SweetChilli

Its that age old dispute. Do you let a players primary set be negated? Or let that player negate somone else's primary set with their primary set.

50-50 sounds good to me.

At least if we all use small ones, this happens and everyone has access to the same insps. Temp powers would imbalance it too much. Whoever had their shivan and R.V. robot walking around would just about automatically win.

I wnat to see how imbalanced YOUR powers are against MY powers. Not who's SG can get them the best temp powers before each fight.

Yes, holds are really the determining factors for the insps and the lenghts of the fights.

I think potentially have a bf on for 62.5% of the fight is about fair. Thats about as near to 50% as I can get.

If you read the full set of rules, you will see how this is enforced.

Just to explain the reason for a few rules.

The reason temp powers are not allowed is that I didn't want it be be a case of whoever runs to sirens and buys all the powers everytime they are going into a match.

The reason only small insps are alolowed is that if:
No insps were allowed, blaster would just about automaticlaly lose to controllers. If bigger insps were allowed, then someone could walk in with 25 of the big break frees and gobble 1 every 90 seconds - thereby making them immune to holds for the duration of the whole match. And also, I didn't want it to become a matter of who's SG could supply and farm the best insps.

Matches are 20 mins because thats a good lenght to get a fair result. This length of time will mean that although insps do play a factor, they will not be THE determining factor. 25 bf's mean high hold resistance for 12.5 mins which is a fair time, but not too long and not too short I felt.

The disconnection rule is to give everyone a chance, even if their internet connection is not always great. The reason you can only do it once though is so you cannot decide to drop, everytime elude goes down and then restart. Not that I think anyone would really go to the bother of all this trouble as their conduct would certainly be highlighted to me if they did.

To restart the match from scrath would be unfair on the person who was winning so far. I want to avoid people dropping as soon as they start loosing.

When players have more than 1 character in the league, I was going to award it an automatic draw, but now it will be a win - loss, loss - win. This is so that they get exactly half of the potential points that they could have got, had it been possible to play those matches. It not ideal, but its the fairest way of doing it I could think of.

The reason the rules and points favour the kills is that it would be possible for someone to get 1 kill, then sit a PFF for the other 19 minutes, of just hide+stealth. I really wanted to avoid this if possible so the rewards favour those who go in search if kills, rather than hanging onto a small lead that they might have.

If anyone has any problems, suggestions or ideas, then please feel free to let those idea or problems be known.

Thanks.

League Rules:


POINTS:
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The league will be based on the following scoring:

3 for a win
1 for a draw
0 for a loss
1 point for beating your opponent by 5 kills or more.



MATCH RULES AND SETTINGS:
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-Matches will be played at Ranked Custom Team at Super Heavy Weight level (Level 50) and the official place for the matches is the test server.
Matches will be set for 20 minutes in length with none of the options ticked.

-Should a player quit then they shall forfit the game and the other player will be awarded 3 points,
plus a bonus point if they have the 5 kills or more than their opponent.

-Should a player be disconnected, then the remaining player will note the time of the diconnection.
When the plays get back on line, the match shall be restarted and normal play shall resume from the previous time noted.
Should this happen again to the same player, they shall forefit the match.

-The use of SMALL insperations ONLY is allowed.


Before each match, players must open a trade window and show the other player all their insperations
This is to ensure that all insperations are small ones.
Each player has the right to request to see this inverntory at any time before the match.
(This is to prevent someone quickly burning a few and getting handed some by a friend).


The use of accolades is allowed.

The use of Tempory Power is NOT allowed.

Players will face each other twice, except for those that belong to the same person who will not face each other at all.


FIXTURES:
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The offical place for the matches is the test server.
However, if both players agree, the match may take place on their own server.

All results must be sent to me via the private message system on these boards.

The Nights for these matches are as follows:
Monday 8:00pm
Wednesday 8:00pm

However, it is left to the 2 participants to decide when they will get these matches in.
If you bump into each other on a Tuesday, for example, and decide to get one or both of your fights out the way, then go ahead.
So the Monday and Wednesday is just a guide as to when others might be free.
It may be possible to never have to fight on these nights and still get all your matches done.

