T_Immortalus

I didn't say it was bad at killing GMs or AVs, just that it doesn't seem like it would be the best due to having to be within 20ft for Time's Juncture.

Also, I will not have perma-PA since I only have HOs and SOs.
The point stands.



Edit:
I also was referring to rad/time not being as good possibly as rad/rad against GMs, not illusion/time.

1) I 3 slot Stamina with DOs and SOs ASAP.

2) It's endurance cost should be manageable from the very first level it is available. If you can't use it "at some times" then it either needs to not be available at those times or needs to be changed to be manageable.

3) Stealth over 65ft doesn't matter because anything that can see farther likely sees you at all times. Therefore, comparing it to Shadow Fall and Steamy Mist is apt since it only gets, effectively, double the stealth and doesn't get most of the other benefits, let alone the AoE usage.
Also, it is very apt to compare SI to Stealth and Energy Cloak, which both behave very similarly with "half the stealth" and about the same defense benefit with one-third to one-quarter the endurance usage.
Super Speed and a stealth IO is even cheaper on endurance for the exact same benefit, and others. Super Speed plus Stealth is the same at 2/3rds the cost of SI.




If I'm not supposed to use Superior Invisibility in combat then why don't they just make it an "only affect self" power?
If I'm not supposed to use it then take it away or make it completely undesirable in most situations, like Afterburner with the "only affect self" stipulation and high endurance cost on top of Fly's high endurance cost.

When was the last time Illusion Control ever saw any changes even?
I bet it's time that it was changed, just like Gravity was well past due for a change.



Edit:
What is the point of half of the defense of SI dropping in combat, but retaining half, if it is not meant to be used in combat?
If we're just meant to use it to avoid aggro and run from aggro then the defense should be high all the time.
What is the point of the stealth not suppressing in combat if it is not meant to be used when you have aggro? Obviously, it won't do any good against anything that sees you unprovoked, so it must be for in combat use.

How are we supposed to use any other toggles while SI is active? Combine SI with Fly and you have 2 endurance per second down. That's more than default endurance recovery which is only 1.67. SI plus Time's Juncture is bad enough at about 1.56 per second endurance usage.
How did anybody use SI at all before inherent Stamina? This is rhetorical. They either didn't use it or used it sparingly until SOs and Stamina at level 20.

They really don't want Illusion Control users using much of their primary, let alone any of their secondary, when using SI, do they?

1) You can choose your risky and complex missions if you want. I'm talking about RISKY AND COMPLEX CHARACTERS where there is no choice. It's always risky and complex for them because the way they play is not tied to a mission; it is tied to their very soul.

2) I WANT TO LIKE ILLUSION CONTROL AND OTHER NON-MELEE SETS!

I like brutes because they are strong, not because they are the most interesting to play or have the coolest looking powers because they aren't and don't.

The coolest looking power to me is Propel, with Phantasm and Spectral Terror a close second and Superior Invisibility third and Time's Juncture fourth...etc.
The coolest concept set is Time Manipulation, followed by a tie between Illusion and Gravity.
The most power is not from those sets. In fact, those sets are weaker than other controller sets even. Gravity just got a buff, but Illusion still needs a buff ASAP.





I play what I like best out of the characters that I can actually tolerate.
I barely tolerate Illusion Control because the endurance cost sucks and the expected method of play is SOOOO SLOOOOWWWW(to level and get rewards and even finish single missions even when stealthing them if the mission doesn't make it hard to stealth like with Rikti Drones and ambushes).

So, don't say "play what you want" when my answer is "I gladly would if it wasn't so frustratingly poorly designed".

"for everyone TO HAVE MORE FUN"

Meaning = "more fun will be had by everyone, even if they already have fun".


You = "I like to take one word out of a sentence and completely change the meaning of it to suit my point."

You misunderstood me.

I was not asking for it to "play the same". I was asking for it to be "just as fast and fun", or at least "just as good on endurance".


