SinisterDirge

Wait, so the reward is not based on spawn size, but the size of the actual team?

So as I am soloing a spawn set for 8, the risk/reward is considered less than if I was doing it with a full team of 8? Thats kinda borked.

Either way, I'd still prefer to run solo unless I am going a bit stir crazy and want someone to chat with... Global chans are good for that anyway.

Heh... Wonder if it is feasible to make it targetable, so you can set it off with another attack. The mechanic is in the game with oil slick, no matter how buggy it is, it would probably still work better than the current set up.

You can set your mish's to solo +4's above you, and with enough mobs for 8...

Way better drops/xp than on a team... If you can do it fast enough.

And when they say SB NAO! while they are still buffed... right click, add note.

I think I figured out your problem...

You mean you wern't quoting the Dos Equis commercials?

Then dont gloss over points that dont support your argument.

In terms of playability, the game is already playable.

Of the people that agree with you and find end management difficult, most are suggesting/supporting a reduction in the recharge time of rest. I dont think that indicates support for your position of globaly changing the function of endurance.

Sure, a blaster can solo all the way up to 50 by doing damage, but in my opinion, it will be very tedious. More tedious than a defender that can mitigate some of that incoming aggro by making the mobs hit like kittens, or make them feel like they are being hit with big ******* sledgehammers. Again, that is the balance between the two AT's.

I think you are mistaken in that assesment. How have you come to that conclusion?

But it is a given that they are unbalanced against each other? How did you come to that conclusion?

No. I expect you to objectively look at the problem you are having, see if you can alleviate the issue on your own. If you cant, you can then ask for help in the forums for ideas on how to fix your problem, and actually try them out before you say they dont work. If they still dont work, find out WHY they dont work before posting that you want the devs to globaly fix something that isnt in fact broken. Not subjectively say you are not having fun, fix it.

Great idea. Different game.

I'll tell you what is told most new players when they come to the boards and complain about how dead the game is.(They are not complaining about end issues mind you.)

This game relies heavily on instances, where most people playing are inside missions (Has been that way since mission xp bonus was started. Street sweeping died). Also, with mission teleports, ouroboros portals, SG ports and such, people are offered many faster, and easier ways to get back and forth to where they want to go, without using the trams. The best way to find teams is to join your servers main chat channel and say hello. You can also use the team find window to great effect.

Since you have been around awhile, here are some other changes you may remember that have affected percieved population drops. Global channels were introduced allowing like minded people to create channels and use them as a means of communication. With the changes to how you can set up your missions, the broadcast channels are not as active now, as farmers have no need to pad missions. PI is no longer inundated with lowbies begging for pl's. The ssk changes have made bridge requests obsolete. Also, with the free character transfers given out around christmas, many people have switched toons all over the place. For instance, many pvpers decided to head to freedom.

In my opinion, many of these changes have made the game more fun to play. The mission difficulty changes, and the new ssk system have definately kept me subscribed for longer.

As far as actual numbers go, I will take quality over quantity anytime. That does not discount new players. People who are eager to learn about, and play this game are always welcome on my team.

He has been known to cure narcolepsy, just by joining your team.

His organ donation card, also lists his cigar.

He’s a lover, not a fighter, but he’s also a fighter, so don’t get any ideas.

Even his parents’ build advice is insightful.

He is left-handed. And right-handed.

Even if he forgets to target a mob, the attack gets there.

You can see his charisma from spece.

He once punched a carnie. That’s right. You heard me.

If a monument was built in his honor, Talos would close, due to poor attendance.

His cigar alone has experienced more than a lesser man’s entire body.

His blood smells like cologne.

On every continent in the world, there is a sandwich named after him.

Respected archaeologists fight over his discarded desiccated husks.

He is... The most interesting scrapper in the world.

Stay bloodthirsty my friends.

I hope everyone is as respectfull of your playstyle, as you are of everyone elses.

Edit: Thanks for the rep comment. Here's the quote. "I hope your mum is respectful of my tadger in her face!"

-Doubt she would even notice it little guy...