So basically, get your fights in when you can, and if you wander over to test on these nights, then you might get the matches you are missing.

If you ask someone for you match and they reply that they are busy or logging, then thats fine.
This league is expected to last a while so you are under no pressue to get all your matches done as quickly as possible.

MAKE SURE THE OTHER PERSON KNOWS ITS YOUR LEAGUE MATCH, NOT JUST A PRACTISE MATCH THOUGH.
SHOULD BE OBVIOUS AS YOU NORMALLY DON'T FLASK EACH OTHER YOUR INSPS BEFORE A NORMAL MATCH.


MULTIPLE CHARACTERS:
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Players may enter as many characters as they wish into this league.
Obviously they will be unable to play each other.
So that these players don't miss out on all the points from these matches,
then these matches will be considered a win for one character for 1 match and a loss for the other match player.
This is to ensure that each character, ends up with half the possible points that they could have won.

All results must be sent to me via a PM eg:

Sweet Chilli 20 - Knight Stalker 5 (at time of second disconnection)
Knight Stalker 2 - Sweet Chill 1

The organisers will keep the league updated and when we only have a few matches left,
the organisers will do a list of remaining fixtures. They will also publish all result periodically.

In the case of disputes, players must try to solve it between themselves.
If it cannot be resolved, The Organisers look at it fairly and try to make a decision.
If a decision cannot be made, then the match will be played again at a specified time
that is convienient for all parties and the organisers will sit in in observer mode.


THE END OF THE LEAGUE:
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The league ends when all the matches have been played. If someone stops playing or takes too long then
they will forfit all their matches.

The points will be added up and the results published. In the event of a draw, it will go to kills.
If kills are the same, then it will go to deaths. If these are the same then we have 2 winners.


PLAYERS CAUGTH CHEATING:
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Players caught cheating will have points deducted and may be suspended from the league.
In all cases, all communication with organisers must be via the Private Message system on these boards.
The organisers may change or modify the rules at any time. Such changes will be announced on these boards.
In all cases, the decisions of the organisers will be final.


CONDUCT:
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At all times, the standard City of Heroes User Agreement and Rules of Conduct will apply.
The use of voice comms or any other communication in a match is strictly prohibited.

The way I think its going to work it doesn't really matter how many alts people enter.

Also, it doesn't matter what nights you are available or if you go on holiday for 3 weeks, you will still be able to participate in the league with no penalty, points lost or matches not played.

Go ahead.

I've done it for 1 or 2...but it would be far easier if everyone just did it.

However, I don't think i'm going to need them now to be honest. The only reason I wanted them in the first place was so I knew who couldn't fight each other. Now everyone will be giving me a result so it doesn't really matter anymore.

List so far...




Sweet Chilli - Controller - Union - @sweet chilli

Serophina - Scrapper - Defiant

Chelsea Smile - Brute - Defiant

Imaginary - Controller - Defiant

Daybringer - Controller - Defiant

Anubis - Scrapper 50 - Vigilance

Openheimer - Controller 50 - Vigilance

FireTaker - Tank - Vigilance

Dr Infernum - Corruptor - Union
Thundercharge - Blaster - Union

Razgul - Scrapper - Defiant

Thaliada - Defender - Zukunft - @Thaliada

Flush - Defender - Defiant

Skinz - Scrapper - Defiant

Spectra Phantom - Controller - Defiant

Sunspot - Blaster - Union

Neutreno - Defender - Union

Midnight Gale - Controller - Defiant - @Powernova

E-gen v2 - Controller - Defiant

Omega MCX - Controller - Defiant

Plight Trawler - Blaster - Defiant

Dearch - Corrupter - Defiant

Forbearance - Tank - Union - @knight stalker
Knight Stalker - Scrapper - Union - @knight stalker
Debt Collector - Brute - Union - @knight stalker
Unforgotten - Mastermind - Union - @knight stalker

X3 - Controller - Union - @x-treme

Composure - Defender - Defiant - @Composure

Icy Shard - Blaster - Vigilance - @Icy Shard

Purple Hazel - Controller - Union - @Seriphimus

Jill Frost - Controller - Union - @Norton

Far-seer - Scrapper - Union - @Far-seer

List so far...
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Sweet Chilli - Controller - Union - @sweet chilli