Why do melee archetypes get so many awesome toggles that provide HUGE number boosts, especially mez protection, that only cost them 0.26 endurance per second each or less?
Superior Invisibility is almost 5 times as expensive as Energy Cloak(from energy Aura), or the stealth from Dark Armor, but only has, effectively, double the stealth(anything above 65ft is wasted because anything that can see you farther likely sees completely through light years of stealth) with a little less, or the same, defense. Energy Cloak also does not suppress unless clicking a glowy, just like Superior Invisibility.

That's just not right.

Oh, it is an apt comparison since characters that have Energy Aura get higher damage on top of less worry about endurance, while it is also a secondary which still has to work with an offensive primary. What does Illusion Control get in exchange for not being able to do squat to gain XP while SI is on?



Edit:
Maybe the problem with Illusion Control is that it has a power normally found in a secondary set, stealth in SI, in a primary set of attacks that also need to use a lot of endurance for balance reasons. Maybe they forgot that Superior Invisibility is as essential to Illusion Control as Hide is to Stalkers, so therefore it should have a much lower endurance cost like Hide has a lower endurance cost(though Hide has no endurance cost).
Superior Invisibility already has the same disadvantage as all stealth powers as well. The stealth is gone if you attack any enemy in a group, for that group anyway. The endurance cost seems to have been made so huge to make it like Phase Shift or Quantum Flight or any other "turn this on only for panic situations and then it must turn off soon" powers. It's like Superior Invisibility was never intended to even be used with Deceive, let alone any other powers.

They seem to have forgotten how they designed aggro to work in this game when they set the endurance cost of SI.

Edit 2:
Phantom Army lasts only one minute, and doesn't come until level 20.
It has a recharge of 4 minutes. That gets down to 2 minutes with 3 SOs.

I only have access to SOs, as do most people as only SOs are guaranteed for free and every set needs to be balanced and playable for even free players.

Therefore, Phantom Army is not very useful for a whole room, especially the larger rooms like the layer-cake cave, unless I want to take it much slower than I already need to.


Edit 3:
Inspirations do not drop reliably enough to count on, unless you happen to be defeating enemies(without confuse) very fast which Illusion Control can't do easily if at all.
Also they drop into the tray in a certain order that ends up really messed up to use unless you click them with the mouse. They require organization which takes time and is annoying.

Also, my brutes and tankers and even my rad/time corruptor, and especially my masterminds, do not need inspirations. I don't use them then.
The fact that Illusion Control "needs them" is a bad thing. It proves the design is flawed.

Leadership toggles use more endurance, not what I need.



I'M TALKING ABOUT LOWEST DIFFICULTY!!!

Maybe you should realize that endurance costs SUCK even at the lowest difficulty and player level because they do not scale with level.


Honestly, the way enhancements work is completely stupid. They should just let us buy SOs at level 5 and delete TOs and DOs because we need SO level enhancement at low levels even more than we do at mid levels when we finally get them.




As for "streakbreaker", it's complicated but it fails if you use a power with a lower chance to hit than the previous power(according to Arcanaville's post on it) and only affects the 3rd power of every 3 miss streak.
It's about 33% accuracy, or one hit out of every 3, at best. If you are counting on that then your character is already face down on the ground.

There are a few problems with that.

1) You don't have many slots at lower levels when this is most important. That makes Spectral Wounds weak. Even a minion needs Blind, Spectral Wounds and one more application of Spectral Wounds at least to be defeated. That sucks.
It may have started out where I could use Blind and then SW and the enemy would be dead, but it did not last long.

2) They have annoyingly long recharge. Most other sets at least have a faster 4 second recharge power first. Those sets also aren't as risky because they mez or do more damage outright.

3) Bosses are a pain to mez. They require 2 applications usually, unless they have mez protection(hate those Destroyer Big Dog bosses downgraded to lieutenants).
Because they aren't mezzed right away, they are my first target or I'll die. Or, I could let the minions miss and hit for piddly damage for 5 minutes to take down the boss while I die of boredom.
That isn't fun, nor is it as easy as you seem to be saying.

4) I'm still going to slot at least 2 accuracy in everything because missed powers are annoying and huge problems when you miss the mez that would keep you alive.
Deceive doesn't last that long at low levels(because endurance cost and recharge don't scale with level but duration sure does, sadly) so you can barely keep 3 enemies confused early on. If you miss then you're under attack if you used any other power on any other enemy in the group.
Then, there are the groups of 4 linked enemies, which happens often in Praetoria and later levels of other places.

