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Quote:I'm literally talking about Aesthetics (not story telling, or his ability to pump out books). Kirby's rendering, his ability to create a 3 dimensional environment/setting with believable characters in terms of detail, realism, whatever, isn't as good as artists today. That's all. It's not his fault, he was the father of this stuff. But again, that's like comparing a Muscle Car from the 60s to the Prius of today in terms of gas mileage. Times and priorities change. :P It's just different. But Byrne has no excuse. LOL!
((I pretty much agree with you about Byrne. I wouldn't compare him to Jack Kirby. I wouldn't compare anyone to Jack Kirby. The work he did -- and the number of books he put out a month -- was amazing. I've seen some of his original pencils and the printing process back in his day did not do him justice. Neither did his inkers. Some people don't like his style, but you can see his influence in nearly every comic book artist that followed him.
Lollerskates.Quote:JRJR is like... amazing. He started out good an just got... amazing. If there was one word I'd use to describe his work, I'd say... amazing. 
I've met him twice, nice guy
So I hear. :SQuote:And you should check out Byrne's blog. It's nice to read the opinions of someone who knows they're right about everything.
Well, I took a strange route. I was trained as an inker...and while I am a competent inker and I know the skill well... I realized it wasn't what I wanted to DO. I want to pencil. I want to tell the stories (and make more money too <_<) I love that I know how to ink and I will always treasure the abilities and it helped with my penciling and structure SO much, but now I'm in pencil training LOL! So I went from apprenticeship to another apprenticeship XD *facepalm*Quote:And Sorah, you know I cannot wait to see your first credited work! I can see you getting better with every piece you post.))
And at this rate, it seems I may end up writing something before I ever draw legitly ROFLMAO! -
Quote:Ah yes...Originally Posted by Knightslayer
Maybe next time she can make something up? >.>
Like "I was dressed like [Insert a Sorah character here]"
*ahem*
I was wearing Karnal Sin! A shoulder-less short, skin tight dress with a plunging neckline! :O
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Quote:1) I'm not a "stay at home" anything. I just happen to work at home more often than studio.Originally Posted by BigDaddyDream
Sorah...
I was a stay-at-home Father for about 7 years. Not an easy job certainly but WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY better than any job I've ever had.
PS Being able to "work" in your PJs makes it less stressful.
So...what were you wearing?
2) while I love my job, it's not "easy." I have constant deadlines that I have to regulate myself on, all the while attempt at living at the same. I didn't eat for the last 4 days, finally decided I should eat SOMETHING tonight.
3) while I can work in PJs, I try not to. Helps separate my work from home.
4) unlike being a stay at home parent, there is no "sense of a workplace". With my job there is. But unlike a regular job, when I'm done, I am still there, and p.s. Even whn I'm "done" I'm never really done. Blah.
As for my clothes, I was in jeans and a simple smock-tee. :P -
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Quote:You should get in gaaaaaame.Originally Posted by Xanatos
No idea. I logged off from Champions to "go to bed" like 2 hours ago. I hate sleeping. It's unethical.
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Quote:Dude what the hell are you doing up?Originally Posted by Xanatos
Careful, talk about eyes too much and theists will say that they prove deity's exist.
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ROFLMAO I would have just died right then and there.
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Babe...was there...in 2007. I don't remember much...and I was pretty drunk the whole time....*glares at Xan* no one warned me about the excessive amounts of drinking to be had there.
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Everytime I see "Spicy Italian Meatball" I hear it in my head with that really thick, bad, Italian accent. "Aspicy Eetalian Meat-a-ball!" *facepalm*
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Quote:I saw porn on regular TV when I was thereOriginally Posted by Elysienne
Uh... you can? I would have thought that if it were worth watching, I wouldn't have been reading the CoH forums at 5am...
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I'm only 'really' a second generation American. I mean, my white side has been here for a few generations, but I grew up in Korea with my mother, so America confuses the crap outta me.