That I am aware of? No. However, rest has not changed at all afaik(I could be wrong) and remains the same as when the game was released. There were not nearly as many options to deal with end issues back then, so I dont know what it would teach besides dont bite off more than you can chew. Which is apparently a lesson still needed to be learned by some folks anyway...

Edit 1: I stand corrected. Thanks M_E!
Edit 2: Before people complain that the challenge of biting off more that you can chew is actually fun, I agree with you. Biting of more than you can chew and then complaining about it, is lame.

That suggestion has come up in this thread, and to my knowledge, has not been shot down as a bad idea. I dont see it as terribly unbalanced and I am all for a semi-instant recharge as long as it still can not be used in combat.

You can read the email from whatever faction it came from, you cant claim attachments sent from the other faction though.

Square peg round hole!

You respectfully ignored 75% of my arguments.

So you do indeed want something for nothing. You dont want there to be any consequences to choices you make in the game. Guess I read your mind after all. Spooky.



I think it is safe to say you have different expectations of the game than most other subscribers.

So to clarify for me, only damage matters?

Sorry, you definately said 90% of the time. Not alot of the time, not a signifigant amount of time. Everyone solo's 90% of the time. You are not everyone, sorry to break that to you.

To some degree? EVERYTHING in this game is designed to balance it to some degree. If you take a little bit off of one side of an even weighted scale, is that scale still balanced?

The problem I have, is when you ask something in an altruistic tone, but cannot be objective about it, means it is a subjective, and selfish request. That seems to me as though you are not actually being altruistic. You ask for something the same way a 9 year old asks for ice cream for everyone, just so that he gets some. He doest actually care if everyone else got some, as long as he did.

Is that a lie? Debateable. Is that deceitful? I would say so. You dont care about the new player, or anyone else for that matter. As long as you are happy.

The problem for you, is that balanced is unfun.

Yet you cannot see that the classes dont suffer imbalances and are already balanced against each other. That does not mean they all specialize in the same thing.

You have access to the same things I do. That is equality. That means you have access to everything in the game. If that is not what you mean, you will need to communicate what you mean in a way that people understand. Being purposely vague does not help.

Now, it would seem as though you dont want there to be any AT's period. You would probably also like to get rid of powersets and just pick whatever powers fit your theme the best. Thats fine, sounds great. Also sounds like a different game entirely.

I believe powerset prolifieration will one day port a super strength powerset to scrappers, with modifications to some powers. Tankers will never get force fields, sorry. Defenders also wont get the defensive sets of tankers, brutes, scrappers, or stalkers just because they share the same etymological root in their powerset and AT names.


Oh, you know this because you have telepathic abilities? How do you know why they are quiting then? With all due respect, I doubt that you have your finger on the pulse of this game mate.



There could be many reasons. You might be on at a low pop time, however span that over several weeks, and that explanation seems unlikely. Perhaps there is a bug with the team search window, and you could be nominated for the bug hunter badge. Perhaps everyone but five people on your server have you on ignore. Maybe, as you spend 90% of your time solo, you just were not paying attention and didn't care what others were doing, as long as it didnt interfere with your fun. Anyone can pull reasons out of thin air eh?

You are SOOO close, just a little more, and you might understand a little about game balance, keep trying...

... Oh... and you lost it. Here you go once more. The same dicrepancies accross the AT's are what actually balances them against each other. That is what makes them different AT's. If you dont want to play a super hero game that is AT based, you should perhaps conserve your efforts here and concentrate on developing that game you keep talking about.

In our time together, I believe I have gained some insight into the way you think. Its easy really. The only people you respond to with any sort of appreciation, are those that agree with you. All the evidence I need to make this assertation are in this small, short thread you have posted in a couple times. Anyone that posts anything contrary to your point, politely or not, you restate your position in the exact same way, and hope that no one notices. Besides, if you appreciated it, I bet we would've had a better dialog. Right now I feel like I am talking to an automated phone system that says "I want more end. If you agree Press one. If you dissagree, please hang up and call again".


You can't even answer the simple question of what you would give up to have more end. Not being able to give anything up is the same thing as wanting no consequences.