5) Other characters can increase difficulty. Illusion Controllers, at least with SOs and at lower levels, can't.
That is one reason they take out bosses first. They can, and minions are not a threat to them.




I actually think that they designed the game as a whole(and NPCs especially) from a combat-based and balanced perspective and then they designed melee archetypes after the NPCs and the ranged and support characters were an afterthought that seem to have been designed for a "non-combat-based" perspective. The ranged and support just fail at the game compared to melee because "they were designed for the wrong style of game".

I really do think this game needs a relatively drastic change.
The competing games aren't afraid to change even the oldest and most basic stuff up in order to make it better.
New games aren't afraid to do something better from the start rather than copying this old system that obviously has a lot of faults but still apparently "works well enough to sell".

Sometimes you really do need to break out of the stubborn rut you're in. The developers of this game definitely need to rethink "Jack Emmert's design" and make the game better than it was 7 years ago, rather than just making newer sets a little better and trying not to change "the sacred cow".

That is the problem. You CAN'T design powers as a set that way because it will break the powers individually, especially when paired with pool powers.
Imagine if Power Boost was allowed to function with toggles for the full "always on" duration of a toggle, or imagine if any other power combination purposefully nerfed was allowed to work again because they balanced as a set rather than individually. It would be a broken mess.

And anyway, I'm not even comparing different sets. I'm talking about the performance, as a whole, of Illusion Control.



What am I supposed to do with Superior Invisibility?

....run to the end of a mission and "not defeat anybody" and somehow complete a mission that always requires defeating at least one group, especially on newspaper and radio missions that require clearing the end room for a blinky mission?
....not use it to avoid aggro from extra groups other than the one I am attacking because it would cost too much endurance to attack and use it?
....not use it at all because I have to escort an NPC that can't follow me stealthed, while others can, even though it would work "in the story" because I would be speaking "turn left", "keep following me or I'll kick your butt" and other directions even while stealthed that would let the NPC know I'm still there?
....use only Deceive(confuse) with it, because the endurance cost of using anything else with a 1 endurance per second toggle is much too high, until the last guy is dead(after a really long time because they miss each other so often and do so little damage to each other often) and then only get xp for the last guy which is a LOT LOT LOT slower than every other character gets xp?


Either they purposefully designed Illusion Control to be super slow and painful to use or they designed it to work ina game that is not City of Heroes's combat based gameplay.

When has this game ever rewarded "non-combat" gameplay and avoiding combat?
When has this game ever encouraged avoiding combat?
When has every ambush in the entire game not seen through stealth and followed players everywhere in the mission?




They need to admit that they made mistakes, like they did with PVP originally and with the most recent changes, and make an effort to improve things.

The first thing they can do is make accuracy and endurance reduction less necessary so we don't waste at least 1/3 of our slots on just those.
The second thing is they should either make non-combat gameplay or make every power set viable in combat.

Those are not suggestions. They are necessary to the design of this game since it is already combat based.




FYI:

1) I don't use flash. It sucks.
1a) Flash can and does miss often, requiring more accuracy than normal powers and leaving me wide open for far too long.
1b) Flash has such a long recharge that it can't even be made close to "half up-time". That means it is absolutely useless as an "everyday use" power.

I don't need panic buttons because I should not be panicking. Seriously, do we panic every few minutes in real life? Do we see a need for 911 every 4 minutes, or even every 4 hours?
No, we avoid the situations where we would tend to panic or need emergency help.

2) Flash sucks compared to its Peacebringer cousin Pulsar that is actually made correctly and a lot better.



3) I don't care if you insult me or laugh at what I post or whatever.

I have given this enough thought, along the lines of "what would make this game more fun?", "how can they change the powers to keep what they do and what the archetypes are meant to do the same while making them as fun and viable as they need to be?" and "where does paper beat scissors seemingly inexplicably all too often?".