In all seriousness, if not for some...slightly fortunate circumstances, only slightly...I'd have moved to Europe already. At least I can see porn there on TV. Lol....
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Quote:Sids...this is one of the many reasons that I love you. And I do mean love in that feminist, lesbian, hating men manner...obviously BWAHAHAAHAHAOriginally Posted by sidney_b
No, see... By taking you seriously, I was being the humourless feminist that never finds anything funny at all, ever, because I'm just so angry at the patriarchy for being the man, any man, rawr...
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Quote:YOU BETCHA! *pew pew*Originally Posted by sidney_b
To be perfectly fair to her, she never actually said that she'd done this. That said, many of the things she did say *wink* and do were *wink* so much worse *wink*.
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Quote:ROFLMAO!Originally Posted by Elysienne
Sid, I love you for quoting that quote. It's the most awesome quote unintentionally in favour of social healthcare ever.
Not that you can blame the guy from getting it wrong, though, I guess... I mean you'd never guess from his accent that Stephen Hawking was British.
*HIDES*
America is being levels of retarded..."I don't want a bureaucrat between me and my doctor...who I actually have control over by way of this wonderful thing called democracy...NO! I WANT SOMEONE WHO IS BEING PAID TO SCREW ME OVER TO STAND BETWEEN ME AND MY DOCTOR!"
An interesting thing happened to me 2 years ago.
I got a kidney infection. Now, I had GREAT insurance under my father's policy. He's a fairly important dude, and has great coverage, and I was covered cause I was still in University.
Anyway, it was Memorial Day. All walk in clinics were closed early that could've given me my anti-biotics. So I ended up having to go to the ER. THAT was a fabulous experience, and by fabulous, I mean, I think I'd rather gouge my own eyes out next time. Had I not gotten direct care, I would've die due to renal failure and the like. Anyway, long story short, I lived (obviously haha)....but then...about 2 weeks later...
I was on the phone with our favorite hero, Xanatos (who as we all know is British), and I was lamenting what had happened to me. My bill for the thing was $6,000. I didn't have to pay it cause insurance covered me. However...it was what Xan said to me after I told him the price that made m wanna move the hell outta America...
"Wait, but if you WEREN'T insured, you'd technically have to pay $6,000 for your right to LIVE?"
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Quote:I'm an active feminist...Originally Posted by sidney_b
It is an unfortunate trend, but the wording of that post was very vague. I personally think feminism gets a bad rap; it gets blamed for a lot of things not its fault, like anything certain political groups pin on it. (Don't get me wrong, feminism is to blame for lots of things, but it should only be blamed for the bad things its actually actively caused, like a certain ex-governor.)
But yes, the last few reasons you've pointed out are among the reason why feminism is still relevant, regardless of the silly puff pieces that come out now and then.
In fact, in all of my courses at University, Women's Studies was the most eye-opening subject. I mean, it encapsulates a lot of minorities, but it was freaking amazing how seeing even the SIMPLEST things perpetuate the sexism in the world.
And ROFL on Palin. That woman made me want to get a sex-change out of sheer embarrassment. "I CAN SEE RUSSIA!" I don't care what political party you are part of, that woman was and still is an idiot.
As for the women withholding sex as a way of making change...THAT within itself...is sexist. ROFLMAO I need a drink. -
Roflmao <3
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Quote:ROFL nah. I had rounder drawn eyes then, and I didn't know how to draw eyes. Now I actually understand the structure of an eye <_<Originally Posted by Eiko-chan
What amuses me the most, Sorah, is that your eyes haven't changed a bit. They just fit better now.
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Quote:I didn't say it was the FAULT of it, I'm saying that it's an unfortunate consequence of sociocultural trends. I was just sayin' that now women don't even get the fuzzy end of the stick. So we still have lower paying jobs, we're STILL relegated to our ability to freaking breed, and sexism thrives strongly.Originally Posted by sidney_b
Whoa, I'll have to disagree here and emphatically reject that the "bad boy" is a creation of women. A negative reaction to feminism is not necessarily the fault of feminism. The negative reaction to "political correctness" is not necessarily the fault of the simple concept that maybe racial slurs and prejudices are, y'know, bad.