Serophina - Scrapper - Defiant

Chelsea Smile - Brute - Defiant

Imaginary - Controller - Defiant

Daybringer - Controller - Defiant

Anubis - Scrapper 50 - Vigilance

Openheimer - Controller 50 - Vigilance

FireTaker - Tank - Vigilance

Dr Infernum - Corruptor - Union
Thundercharge - Blaster - Union

Razgul - Scrapper - Defiant

Thaliada - Defender - Zukunft - @Thaliada

Flush - Defender - Defiant

Skinz - Scrapper - Defiant

Spectra Phantom - Controller - Defiant

Sunspot - Blaster - Union

Neutreno - Defender - Union

Midnight Gale - Controller - Defiant - @Powernova

E-gen v2 - Controller - Defiant

Omega MCX - Controller - Defiant

Plight Trawler - Blaster - Defiant

Dearch - Corrupter - Defiant

Forbearance - Tank - Union - @knight stalker
Knight Stalker - Scrapper - Union - @knight stalker
Debt Collector - Brute - Union - @knight stalker
Unforgotten - Mastermind - Union - @knight stalker

X3 - Controller - Union - @x-treme

Composure - Defender - Defiant - @Composure


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List so far...


Sweet Chilli - Controller - Union - @sweet chilli

Jumanjimon - Scrapper - Union
Jumanjionic - Blaster - Union
Katora - Controller - Union

Serophina - Scrapper - Defiant

Chelsea Smile - Brute - Defiant

Imaginary - Controller - Defiant

Daybringer - Controller - Defiant

Anubis - Scrapper 50 - Vigilance

Openheimer - Controller 50 - Vigilance

FireTaker - Tank - Vigilance

Dr Infernum - Corruptor - Union
Thundercharge - Blaster - Union

Razgul - Scrapper - Defiant

Thaliada - Defender - Zukunft - @Thaliada

Flush - Defender - Defiant

Skinz - Scrapper - Defiant

Spectra Phantom - Controller - Defiant

Sunspot - Blaster - Union

Neutreno - Defender - Union

Midnight Gale - Controller - Defiant - @Powernova

E-gen v2 - Controller - Defiant

Omega MCX - Controller - Defiant

Plight Trawler - Blaster - Defiant

Dearch - Corrupter - Defiant

Forbearance - Tank - Union - @knight stalker
Knight Stalker - Scrapper - Union - @knight stalker
Debt Collector - Brute - Union - @knight stalker
Unforgotten - Mastermind - Union - @knight stalker

X3 - Controller - Union - @x-treme

I'll enter the exact rules on Monday so people have a weekend to see th ethread. If you are not happy with these rules then let me know and we can chat about any changes you want.

I am interested in starting a PvP solo league on the test server for all Players of CoH and CoV Europe.
Further details and rules will be drawn up and published, once I get an idea of numbers interested. It will be played at level 50 in the arena. You can enter more than 1 character if you wish to do so.

Anyone interested please put your character name, AT, server and handle below please...


Sweet Chilli - Controller - Union - @sweet chilli

Jumanjimon - Scrapper - Union
Jumanjionic - Blaster - Union
Katora - Controller - Union

Serophina - Scrapper - Defiant

Chelsea Smile - Brute - Defiant

Imaginary - Controller - Defiant

Daybringer - Controller - Defiant

Anubis - Scrapper 50 - Vigilance

Openheimer - Controller 50 - Vigilance

FireTaker - Tank - Vigilance

Dr Infernum - Corruptor - Union
Thundercharge - Blaster - Union

Razgul - Scrapper - Defiant

Thaliada - Defender - Zukunft - @Thaliada

Flush - Defender - Defiant

Skinz - Scrapper - Defiant

Spectra Phantom - Controller - Defiant

Sunspot - Blaster - Union

Neutreno - Defender - Union

Midnight Gale - Controller - Defiant

E-gen v2 - Controller - Defiant

Omega MCX - Controller - Defiant

Plight Trawler - Blaster - Defiant

Dearch - Corrupter - Defiant

Forbearance - Tank - Union - @knight stalker
Knight Stalker - Scrapper - Union - @knight stalker
Debt Collector - Brute - Union - @knight stalker
Unforgotten - Mastermind - Union - @knight stalker

X3 - Controller - Union - @x-treme



Can players who have given their names so far please tell me their chat handles and for which players these apply to.

