's stocks, is because I don't like NCsoft? You're saying you have animosity against the Titan-Network now over racially-charged issues, and I'm supposed to assume that your opinion that SaveCoH could NOT have impacted stocks, isn't driven by the same emotions? Is that not a door that swings both ways?
By the way, now that the Pandora's Box of cultural racism has been opened, perhaps this one company has earned itself the distinct privilege of having their "culture used against them" as you put it: http://www.glassdoor.com/Reviews/NCs...ews-E23242.htm -
Quote:I threw out Igneous all-together at one point when I couldn't find a way to chain IG to anything related to Stephanie. I tried Monster instead. Monster minus n e o and u s leaves m r.And while I submitted Orange Text I was questioning if it was the part I got wrong because to me it means VIP status names on these forums. Which got me stuck thinking that Ig + (variation of Peebles) somehow had to be another forum user name.
Mr. Peebles? Which, after already finding Hit Streak, figured it was Black Pebble.
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Because in response to the idea that the SaveCoH rally triggered the landslide, you were saying, "No, it was the financial report." 3Q wasn't published until 2 months AFTER the stocks began dropping. So why would I think you were talking about the 3rd quarter?
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Never noticed the ring. I knew ABOUT the ring, but just... no. So I was stuck with trying to match IG up with everything from IG-Steph (In-game stuff?) to trying to find every word for female from girl to lady to crone, trying to find something that it mixed with.
And I was right about the other thing I caught being irrelevant. Actually 2 things.
The backstage pass. 9 blank dashes representing letters. Which just happen to be red, which implies a red-name. 3 on the first line, 6 on the second, which just happens to be the same number of letters that spell HIT STREAK, who happens to be the only remaining active employee at PS that we're aware of.
The other thing though... my goodness, of ALL the pieces of art you could have used for that image. I have to wonder if this was actually a Freudian slip. That painting is a depiction of Persephone being abducted by Pluto (aka Hades, aka THE DEVIL) to the Underworld. Or less specifically, Persephone was a beautiful thing being taken to the grave by a rather nasty god, a place where she did not belong. Kinda like a certain game that is being sent sent to its demise by an equally nasty entity. And what picture did you have immediately before it? The in-game protest sign.
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Quote:Oh well. Regardless, the lack of anyone being around to keep an astroturfer on a payroll remains the same.Actually A_F was asserting that Arcanaville was doing the artificial landscaping, not She of the Emoticons. At least that's how it read.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled flame war.
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Quote:The stock slump has to do with the financial report, with Aion, Lineage and Lineage II taking massive revenue hits and Blade & Soul isn't performing up to expectations...you know...over in Korea. It's not rocket science. But you have to drop the hate and BSwhen you analyze stocks and companies.
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Quote:Actually I had already thought cutting CoH might have affected prices on the day of the announcement.Uhm CoH/SAVE/Titan isn't driving NCSoft stock prices down. Their stock is declining true, but it has nothing to do with CoH
Are you prepared to state that their stock is being even moderately affected by CoH/Save/Titan if their stock prices go up...like they did on the day of the announcement
A 50,000 sub MMO closing had no impact on 8/31...and if you think 100 people blogging/tweeting is... well that's just plain silly. A LOT of stocks are currently down big time...like Microsoft, Google, Apple, Activision Blizzard, Sony, and even Walmart have all taken dives the past 2-3 months... damn you Titan!
The peak of that climb was the weekend of the Unity Rally. And the result of that was NOT just blogs and tweets. Maybe it was just blind luck then, that the highest NCsoft got in the whole 3 month span just happened to be that same weekend. Or maybe it was just Karma being the middle-man.
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Quote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9OTLnluC8call i see is the op creating false hope on something already dead..time to put your big girl panties on and leave the house..your pretend life is over in 14 days.time to grow up.
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I'm also assuming that since this is all one image, that this is a single phrase. I presume it's at least valid to ask about that.
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Quote:What fascinates me here is, A_F, one of the people who claims to be on the side of common sense, is still accusing GG of not only astroturfing, but getting paid to do so. That G_G is still here arguing, contradicts that. There is nothing left to astroturf, and no studio left to employ anyone for doing so. If A_F were just tossing the fanboy/girl title around, that would at least make more sense.Oh man, more proof that it's never to late for the ignore list.
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This almost goes in line with what's been being discussed in other threads about "new ideas" getting ridiculed by the status quo, regardless of whether or not the ideas are good ones.
There are many artists that we now praise as brilliant revolutionaries, who in their lifetime, were not even considered artists. -
Quote:Ohhhhh. Yep, got it.Sometimes, this isn't really the people rising up and making their voices known. Instead, it's either companies generating huge numbers of letters and mailing them from different locations, or even small organizations telling the members "write lots of letters, many of them, put different names on them". This "fake grassroots movement" got dubbed astroturfing.
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Also, unless there's some way to side-step relativity ala "warp fields" or something, even if FTL travel is possible, and ever feasible enough that we don't need 10 billion tons of fuel to produce enough energy to push a teacup beyond that speed (just think about how expensive and immense the LHC is and that's just for particles at sub-light speeds), the time issue would make it very impractical. We already have enough trouble just with Daylight Savings.
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From what I know of similar projects, it's not even technically possible to "reverse engineer" the servers, since we don't have them. Any independent project that has done this before, has only been able to accomplish it by analyzing packets and comparing that to what you see on the screen. This allows you to avoid digging into the client code to see what does what (reverse engineering).
I think the trick in the wording is "you may not reverse engineer the software." But since it's not the game client that is being altered, the EULA does not apply. And nobody has the server code, so they can't reverse engineer that even if they wanted to. Finally, if I'm not mistaken, the client doesn't even need to be altered to get it to connect to a different server, since it gets that information from the launcher. -
I think I found something in that puzzle that probably wasn't even meant to be there. And now it's going to permanently screw with my ability to objectively look at it.
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Quote:So at what point does something become art to you?Most movies aren't art either imo, both "mediums" do too much of the thinking for you. Feel free to argue it further, it just seems insulting to art to call any videogame art, and I am a pretty hardcore gamer.
Can we design our own Fujita scale for this? -
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Quote:Ironik gets it. *thumbs up*Some respected physicists say that Time Travel is impossible. (Einstein.) Other equally-respected physicists say that it is theoretically possible. (Goedel, Hawking.) I'm agnostic on these and I view them the same way I view the notion of a god. Maybe, maybe not; we don't know for sure either way, so I can't say. If I had to bet money, I'd bet on "no." But I don't, so I won't.
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