I'm pretty sure that women were treated crap before the sexual revolution and before most women got the simple temerity to think, "Hey, maybe it'd be nice if I could make decisions that actually impacting things!" or "Maybe I really am more than a complicated life-support system for the uterus!"
It's just that back then the reason no woman complained was because more often than not they'd call her hysterical (root, hyster-), and either keep her quiet with paregoric or eyeshadow applied with fists.
Now that there are women who're strong enough to not want to be pushed around, there are reactionary men, reacting to this progress and wanting to rewind it; there are people who are more than willing to be crude in that "ironic" sense because, oh hey, we're all beyond it now! as if it makes it better. -
Quote:Absolutely true. I see it all the time. A friend of mine got her "first real job" (as she said) and she's....26 :SOriginally Posted by sidney_b
Adolescence is stretching ever longer these days.
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Quote:I'm not taking offense and I will clarify
Here's the bit I mostly take issue with.
"4) Guys who are older generally know what they are doing with their lives, they have a career, and so I don't have to deal with that whole, "WTF am I going to do with myself" phase of ********."
I saw this, and remembered you saying you know a few unique individuals who are "self-actualised." Now, I'm not up on the whole... psyche speak, so I'm pretty uncertain on what being self-actualised is, but I'd presume its largely to do with knowing who you are, what you want to do and aiming towards it.
One would assume that this is a process rather than an instant transition, so I have to wonder why anyone would be unhappy with a person going through the process of asking the questions necessary to move towards becoming a happy, stable person. "What am I going to do with my life" is a very important question, one that may often require the support of friends and loved ones to get through. I also find the idea of anyone KNOWING with absolute certainty what they want to do with the rest of their life by the time they're going to university to be more the exception than the norm. Furthermore, just because a person is older doesn't necessarily make them any more self-aware than their younger counterpart. A case in point would be the classic mid-life crisis.
Self-actualization is a term coined from Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
Psychology basics, so it's relatively easy to understand without a giant amount of background info. That image should sum it easy enough.
I simply meant that, Sorah (speaking third person ZOMG!) at age of 23, has a life/job path she loves and self-defined philosophies. I know who I am, what I stand for, what I am against, and I can damn well argue WHY I have those beliefs. It's about being able to break out of the conditioning being hammered down our throats since birth. Asking yourself the tough questions, refining your thoughts, etc.
Example: Ask your average 20 year old girl where she wants to be in 10 years. She'll say, married, in suburbs, 3 kids, 2 dogs, happily married, etc, etc (gag). Follow up the question with, "Okay....WHY?" And they can't give you a freaking answer because they haven't THOUGHT about it.
I'm not a self-actualized individual though, as I said, it's not a point in time, we fluctuate in and out of all stages, but I am self-aware enough to understand my wants and needs.
Now, your 'average' guy my age, is looking at the bottom 2 tiers of fluctuation. GENERALLY, the older someone is, the more time they have had to establish those 2 tiers as a base point and so can fluctuate on higher levels. It's just how it is. Your college graduate is looking for a job, trying to find a place to live, etc, etc. A 30+ year old (barring medical school and the like), is going to have fallen into a certain niche and routine of surviving.
Also, if you meet someone who is already "fully baked" as an individual (yes, I am comparing people to brownies or potatoes haha), there's less of a chance of growing in completely 2 separate directions.
Now, I KNOW age is nothing but a number, but we're talking statistical realities here. I know 44 year old women who have the maturity/independence level of a 12 year old...men too! I'm just saying that I have better luck finding the caliber of individual I want with an older individual.
Going on a path of "self discovery" is not my idea of fun. I know who I am. I want someone who knows who the **** they are too and I don't want to wait around for someone to catch up with me. That's all LOL. I'm not saying I'm all wonderful and perfect, TRUST ME, I have issues hahahaha.
