Scarlet Shocker
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Quote:Originally Posted by Coin
uh oh.....look what the Jazz dragged in
Hey just cuz your youngest has better musical taste than his old man...
welcome back mate.
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Quote:Originally Posted by The_Thorny_Devil
About 200 now combined. Not counting hidden, or people who only play during the day, or people of on their easter holidays, or people out having Friday night fun. Yes it needs more people, but its not as badly populated as you make it out to be.
I'd mostly agree with this.
Numbers are severely down but it's not quite dead yet. -
if we have any kind of family feel, it's a bit like how the parents feel after the local priest babysat the boys the night before!
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Quote:Sorry? Have we met?Originally Posted by Coin
Well, I've re-subbed after several months off and thought I'd see what I missed.
Any good happen? Is Damz still not house-trained? Has Scarlet Shocker stopped listening to crappy music? Is Dreamweaver still daaaaammmn sexy?
Come on people, give me some goss!
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Quote:Originally Posted by The_Thorny_Devil
I don't see why it would kill off the servers. As Fury said, a lot of people are loyal to their EU servers, including yourself according to your sig. I wouldn't leave defiant. I'd prob move a few old 50s to another server and keep playing on Defiant. That's where my SG and VG is, that's where all my friends are. And players NA side will visit our servers due to curiosity and for the extra slots, I have read on these forums that fact myself. (I can't remember where, I think it was one of the many 'merge the server' threads).
Yeah but given how few people are on Defiant now, compared with even a year ago - I strongly suspect it would be the final nail in the EU servers collective coffins. Sure we'd get a small influx of players from NA to redress the balance but even (as JD suggested) if the popular servers were closed off - it would open maybe not a floodgate but a haemorragic drip that wouldn't take too long to denude the servers entirely.
For sure I'll stick on Defiant for as long as it's there but that's largely cuz it's where I started and I'm an obstinate bustid!
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Quote:But back in the day we didn't know any better. the 48k had 7 colours and the 128k had the built in tape drive IIRCOriginally Posted by Samuel_Tow
Crap, now I wish I'd saved mine. I did have one of those in your pic, but since this needed to be connected to a tape recorder, I never used it. I had a newer version, I think, that had the cassette reader built into the device, and mine had at least four colours, roughly comparable to CGA graphics of later times.
Man, that had some good games on it, too. The sinisterly hard Green Berets, the awesome Army Moves, and who doesn't remember Jetpack? But that thing was a pain and a half to load games in. The awful sound already mentioned, the minutes and minutes of strange wavy lines and psychedelic graphics on your TV screen...
I still have a box of old games for that, too, though most of them I didn't play. Things like Gauntlet, Attic Attack, Lunar Jetman and the various vector space sims I was just too young to really appreciate, being, what... 5? A lot of old games like that I remember as being hideously hard and utterly confusing, only to go back to them and find out I was simply too stupid to grasp basic concepts, and they're actually quite easy. Not Green Berets, of course, but still
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Quote:Originally Posted by EU_Damz
Bit confused how they can spread 20 levels over 2/3 zones [must presume the one zone is used for the high levels since in the DP video that high level character fighting the clockwork didnt take them down in one shot did he], since 1 - 20 is over in a flash really.
The hollows is a 5 - 15 zone and can be done in a couple of hours. Cant be that many arcs in that level range since one arc can get you from say 5 - 10 in one go so two/three arcs and your there? Must create a new character/flashback to get the others?
WW said in an interview this year is all about content after GR is released and im sooooooo going to hold her to that word
I want more than a handfull of arcs!
I guess that it gives you a different route from 1-20 per character.
You may well be able to get from 1-20 in one or two zones... but I think the Devs learned from the Hollows which for a long time was almost mandatory - by the time we got the Police Band missions it killed the Hollows dead because everyone was sick of it - and it took revamping it to get it back.
Now it's rightfully back to its place as one of the best combination of zone & arcs in the game and is very enjoyable - but doesn't have to be done all the time by every toon. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Blue Rabbit
Oooo! I still have mine!
^_^
And your Spectrum too?
Speccies were great! A real revolution. It's such a shame their next model was the C5 -
46 here.
maybe us old timers could one day form an SG - what would we call ourselves? Depends on how we're feeling I guess. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Fleeting Whisper
What makes you think a handful of free character slot tokens for EU only is any more "on the cards" than a server list merge?
The devs haven't said anything about a list merge, but neither have they ever said anything about preferential treatment to the EU. I don't know of any dev post stating the technical or legal infeasibility of the list merge (though I could be wrong), but that's the only reason that I personally would make such a blanket statement.
War Witch has posted and ruled out any merge.