I came to the conclusion that melee archetypes have it much too good(coming from someone who loves playing brutes, and Fortunatas, for that reason).
1) They get much higher defenses and resistance and health and regen(which is proportional to health).
2) They get practically unbreakable mez protection on top of #1, not just "mag 3 protection" or some other basic number like the NPCs get. They regularly get 10-16 mag protection to everything that matters and then some.
(Honestly, mez protection powers should cost a full 1 endurance per second, at least, because they're 10 times as valuable as any other toggle.)
3) Melee powers, especially on melee archetypes, get great damage. Scrappers get often enough critical hits for double damage. Brutes get Fury for consistent up to 200% damage boost. Stalkers get guaranteed criticals at least periodically. Every other character that uses melee powers gets high numbers for them(and blasters get the ability to use some attacks while mezzed, unique among squishies).


You know what everybody forgets about ranged and support characters?
1) They can't attack or use support powers while mezzed, and every offensive toggle turns off(and waits for the annoyingly long recharge).
2) Their support powers affect everyone but them as much or more than they affect the support character.

You have melee archetypes that can solo things the support and ranged characters need a team for. They just become godly with a team while support and ranged characters finally become "normal" while teamed.
(Yes, you can't tell me that a support or ranged character becomes better than a melee character with the same buffs. They have a lot more to start with and then you just stack buffs on top. Support and ranged characters are just catching up finally when on teams, and they still need mez protection to do so.)


So, either melee characters need a sever nerf, with a small buff to ranged and support characters, or ranged and support characters need a huge buff, which could mostly be done with the enhancement necessity changes I posted here that would affect everyone equally.





Tell me?
How do you judge a character's strength in this game?

Is it how fast they go through enemies?
Is it how much "reward per time" they get?

Is it how safe they are stealthed and using only confuse when they could be just as safe by sitting in Ouroboros hiding from the world and never playing the game while getting about the same "reward per time" rate?

The latter doesn't sound very fun being forced into. It certainly is not what most people view as "fun" and "awesome performance".
At best, stealth and confuse is a "novelty", outside of PVP, because it is fun to say "stop hitting yourself" a few times until you have done it 1 million times and would actually like to feel like a "superhero" or "supervillain" for once.





You know what would solve the problem? I do:

Make confuse grant full xp to the player for any enemy the confused enemy defeats. They kill each other slower than the players do(aside from Illusion Control and other rare situations) so they wouldn't get more xp. It would just be more cautious.


If you don't want to do that then you should find a way to actually make "avoiding combat" rewarding and more fun, without making it annoyingly more complex and risky.(I HATE ambushes that see through stealth, especially on the missions they just keep coming and too fast. It just breaks all immersion and "suspension of disbelief" and throws the character concept of stealth out the window. Rikti Drones and other such enemies also do that.)
If you are going to have stealth then you need to make it work as advertised(no aggro, even from other enemies in the same group as your target), or you need to remove most of the other "sacrifices" you baked into the powers the stealthed player is using because they are just "adding insult to injury" at that point.






Edit:
FYI, nerfing melee archetypes wouldn't even make them unplayable. At worst, it would encourage them to team, thus giving support and ranged characters the help they need for those annoyingly difficult ambushes, mezzing bosses and Elite Boss/Archvillain/Hero enemies.
Something is seriously wrong when melee archetypes can commonly and easily solo Elite Bosses and, all too often, Giant Monsters while ranged and support characters need "the best build with the best power sets" to even get close.
I had an old Willpower/Super Strength Tanker that I almost soloed Babbage with just SOs. I could keep Babbage at or below 50% health, after getting him there myself, but I just could not bring him below 5% for some reason. Maybe I just got tired after 5 minutes and had to renew my focus.
I haven't yet tried to solo Babbage on a Willpower Brute with SOs, but I bet I could finish him of then.


Edit 2:
I do use Deceive, but I don't get xp if I don't use the other powers. I also get less xp per unit of time than other characters even when I use confuse, unless I skip to the end of the mission(if possible) and do the absolute minimum(feeling real "super" about "running and hiding" rather than "having my way with enemies that can't see me").

