Stryker_EU

Realm lol. I'm suprised you didn't follow up with "thou shall taste thine steel cur!". Been a while since I actually seen you do anything. I still need to go to Siren's more.

GG I would say that applies to everyone not just experienced players. I can see why you single that group out but repeatedly defeating players isn't the only way of putting people off.

If you want to keep the current PvPers you need to appeal to them, keep interest etc. If you want to draw new players in, you need to make PvP easily accessible, fun from the start and keep requirements to be effective to a minimum. Currently certain powers don't make a difference, acrobatics changes has started things off in making things viable again. Hopefully I13 will bring in more well thought out changes and PvEers who detest PvP for the sake of it realise a good thing when they see it.

Everyone sees Base Raids as a problem because they think stuff needs to be rebuilt after one. When in fact it doesn't. The only time stuff needs to be repaired is when its a scheduled IoP raid, which have never happened. Oh and I concede that people who don't know what they are talking about shouldn't comment.

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you want people to pvp and when they state something you dont agree on. you tell em to go [censored] them selfs and then wonder why some people dont pvp?

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QFT

TO GET MORE PEOPLE TO PVP YOU NEED TO APPEAL TO THOSE THAT DONT DO IT, NOT THOSE THAT DO!!!

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You need to appeal to everyone. Not specific groups.
Everyone should comment on it, whether they PvP or not. Comment as in constructive. Why? because everyone has access to it, whether they want it or not. Except the trial players, they can go rot. Or buy the game.

Probably the side with the least players, get more kills that way.

The only thing that i'd disagree with in this thread which hasn't already been mentioned is that Kinetics is bad with AoE. I think its fantastic, if your solo and want to take out a group of enemies pop an orange, jump in, fulcrum shift and then AoE away. Amazing against Masterminds and even better if you have a tank friend. If your mates the blaster i'd give him the oranges and let him jump in the middle lol. Transferance and Transfusion off any survivors. I think elec is best for this as you get Short Circuit and Ball of Lightning.

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If I say I was trying to provoke GR's disciplinarian side, will you believe me?

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Yes, you can have him. He's all yours.

I thought its meaning was fairly obvious. Looking at the context in which its used also backs this up. Oh and Globey or Spag Bol (not sure who) made it up, so it won't be referenced anywhere. Yet.

Don't spam in other ways on threads like this either.

Off topic much?

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Make it bigger than 5vs5 I wanna play too :P.

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Or fight more than once with different teams.

I look forward to it. Lol @ Non Resistance/Vindicate players who can't join in.

I'd agree with the PvP being most exciting when there are equal sides, beating up annoying people is a close second though.

Ok so there is some skill if you want to cause a player that has insp and some skill in escaping these situations some debt, but the players that are going to be most damaged by cheap tricks such as these will be level 25, never PvP'd before, have no breakfrees and be shocked as its different to PvE. They are most likely to come across as whiney too. Couple of times being teleported into a mob or held within aggro range and they will never come back or improve.

It requires no skill, its cheap and its nasty. The first example is worse as your using a hold which stops the player using insp, knocks off any defences and stops the player at least fighting back. Plus your leaving him so debt will be higher. That alone screams intentional. The second example can be escaped from more easily and i wouldn't consider it griefing if you were doing damage at the same time as the mobs.

How did you go from holding a player so he can't escape and leaving him to mobs to teleporting? Your giving two different examples. In both examples it wouldn't be griefing if you did it as a one off and did more damage than the mobs, but just leaving them repeatedly is definatly griefing.

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Good way to balance between being a PvP'er and a human I reckon.

[/ QUOTE ] What a silly statement. Thats like saying Humans don't get aggressive or want to win - which is very human. Or even worse that PvPers aren't human.

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I was displaying the contrast of being firm (as a PvP'er should be if he wants to get any PvP); yet just, as a human should also be. Though I suppose that depends entirely on the person, which is why I applied those rules only to myself.

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I'll put it down to bad word use, I would have used words that describe what a person should be, as 'human' is too general.

That isn't PvP, its griefing.

Its only annoying if your not expecting it, which is stupid as your in a PvP zone and you should be expecting an attack. Sometimes I attack NPCs just so someone attacks me. Its not cowardly as your stepping up for a fight and risking debt as there are NPCs nearby.

Some PvPers have inhuman skill but you can't put all PvPers in the same category and a better way of putting it would be - PvP and be polite. Anything else and your just showing how ignorant and prejudiced you are.

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Good balance between a PvP'er and a human

[/ QUOTE ] What a silly statement. Thats like saying Humans don't get aggressive or want to win - which is very human. Or even worse that PvPers aren't human.

Pwn

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yeah with 6 slotted hasten ftw

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Lol! please tell me your joking psy?

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He's not, it was an I5 build lol.

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I still beat you with a SO toon.

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It was a tank lol.