Quote:Also, just to finish off my Sorah-based attack on a slightly more comical note;
Duuude, you said you value intelligence then emote stabbing yourself. Didn't you know that's one of the stupidest things in the world you can possibly do? *stabs self again just to spite ya* hehehe
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See but I am so not a fan of Byrne's artwork...as an artist :S
I've seen his stuff in the CPL days...and his stuff when he was supposedly "good."
He really didn't really...what's the word I'm looking for...evolve. Now, I know things back then were a little less sleek back then, and art is always changing...but I mean, I also saw my ex-boss' artwork from CPL days...and then his stuff during when he was "good" and his stuff NOW. His stuff is constantly getting better.
It's just my personal opinion. And in terms of aesthetic tastes...I just don't find his squishy figures appealing. And that's what they look like to me...squishy. Like they are made outta marshmellow. Almost harkening back to Kirby days or something, I dunno.
Now, you look at any other artist of his name-recognition caliber? They have almost all grown, changed, adapted, gotten better. JRJR, Bob Layton, Jim Lee, Marc Silvestri, etc.
I think JRJR is the best example to use here though, because he too was, what I call a squishy artist, he's not squishy anymore His stuff looks damn delicious.
That's me. I'm weird. <_<
But seriously, compare:
^------Byrne during CPL
^------Byrne as a professional
(and I think his site is ANTI LINKING or something) so here's the link:
CLICK ME
^------Byrne as of 2008
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^-----Bob Layton during CPL
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^-----Bob Layton as a professional
^-----Bob Layton as of 2008
Hell, from when I STARTED drawing western-style comics:
To what I can do now:
Again, though, we're arguing taste, which is silly LOL!
I hear that the man in question is notoriously...moody? I dunno if that's the right word, so he may like come down on me in the blogosphere calling me a giant *****. LOL Oh wellz. -
I have tried to explain to some people out here in LaLa Land about the gaming-community stigma against SOE. At one point, I had to get out of my seat about it to nail the point home.
They finally got it after I did that :S
SOE = suckfail if they are running something
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I know what you were saying, but I was simply pointing out the sheer ugliness of the game by pointing to Byrne/Lee comparison. But you invoked storytelling by it XD
However, I don't care much about storytelling/immersion comparison in terms of the game cause...
1) I usually hate the content the devs put out in terms of "story"
2) I started my PC gaming with text-based RPGs...LOL I didn't have pictures of character to look at XD -
Quote:See I completely disagree with this. I don't think that something's aesthetic appeal has anything to DO with storytelling. I can look at a freaking model posing for a pin up and go, "Damn she's hot." Doesn't mean I wanna see her in a movie :S or care about her story...Originally Posted by Heroid
((Gotcha. But there is a connection between the two, even in video games. Something that looks great as a stand-alone 3-D model might not look so good when moving through a game environment, part of my beef with CO.
The characters don't look like they're really interacting with the environment, even when they lift a heavy object and throw it (which all of them can do -- super-strength not required, which sucks
). In a comic book, it is the way the artist tells the story that pulls me in more than the way he draws his figures. CO could have had a cartoony look, and still had awesome, immersive graphics, but they didn't succeed (at least in my opinion).
We were talking about the sheer ugliness of the game :P Not the interactive bits
I understand liking someone's artistic ability and not liking their STORYtelling ability, but again, I don't see ANY connection about what we were discussing. I literally was just saying the the characters in the game are lumpy and ugly.Quote:So, though I probably failed to make my point clear earlier (it was as unclear as my CO character's face), what I said about the things I like in a comic book artist applies to my CO experience.
Only ugly people like CO.....Quote:And all of this is my opinion. I'm no expert. If you like to play CO, then I hope it only gets better for you. But it's not for me. ))
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I was discussing artistic aesthetics, not storytelling silly