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Originally Posted by Lothic

For what it's worth the "bridal veils" are much, much simpler to implement animation-wise than realistic looking hair. The veils are a single "sheet" of material whereas hair would have to be made up of hundreds (if not thousands) of elements to look realistic.

That's very much an "apples and oranges" scenario you're trying to equate here.

Originally Posted by Jeuraud

I could see Spiderman as being Mutation and Science, where the spider bite was the catalyst that activated a mutation in him, that for anyone else would have just killed them.

Originally Posted by srmalloy

I got an answer back from the support ticket I opened. Apparently having characters receive missions in a zone that is no longer accessible to them, and which can only be completed in the "temporal echo" of the zone -- requiring that you either have the Ouroboros Portal power or have access to a supergroup base with the Pillar of Ice and Fire to even get to the zone -- is "working as intended".

Basically, the devs took the quick-and-dirty way out, and didn't bother to adjust any of the missions that were in Dark Astoria, relying on the ready availability of Ouroboros portals for characters to be able to get to the "Echo: Dark Astoria" zone where they can complete them. And, in the process, shafting Rogues again; a Rogue on a team of heroes with a mission in "Dark Astoria" is unable to participate, as the hero and villain Ouroboros zones are still disjoint, and the redside Ouroboros zone provides no way to get to either Echo: Galaxy City or Echo: Dark Astoria.

Originally Posted by Gideon

Clarkes 3rd Law: Any Sufficiently advanced form of technology is indistinguishable from magic.
Technomancer's Law: Any sufficiently advanced form of magic is indistinguishable from technology.

I see what you did there

(Also, Programmers Law: Any sufficiently advanced form of technology is indistinguishable from a rigged demonstration.)

Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex

That's not what I mean. I mean "intentional" in the sense that "I am performing science!" not that the results of said science were predictable. I would make the call based on how close to scientific processes I felt the character was; Lawn of the Dead below was a weed created by the Monsanto Company, so, Science. A character not pictured, Richter Snail, was a sea snail that came into contact with toxic sludge: for me, that's a Mutant, because he's continuing to evolve, not continuing to experiment, and the character has no real interaction with Scientific trappings except that he now fights for the cause of good, just because.

Originally Posted by srmalloy

You're missing the fundamental difference. In CoH, Technology is a "You do this, you get that" process; Science is a "You do this, you get... what the hell is that?" process -- Technology is consistent, Science is unexpected consequences. It's better to think of it as "Mad Science", rather than just Science. The root of a Science origin is that, even if it came about through the application of technology, the results were vastly different than what was to be expected, and doing it again may not give the same results.

Originally Posted by Oedipus_Tex

I'm not sure how the game classifies it, but I consider Mutation to include the possibility of both "being born" or "being transformed." The Toxic Avenger would be a probable example of Mutant for me. So would Godzilla (assuming the "created by atomic bomb" origin is used.) Both are essentially Mutation accidents that are the indirect results of Science or Technology. I tend to think of Mutation, in general, as being undirected, where Science is intentional--however this really gets convoluted if the powers the Science character was trying for are different than what s/he ended up with. So there is a lot of flow between categories.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger

Personally I think it sounds something like

Originally Posted by Kangstor

Actually there is one robot (or android as it has a high artifical inteligence) I may consider as a science origin. In one of Asimov's stories about three robot law "I, Human" protoganist robot started to develop organic prosthesis to be used on people and slowly replaced its metal body with them. I remember at the near of end he was asking someone if he could be counted as humansince he had emotions and organic body.

Originally Posted by Elf_Sniper

Both Spiderman and Hulk could also be explained as Mutation origin. Their genetics/dna/whatever were altered from the "human norm" during their origin story.

Originally Posted by Zwillinger

Anything is possible. I'll certainly pass along the suggestion to the development team.

Originally Posted by GreenFIame

You guy do realize this is a April Fool Joke, we aren't even going to get any of them on the market.

Originally Posted by NekoNeko

Come on, folks, take a look at the calendar.

Geeeeeeez, ya gotta draw some people a picture.