Spectral Terror comes too late int he set to be very useful when it is needed most, at lower levels with fewer enhancements. It also aggros everything and sends one enemy at a time running out of the AoE fear to snap out of it and take pot-shots from range. It just makes stealth useless.
Illusion needs an actual AoE immobilize or something to keep the enemy in range of Spectral Terror, but it doesn't have that.
Sure, you can use confuse on the guy who ran out, but it's still painfully slow and requires a lot of attention and endurance to defeat as fast as you can as well. Other characters don't have that much trouble or at least defeat foes much faster, earning faster rewards.

And that only works if the enemies are susceptible to fear and no enemy has a leadership power.

As for Phantasm, he is too stupid right now to be of much use. He just pushes enemies out of Spectral Terror's fear AoE and gets killed. He also comes much too late to help the poor low level or exemplared performance.
(I absolutely hate exemplaring for Ouroboros arcs because I need to get help before starting them if I need help. I lose most of my effectiveness as well and all the SOs degrade to less than what they should be individually at the level I am exemplared to. Essentially, I end up needing more accuracy SOs while exemplared than I needed when actually at that level.)

1) It's a Logitech mouse. The Razer software is the keyboard, and it goes unused. It's just basic operating software with the option to setup bind profiles.

2) I don't use any macros for any games, aside from the power bar icons in CoH and similar emote macros.

3) This is not a "slightly off target box". The target box is exactly where it should be.

The problem is the target box does not become visible until the mouse is at a specific area FAR off target.

Visualize a 30 inch monitor. Now imagine a target is 4 inches to the right or left of that center.
With this bug, I pretty much have to move the cursor(while I'm manually moving, never happens any other time) 4 inches or so farther toward the screen edge in order for the target box to come up as if "the cursor is now on the target" when the cursor is obviously not even close to the target.

edge of screen = I
cursor = ^
target = T
center of screen = 0

I_^_____T_______0

No, not always to the left or top. Where I have to move the cursor to get the target box to show, and allow clicking the target, is either closer toward the center of the screen while moving backwards or farther toward the edge while moving forward. Which edge is determined by the position of the enemy, right edge for enemy toward the right.


I could try changing to full screen when the bug happens again, but I highly doubt that will do anything due to the fact that the bug stops while "auto-run" is active, and starts again when it is turned off.
Manually running is the key, for some reason.

I set it to that after a LOT of tinkering with settings.
Lowering AF settings don't increase my performance by any noticeable amount, and it looks the best at 16x.

It's not a problem. I get constant 60 fps in most situations, barring bad areas of certain zones(like Imperial City's skyscrapers and SE Cap Au Diable) that drop it to 45 or so FPS with a bit of stutter and very heavy load areas like Hamidon Raids and Mothership Raids that drop it to average of 15-20 fps and low of 10 or so(which does so at practically every graphical level due to the amount going on).

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That should do it.

Would the "demorecord" function work?
Also, how does "demorecord" work?

If you gave a link to FRAPS I could possibly try that, but only if it is free.
(faulty memory alert....) Doesn't FRAPS require starting before you start the game? I haven't even thought about FRAPS for years, so I'm unsure. That would essentially clear the bug, likely, if the game needed a restart.

Also, will "demorecord" and/or FRAPS record the mouse cursor? I know screenshots do not, not even the pasted printscreen results.


Of course, I will have to wait until the bug happens again as well.





Edit:
I have never uploaded anything other than a picture as well, so I would need the full tutorial on uploading a video including what site to go to.

The wiki doesn't list it as a command, but the game doesn't give an error when it is used.
It also doesn't seem to do anything, aside from maybe making my connection worse when it is laggy.

I wish we had official word on this.

That means you are getting 43 frames per second, when your monitor and the game want to push it up to 60 frames per second.

Essentially, you have graphics slowdown. You should lower your settings or maybe it is just that area that is the problem(Imperial City is notorious for slowdown).


Anyway, your frame-rate is not 60 so it will stutter anytime it encounters increased load. This can also include seeing things move backwards, especially the random citizens.




Your best bet is lowering graphics settings until you get 60fps constantly.





Edit @Healix:
What does "neterrorcorrection" do? I have never even heard of that command. It may help my connection if it does what I think it does.