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Quote:Originally Posted by GlubGlub
you still havn't answered the question though. how would it hurt you if the us got the same free slots? why make it just for the eu?
i am not for or against it in any way. i havn't filled all the slots on any of the servers, but some have, and i don't understand the thinking of giving it to eu only.
I've addressed that a few times but essentially the basic need is greater in the EU... and it would also benefit the EU a lot more if they felt some special love from NC. We have traditionally only ever been treated as an afterthought - and NC effectively having zero presence in the EU now - which leaves many players in Europe worried for the fate of the game - it would be a very welcome, positive signal that the EU actually matters to the company.
It's not simply about the additional slots per se. It's also about NC demonstrating they actually do care about the EU. -
Quote:Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
No more than you did.
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Quote:Originally Posted by Vanex_NA
We definitely and utterly DO NEED a server LIST merge, here are your answers:
1) cross-server teaming + server LIST merge will help against low population
2) server LIST merge will give everyone 15 servers to enjoy
3) cross-server teaming + server LIST merge will help against inability to team with the wider community
then one single global channel for TFs, one for badgehunting!
Thank You War Witch for "bringing people together", I appreciate it so much.
Well whether you believe this or not (and I don't necessarily agree that a list merge will solve much, it'll just kill off the EU servers for good) it ain't gonna happen!
So the only way for the EU community to thrive is with an influx of new blood. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Judgement_Dave
Ever noticed how the flag made from States' cape moves even though there's no wind?
Are you implying that Incarnates don't fart -
Quote:Originally Posted by ClawsandEffect
Didja really have to make a thread about it?
Didja really have to respond to the thread about it? -
Quote:Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
If you've filled up all 36 slots, how are 5 more going to help you? That's what I mean by maxed out. And yes, I've seen several posts like that since the forum merge, a situation brought about by having so few servers.
Under my proposal it would be 10, 5 per server.
It gets people back in time for them to experience GR and then (assuming the content's good enough) they will stay and perhaps even buy more slots.
My proposal isn't a universal panacea - it's one suggestion that I believe would help reinvigorate the EU servers.
War Witch has expressly said that there are no plans for a sever merge - and as things currently stand in the highly unlikely scenario that a list merge took place any returning EU players with maxed acounts would be forced to play on a new server to play GR content - or buy more slots.
If a server list merge takes place the EU servers would become more ghostly than Triumph. -
Quote:Yes but a server list merge isn't on the cards.Originally Posted by Techbot Alpha
I dont think adding more slots would help.
I DO think a Server List merge would help.
Why? Well, for a start there would be no more 'This side or that' feeling. NA vs EU, or whatever. There would also be no more confusion over buying a code/upgrade pack, only to find it only works on the other side.
In the past I was very much against it, possibly due to ingnorance and naivety
I think there may be a technical reason for it not happening atm...which is a shame. But, as far as I can make out (which admitedly isnt all that great) a server list merger would be the best way to help out, possibly on both sides.
Hence I'd like to see something done to improve things in the EU. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Red Valkyrja
Bill, War Witch alluded to something in the works, but was able to give scant information on it.
Now, when she says "merge the servers" is she referring to the oft asked for 'single server environment' or what many of us would like to see 'merging the server lists'? The "in-game" comment seems to lean towards this, and it would negate the need for extra slots on the EU side.
I'm pretty sure if there'd been a list merge possible, she'd have mentioned it but her emphatic response indicates nothing's changing. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Memphis_Bill
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Well, I agree with Umbral, somewhat. If it benefits the game by doing so for one group, why not benefit the whole game by doing so for both? Not in the name of "fairness," just - oh, common sense, I suppose. Why not get everyone excited?
Of course, the flip side of this is that I've seen several posts by EU (English server) players that they've already used up all their slots. I can't help but wonder if the French and German servers are in worse shape in that regard - in which case, extra slots won't help. If the population won't support (financially, I don't mean players going "yes, please!") extra servers there - have we gotten official word about why or why not a server *list* merge (no more EU/NA) couldn't be done? I think that'd benefit the EU side more than slots. (Yes, even non-English. French and French-speaking Canadian, for instance, would have a few more people to play with. German... well... )
(I want to say we have, but heck if I can remember it.)
How would extra slots not help? If you've got a max of 12 (maybe more if you've paid for them) and you're maxed out on all of them, how could being given 5 extra slots not benefit you? If nothing else it has the potential to entice someone back to play the game until they've filled all those slots wtih 50s -
Quote:Originally Posted by Umbral
So your argument is that EU should get something for free simply because they have fewer servers to choose from, and your counter to the argument that it's not fair is simply saying that it is in fact fair? You're not doing all that good of a job of convincing anyone or anything or the need for it. Just because you say it's fair (and operating under the assumption that any significant portion of the people that no longer play will be operating at max character slot capacity so that they would actually have some use for the extra character slots) doesn't mean that it's even remotely true.