"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice." Rush - Freewill

I thought you wanted to see if a signifigant amount of people feel the same way as you do.

You also said that team based buffers should be able to solo and do as much damage for the same amount of endurance just as well as toons that dont get any buffs or debuffs. You ignore the fact that some toons do more than just damage.

You also think that everyone is soloing 90% of the time.

You wouldnt miss the endurance mechanic if it was removed entirely.

You wern't asking for you, you were asking for the new players! You were asking for the betterment of the game! Well, okay, maybe you are asking for you after all.

You are baffled by the thought that anyone would design a game in any way that may be "Unfun". Or, as most people would say "balanced".

No one should suffer a dissadvantage in relation to anyone else, regardless of experience, build, reflexes, skill or even IQ.

You would love if everyone had access to everything because then everything is the same. Then the game is based on skill. You also ignore the current game where everyone has access to everything, have the same chance to do everything, and where the game is based on skill.

You have secret logs and datamining to show that people are quiting because of end issues. Especially new players.

5 people logged onto your server TOTAL for a couple weeks. Must be end problems.

You said defenders use the same endurance for their Energy Blasts as Blasters, but do half the damage(Actually, its .75 when solo). Thus, they use twice the endurance defeating the same foes. That's not equality. Yet ignore the fact that while defenders are blasting, they are also buffing themselves, and debuffing the mobs, making them easier, and safer to defeat, for the same endurance.

You said you actually don't think simply universally increasing endurance would completely fix things, You want it equalized out in relation to damage only. Buffs/debuffs, controls, and aggro management apparently should cost no end because nobody uses those to defeat mobs in this game.

Anything else you wanted to add/detract?

I dont think wanting no consequences to choices you have to make in this game to be reasonable at all. In comic terms, what is your kryptonite Ultimo_? Not just yours, what should everyones kryptonite be?

In a very rational and respectfull manner, I dissagree that you appreciate it.

Sorry Johnny, I didn't realize you had made an actual point in this thread, and you were not just here to emotionaly support Ultimo_

Glad you know exactly what powers a hundred and fifty thousand people do, and dont want. Do you keep them all in your head, or have to write them down at all?

I, as well as many other people in this thread have responded to you and Ultimo_ in ways besides trolling the both of you. Funny thing is, is you both ignore valid arguments, and instead, respond to the flames. Just because that is what you respond to, does not mean that every poster that does not share your point of view is in the same clique.

This is the first time I have had any interaction with either of you. Guess what my first impression is? Open minded? Reasonable? Debates well? Great to spar with? All these qualities I can respect, even if I dont agree with your point of view. However, these are not qualities you have choosen to show.

I dont think anyone has said that it is liked. Many have said that it is very easy to make it a non issue. Personally, I would rather they increase the infl. cap than make a blanket change to endurance that may have unexpected consequences and may make is necessary for me to respec 50 toons who already have no problems running out of end. There is no magic to it. I am sorry you cant make a iron man clone, really I am. I guess I am just happy to use the tools they have given me to build my toons. That does not make me "broken".

Its a great place to slot the numina, miracle, and regen tissue uniques though isnt it?

To use your analogy, Its actually much closer to "Hey guys! We figured out how to get quartz! Quartz is always close to gold! Let us show you how so that you can get some too!" If you question how helpfull the community is, I suggest you look to the guide section. I am sure you have access, I dont believe that it is there for everyone except Johnny_Butane, Ultimo_ and "nubs".

I dont think we should ask for a global change for the better to something without being willing to take a global hit to something. I dont want to take a global hit for something that does not inconvience me in the least. Its not about accomplishments, who cares? There are many "nubs" who have way more 50's and infl. than I. Think I care that people can have H/Veats at 20 now? Not. At. All.

Johnny, everyone knows your Epeen is bigger, without you, we wouldnt have unlimited respecs, invuln wouldnt have been buffed(Thanks for IO's too man, think that was better for invuln than the def debuff res) Power customization is the direct result of your vocal clique as well if I understand correctly. Compared to you, I am hung like a flea. SO glad that carries so much weight with me.

I'm genuinely not interested in reading it, thanks.