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What Hopeling said. Now if they allowed for possessed enemies to follow you around like pets...
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It is my understanding that the charmed critter technically gets a share of the xp, the share is based on how much damage it inflicts.
You can test this easily by charming 2 equal level minions and letting one do a bit of damage. You still will get xp for the kill, just slightly less. You would only get no XP if the charmed enemy kills the his ally without you inflicting any damage.
Given that a charmed critter is not attacking me, and charm effects tend to last longer than holds (i think), charms don't tend to alert the enemy of your presence if multiple applications are required, I think it's darn fair game. -
Not sure, didn't crunch any numbers. Was a passing idea. I guess blasters would need that effect to ramp up quickly so it would have to be balanced to be that way, perhaps designed in a way that degrades... so you get held or distracted you don't get a binary drop off but perhaps after 5 to 10 seconds of inactivity the entire thing would fade out. It would just require you to be active in order to stay defensive.
Another option that crossed my mind is to give blasters a front loaded defense inherent of some sort... perhaps resistance, or defense, or a combination of both that is "always" active. However, you slowly lose it during combat.
The goal would be that a blaster is meant to kill in short fights, but also to survive without instantly killing everything. So, give them the ability to even take a solo sized alpha, the kind of alpha a stalker would survive. Unlike the scrapper, you better start killing fast because you will lose that.
Hmmm.. what if we return the old blaster defiance bar? This time make the bar be full by default out of combat, it degrades by getting attacked, not by attacking.
It refills out of combat. The more full it is the bigger the buff. The buff, ideally, would be based on your primary and secondary following the rules I suggested earlier. A Fire/Devices may have a combo of Resistance and defense, a Fire/Fire would be pure resistance. -
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Also, not directly a blaster buff, but how about we give the Fighting Pool a 5th power that is a mez toggle? One that does not cover KB nor Immob (since we already have those available in other power pool options.)
In addition... what is blaster's resist/def modifiers? I think they are much lower than scrappers. Perhaps they should be higher so they can take better advantage of pool and ancillary powers. -
Quote:Hmmm... fair enough...They must be playing around with something if Synapse implies he's seen a difference playing his blaster, but that doesn't mean what they've done is all they'll do.
I guess one thing I always think about is something similar to The Human Torch. Every time he is going to use fire, he engulfs himself on his flame, protecting him from at least some attacks and not always just fire.
It may make more sense with energy/elemental sets than with physical things like weapons, but what if every attack you inflicted granted you either defense or resistance? Weapon sets like pistols or AR can add positional defense while elemental sets would add resistances.
It would be similar to defiance 2.0, only instead of adding a damage buff it would add a resist or defense buff. Some attacks maybe even add mez protection.
Problem I see is the huge reworking of every power set.
Perhaps its possible to use the tech we see in some incarnate abilities to give every offensive power a 100% proc to resist, ideally if we can categorize somehow the type of target of power that gets such proc (weapon vz non-weapon.) -
Quote:Im just stirring up elements of different things in a melting pot. But what about literal domination equivalent though? Build it up just like dominators: attacking. Be able to activate it for similar benefit: mez prot + ... damage?The domination bar is really only a gate to trigger the domination power, it does nothing on its own. What you're describing is closer to a defensive Fury bar. While its an interesting idea in general, defensive fury doesn't seem to match the blaster concept to me.
At this point I'm just going crazy and having fun with the ideas since I figure the direction is already decided (unless we playing "guess whats actually happening")
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Unfortunately that's not an option. You can't just delete a power from any set, even if it was just one, to accomodate a different power.
Read on the Cottage Rule for developer reasoning.
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Not all blasters get BU or Aim.
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Arcanaville, whatever is comming is comming but suddenly crossed my mind your note to the OP:
"Think about Blasters' closest cousins: Dominators and Stalkers."
This makes me think... stalkers have been called a lot "melee blasters", at least in the old days.
Dominators have a huge overlap with blasters in feel too...
So... how about combining them a bit...
Blasters get a Domination bar!!! As it fills, blaster gains what Stalkers get in their secondary: mitigation and mez protection! -
I think it's the only thing I do in these forums...
Needless to say I have been disapointed I still have not seen a single balance discussion/argument in the Tanker forums since I returned. Every single thread is about X/Y builds.
I ponder if all tankers are content these days, the ones that were discontent just rolled brutes, or it was me that was always starting the fights... -
Quote:Lets say that blasters had their HP boosted. So high it made them just lightly less survivable than a stalker. Let's say they also get inherent mez protection, very low mag, like 3, to some effects, not all.Really, what needs to be done here, would have to be a fresh idea. That would allow blasters to remain blasters. I am speaking for myself, I don't want to lose that style of play.
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Without going into extreme details:
Energy Blast
Sonic Blast
Every Non-Energy Blaster Secondary that has been around since launch.
Energy Melee
Regeneration
Stone Armor
Would also like minor tweaks to:
Ice Melee
Stone Melee
Super Strength
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Quote:Are you proposing the ability to set up your trip/proximity bombs anywhere and use your primary to kick-blast them into the enemy?They can theoretically deal a lot of damage, but not in the same conventional way as other blasters. Perhaps if there was something relatively unique about /devices that could be made to mesh with normal blasting, that would give it a little bit of the kick it needs.