Something else you should ask yourself is, if this is going to benefit the EU servers, why not just do the exact same thing to the American servers as well? If you honestly believe that it's going to bring back that many people to the game, why not do it to the larger market as well (which would actually make it fair because both sides are getting the same thing), especially since you can reasonably assume that the proportion of people that sign back up are probably equal on both sides.
Honestly, I don't see much reason. A vast majority of the people I know don't even use up the existing slots on one of their servers. The only people I know of that have filled up the slots on the servers are those that have been playing forever, so they already know what the game is getting. You can't simply assume that those slots will actually be used by someone that stopped playing, especially when you're attempting to draw back players that stopped playing a while ago and likely didn't use up their existing slots when they were playing.
There are plenty of EU players who have maxed out.. It was an entirely common phenomenon before we could buy new slots and several people had more than one account as a result - In these straightened times that's far less feasable.
Why not give them across the board? Because the NA servers have plenty more to choose from to begin with. Not necessary - there are mechanisms in place for those playing on the NA servers to boost their numbers - the recent free server transfers benefitted the NA players way more than the EU, simply because they could shuffle much more readily. We didn't have that luxury. Moving from one server to another almost full server or to a place where you don't speak the language?
The North American players can reach servers where there's a healthy population to play with at peak times currently. Sadly that's not generally the case any longer in the EU. The numbers of those logged on are well down on a year ago and have declined steadly in the four years I've been playing. This is one way of addressing that balance in conjunction with the biggest release for the game since I6.
Finally, your post has mostly been attacking my suggestion for suggesting that it's ok to be unfair in one regard, but you've not actually looked at the suggestion in the round. Explain to me how it could harm the game if you believe it's a bad idea. If it doesn't work as well as hoped, very little is lost, but it could be a very positive incentive. -
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Quote:Originally Posted by Hercules
I'm hoping that if you decide to turn your villain to blue-side ... that the demons turn into something appropriately heroic.
I just can't see a hero using demons...
I guess it's how you use the power not what it looks like that defines your good/evil balance.
If you are blessed (cursed?) with the ability to summon demons, then that's what you get to do. But once you've summoned them... well what do you with them? It can make for some very interesting dramatic RP.
Note to those who have critiqued the magical side: Althought many have already demonstrated the rich comicbook legacy of magic use in the superhero genre, there's nothing to say that your demons must actually be magical. They could be hard light holograms, or extra-scary robots or mutant outcasts you've taken under your wing or....
From my PoV I just think the whole thing looks [expletive deleted] [expletive deleted] [expletive deleted]cool -
The short answer is I have no idea. I don't yet know what's involved - and if any of my toons were to switch, there'd need to be a good reason for it.
I've a couple of characters who may move - but I cannot be sure.
I've two characters who won't switch at all - I can say that for certain. -
Ok we've had a long discussion about the fate of the EU servers. Many of you across the other side of the pond may will be oblivious to it but there's a good number of EU players who rightly feel a strong sense of inequality between the two markets - a very heavy bias in favour of the North American servers.
I'm not proposing to get into that debate here. We've had it in the thread I am linking to - but I posted a reply in that thread and it struck me that a great way to reinvigorate the EU servers would be simple: Give every EU account 5 slots per server for free. Then tie it in with a Free Activation Week just before GR hits.
That's right. Gratis. Zip. For NOTHING. Simply out of the Goodness of NCSoft's proverbial heart.
So why? What's the benefit?
Simply this: Players, past and present will get notified in time for GR, and will be encouraged to get into the game, check out their shiny new free slots, make some new toons and see everyone else doing the same - as GR lands and there's a natural influx of returning and new players. Those who've not played for a long time can then see the changes to the game, can use their free slots to explore the new zones and get a taster. Of those returning, I bet a good number would reactivate their account - and probably buy GR into the deal.
This would also help to address a fundamental inequality between the EU and the NA servers. In the EU if you only speak one language, you are limited to at best 2 servers. If you only speak French or German (you're probably not reading this) you only get one server. 12 Slots in a native state. In NA, you get 11 servers (I believe may be out a bit there) but with 12 slots per server... doesn't take a genius to work out the difference.
The beauty of this is that it actually costs Paragon Studios almost nothing. Sure, they lose revenue from selling 5 extra slots but they weren't gonna get that revenue anyhow. It means that the EU can encourage players back and each account could potentially hold 41 slots per server. It's not giving away the earth but it does mean a nice goodwill gesture that would have real benefits for the EU revenue stream.
Yeah I know many across the pond would then be up in arms: "The EU are getting free slots, no fair!" Actually very fair - and benefits the game as a whole. -
Quote:Originally Posted by Carnifax_NA
I believe the traditional refrain is "Busted!!!"*
Good to see The Damz has still got it
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