Thanks.

Of course I'm sweet chilli. I just don't think it will be me that ends up doing the work.

Good idea, Nef.

Can people give their global names too please.

Oh I'm not organising it....someone else is. I'm just getting the list of names for her.

Oh shut up.

Right - have I got those gaps right then? Let me know if I have a gap between your characters and I will remove the gap so we know which are yours.

Lets see if I can rememmeber....I'll put gaps between PLAYERS.



Sweet Chilli - Controller - Union

Jumanjimon - Scrapper - Union - @sweet chilli
Jumanjionic - Blaster - Union
Katora - Controller - Union

Serophina - Scrapper - Defiant

Chelsea Smile - Brute - Defiant

Imaginary - Controller - Defiant

Daybringer - Controller - Defiant

Anubis - Scrapper 50 - Vigilance

Openheimer - Controller 50 - Vigilance

FireTaker - Tank - Vigilance

Dr Infernum - Corruptor - Union
Thundercharge - Blaster - Union

Razgul - Scrapper - Defiant

Thaliada - Defender - Zukunft

Flush - Defender - Defiant

Skinz - Scrapper - Defiant

Spectra Phantom - Controller - Defiant

Sunspot - Blaster - Union

Neutreno - Defender - Union

Midnight Gale - Controller - Defiant

E-gen v2 - Controller - Defiant

Omega MCX - Controller - Defiant

Plight Trawler - Blaster - Defiant

Dearch - Corrupter - Defiant

Forbearance - Tank - Union

Knight Stalker - Scrapper - Union
Debt Collector - Brute - Union
Unforgotten - Mastermind - Union

X3 - Controller - Union - @x-treme

Ah thats just great!

Now how am I supposed to remember which characters came from whom? I needed all those posts because certain ones wouldn't be able to fight each other and I need to know which ones!

Well done Bridger!

I'll start the ball rolling then...

Sweet Chilli - controller - union

I am interested in starting a PvP solo league on the test server for all Players of CoH and CoV Europe.
I am interested in starting a PvP solo league on the test server for all Players of CoH and CoV Europe.

Further details and rules will be drawn up and published, once I get an idea of numbers interested. It will be played at level 50 in the arena. You can enter more than 1 character if you wish to do so.

Anyone interested please put your character name, AT and server below please...



List so far:

Sweet Chilli - controller - Union
SinghMC - Scrapper - Defiant

OK....i'll have a crack at this.

No one is saying that PvP is balanced for solo. Thats why I'll do a league and not a cup at the moment. Be nice to know who the best solo'ers are though. People always go on about rock-scissors-paper. Well I think its time we found out who the best rock is, the best scissors and the best paper are.

I don't even know if its balanced for teams to be honest.

Ok Kins...I don't mind having a crack at organising a solo league to find the creme de la creme.

I'll make a post about its soon with all the rules and how the league will work and I'll stick it up. See if anyone signs up and if we get enough them its game on. If we don't get any interested then nothing lost.

I think a league will work because although, as you say, PvP isn't very solo friendly, if its a league, then it should balance out better than a cup.

Stay tooned folks!

Come on then Kins - you're the daddy of the PvP shizzle on Union. Hows abouts you organise a league table and a cup.

Then, we can have a European Cup (on test) against the other servers, where top 3 in the league and the last 4 in the cup battle the other league and cup winners from the other servers.

You can do it for both solo and also a team maybe?

Come on - you know you want to!

Is there any thread on this board that lists all the PvP events and any up and coming competitons that may be organised? Solo and team.

This isn't a bug - its a feature.

Otherwise it would be in the list of known issues. This is to help dual form PB's and WS's.

If I can take the time off from tp'ing into drones and NPC's, I'll be there

The trouble with TP foe is that some people see it as lame and boring. They should be seeing it as them being lame and stupid.

Fair enough, we all get caught out odd times, but if it happens over and over again, then you must see yourself as someone who doesn't learn from a bad experience and quite dumb too.