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So... what you are implying is that there may be a set of changes for all blast sets... and then blasters will get a bit more?
Hmm... But no Defiance 3.0... But speculating is fun....
Hmmm...
Blast wise... I dislike the range inconsistency on blaster attacks... their DPAS (IMO) never justifies the range penalty some attacks get. This is an universal blast grudge with me.
Sniper blasts are an issue... I know there was an experiment with Dominator's snipe a long time ago during their rebalance but I didnt like that result. (hopefully any snipe tweak will also revisit those dominator snipes.)
Hopefully the "no defiance 3.0" means that blasters are getting more than just a damage increase. Attacks build "fury" that grants mez/resist perhaps? Your splash mez mechanic?
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Quote:But that's farming, an activity that is heavily dependent on cherry-picking fights. Fire/Kins trollers would likely farm enemies with simply because they were lower risk, not because they had to. Part of the goal of any farmer is to maximize kill speed at the same time you minimize risks.I used to think that mez was the big problem for blasters. But I actually checked and it really wasn't that bad when compared to other ATs. If you remember when Fire/Kins were the giant farmer, they weren't farming maps with mez heavy enemies.
I think the perception that mez is the big problem, comes from the fact that it is a slow and annoying way to die. When it happens it is much more memorable than a quick stabbing.
Farmers are also skilled players, above average. What about the soloist that simply wants to go through story arcs at his own speed? I like my blaster in teams but I really don't solo any story content with them because (at least the first run) I never know how frustrating of an experience it will be.
Mez is not the only issue, some form of survivability boost would be heavily appreciated (cant see many ways to add this without restructuring the Ancilary sets to be broader and earlier.)
But I feel mez is a huge issue, even if it's not the biggest. Perhaps I think this because I can get a healing power from power pools, and I can get a smash/res toggle from power pools, in addition to def, and I can get more resistance from epics... not to mention IO def bonuses (not available to free players) but I cant get mez protection anywhere.
Hmmm... you know just crossed my mind... if they simply increased blaster resist/def modifiers, I would be VERY happy. Same with mez modifiers, at least to a point where Presence/Fear becomes useful for blasters.
Heck, maybe if they added a 5th power to Fighting that granted Mez Protection, Id be happy! At some point I disliked the idea of Pool powers addressing AT issues (since they overkill the issue by also helping other ATs) but my stance on that has changed a lot since the introduction of IOs, not to mention Incarnate abilities. -
Here is a page documenting the demo record process
http://wiki.cohtitan.com/wiki/Demo_record
You can just upload the generated file, no need to actually make a huge video file. -
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You realize that the devs also love seeing you lose bets? Now just to mess with you they will name whatever they are doing "Defiance 3.0", no matter if it's the addition of an Unstoppable-like toggle power!
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OK... looked through those Hybrid thingies... got to admit that control tree does look interesting. I gazed at it before and dismissed it because it just looked like another damage tree (with hold conditions) didn't notice the ability to get mez.
I'd love such a thing on Starsman, always thought tankers should be Melee controllers more than damage dealers. Shame the thing can only be used up to 50% of the time... I would love such a trait to be permanent trait of my tanker... anyways, this a blaster thread.
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Thats the hybrid thingy? (Incarnate abilities have been the lesser point of interest for me since I returned, for me the fun is lvl 1 to 50, that MAY someday change.)
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Quote:Gotcha, I thought your question was specific to offensive sets that granted survivability or damage (early game Ice Melee vz Fire Melee for example.)At the beginning of time both Defensive sets (obviously) and Control sets were designed explicitly to mitigate damage. Buff/Debuff was explicitly designed to do multiple things, but basically increase your offense, increase your defense, decrease enemy offense, and decrease enemy defense.
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Quote:I don't disagree with what you say, but... as far as I know... no set was designed (until recently) with any such specific goals. They were almost all accidents (other than balances brought in huge part due to your own intervention.)Siren's Song is theoretically massive mitigation, but I wouldn't say Sonic Blast is explicitly designed to be a mitigation set. Oil Slick Arrow deals a ton of damage but Trick Arrow isn't explicitly designed to be an offensive powerset. Ditto Lightning Rod. These are interesting (and sometimes powerful) extras.
In any case, for Siren's Song to be a good counter-example to the more general statement that Blasters don't get mitigation powersets, it should be valid to say that any primary blast set that doesn't have mitigation comparable to Siren's Song is broken, in terms of not fulfilling its design obligation.
No one says that.
BTW it crossed my mind it may be sort of thematic if all blaster attacks had a strong chance to "sleep" (with delay, on non-dot powers) with custom animations. Call them "breakable holds", with this chance to sleep being of opposite proportion to the DPA of the attack (the lower the DPA the higher sleep chance.)
If it was all sleeps with custom animations, your idea of splash mez may be even more "acceptable" as it would bring additional solo safety without turning all foes into target dummies. -
Not first hand experience but I recall you used to say Sonic was the blaster's "slow but safe" primary, no? Have not studied the set enough to tell if it's anywhere near another AT's "survivable" attack set.