The_Masque

Thanks Lite, I appreicate the offer, I will PM you with some workshops and see if you would be interested in running those.

April 8th....

Unfortunately, I think you are overqualified for this event, this is more of a training session geared towards players new to pvp.

Aside from what Philly said (team balancing), we are making a conscious effort to recruit and remind people that this event is for players new to pvp. If someone already understands the mechanics of pvp and has a good grasp of differences between PvE and PvP this Boot Camp will really do nothing for them. It was for that reason that we say players with *some* pvp experience *may* be eligible, the flip side to this of course is that players who would gain nothing from this event *may not be* eligible to participate.

The reason ringer emps are necessary is that playing the healer on a pvp team is one of the most difficult tasks, you are watching 8 status bars, keeping up with your buff cycles, as well as watching the other team so see if they give away who is the spike target. This can be overwhelming for a new pvper, so to give the team a little chance at survival as well as to help those players eligible to try a healer we brought in ringer emps (one for each proposed team).

We do have some Boot Camp1 returnees who will be participating their role for the first 1/2 of the season will be to assist with the Boot Camp via the various committees they have been placed on, during the 2nd half of Boot Camp they will be acting as mentors and guides for the players new to PvP.

I wouldn't worry too much about one team rolling another, as I have reminded most people this event is not about winning its about learning at this point and growing the PvP population of CoX. We will eventually get back to the point where multiple viable teams can exist and at that point we will start playing competitively.

We can always use back up emps (incase one of the ringer emps cant make it for a match).

Actually Avatea also suggested this to me when we talked about this event, the biggest issue with test (and always has been) is that it goes down for closed Beta, there are more frequent updates and the current server would not support the number of players we are hoping to get for this event.

The other big draw back to running it on test is that people would only be able to bring 50's they currently have and while it is true you can PvP on pretty much anything with the right IO's and skill, what we are trying to teach is Team-Based pvp so the AT/Powerset choices are not as flexible as for zone or duels. So a lot of people still would need accelerated experience obtainment to get a 50 of a viable team build for this event (especially since this event is geared towards players new to pvp).

I do appreciate you interest, support and ideas for this event, all of them are very welcomed.

Wow R-Tech hasn't even started PvP Boot Camp is already a Pro at Broadcast PvP.

Your level 20 against my level 50 would have the same outcome as your level 20 against a level 50 NPC in PvE. So I am not sure what your point is as far as that.

As far as my point- I will state it again there are 4 things that go into a sucessful PvP character: 1) The Power Choices, 2) The Build, 3)Skill and 4)Luck. The purpose of this event is to minimize the learning curve for PvP by controlling as many of these as possible leaving only #3-Skill which is what we will be attempting to impart upon the players who join and attend this event.

This event is not about winning (I guess maybe I didn't make that as clear as it should have been) this event is about teaching players about PvP, about what works, about how to create PvP builds, last boot camp I actually also taught marketing skills and profit margins to players so they could afford to IO out their characters. By the end of the last session, everyone who stayed in BC had a pvp viable toon.

It is clear to me that you haven't ventured into a pvp zone or arena match in many issues as since I13 it is impossible to Soft-Cap anything in PvP (outside of running elude), you can not reach perma hasten without numerous outside buffs and even then you will be gimping your character by building for +recharge over +HP. I understand you hesitation and even your apprehension about PvP but you anger is misplaced by directing it at myself and this event.


@EmperorSteele- ty for you kind words of support. I actually have a thread posted on Victory for people to ask for build advice for characters in PvP and have made multiple builds for people on Victory. I would love to see Boot Camps (or PvP Universities) on each server to help assist any player with interest or questions about PvP.

I apologize to anyone if they feel these posts are trying to jam PvP down your throat, this is certainly not the case. Anyone new to PvP who would wish to learn about this aspect of the game we all enjoy is more then welcome to join us.

Dirty PowerGamer.

It is unfortunate you work right when we will be hosting this event- If you did want to read along most of the information taught is posted on a few threads- the key one is in my sig Victory PvP University.

Thanks for your support.

I understand and respect your hesitation about the PvP aspect of this game.

The truth is there is a learning curve to all aspects of this game, when you first started playing CoH, you went through a tutorial that gave you some basic information about how the game mechanics works.

Some new aspects of the game also have tutorials on how they work: Crafting and AE. Some aspects of the game people excel at while others just don't understand how things work- look at set bonuses, I often field questions from people about what set bonuses exempt down and how far. What are procs and how do they work.

PvP- is no different, it has a steep learning curve, no one would argue this somethings work, somethings don't. That is the whole point of this event, to share the knowledge of what works and why in PvP. Think of it as the PvP tutorial that they forgot to include in the game.







You have some misconceptions of PvP, but more importantly about this event we are hosting.

Someone once told me that success in PvP is based on 4 components:

1) Your character- yes you are 100% right in your statement that "FoTM" characters flourish in PvP, there is a reason the said characters are popular- because they work- just as there is a reason why the most popular car is the most popular car (its reliable), or the most popular phone is the most popular phone (its does what you want it to do). People toss the term "FoTM" around as if its a bad thing but things are popular for a reason, I mean we all are playing the most popular Super Hero MMO right?

2)Your Build-building a character is just as important as selecting the right character for PvP. Your statement about "Billions" is a very true one, most PvPers spend many billions of inf on their PvP characters. However, purples as a rule are not always the best IOs to slot on a pvp toon.

3) Skill- There is some misconception that PvP is just buttonmashing-rock/paper/scissors. If you bring X and I bring Y, X will always win. The truth is there are some aspects to the PvP game (especially team based PvP which is what this event is all about) that actually takes some skill and practice.

4) Luck-RNG plays a roll in PvP just as it does in PvE.


So out of those 4 aspects of PvP what we are trying to do in PvP Boot Camp is to control as many of them as we can:

1) We will be asking players to create tried and true team based PvP characters (so you have an effective character in PvP).

2) I personally will be making all the builds for the players in this event, and to remove the *gear* from the equation no purple IOs and PvP IOs will be allowed to be slotted in this event. This also opens up the event to players who do not wish to invest *billions* in a pvp character but may wish to try this aspect of the game.

3)The whole point of this event is to teach players the mechanics of what works and why in team PvP.

4) Damn you RNG- we just have to play by it like everyone else.

Thanks for you attention and we hope to see some of you at our event.

PvP University is actually hosting this event for all servers, and it is unfortunate that the time slot chosen conflicts with the regularly scheduled MSRs hosted on Liberty. The unfortunate truth is no mater what time slot we would chose it would conflict with some regularly scheduled event on one of the servers.

I again wish to extend the offer to anyone from Liberty who may wishes to try PvP in a low key, education over competitiveness format.

Thanks again for your attention .