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Originally Posted by Arcanaville

I can't attest to who was or was not in the Shard itself during I9 beta, but I can say with certainty that having been in basically *every* closed beta your portrayal of it is basically fantasy. *I* was testing Pool A drop rates in I9 beta from almost the very beginning. In fact I started a thread with my drop rate results only to discover someone else had beaten me to it, whereupon I dumped my results into their thread and then switched to testing Pool B end of mission drops. And in between the love-fest posts which are the only ones you apparently saw or remember testers were complaining about, and making suggestions regarding things such as common IO recipes, salvage storage, ingredient-recipe inconsistencies, and the like. I also hammered the devs on things like LotG and GotA being unique, and all the tohit buffs in the invention system (which caused them to get changed to accuracy buffs). There was massive testing and critiquing going on in I9 closed beta.

There wasn't as much opportunity to be highly critical for Issue 10, but there was a lot of testing of the RWZ and its missions, and those were pretty broken at times. And of course, while people were fawning over Positron they were also complaining about things like the mole machine.

Issue 11 was back to form. People complained about the way combos worked, they complained about the performance of Willpower, they complained about the stalker version of Willpower. The players also specifically got two changes to Willpower: they got its immobilization weakness removed after repeated complaints that lack of immobilization was potentially worse than lack of knockback protection because critters are designed to be able to perma-immobilize in many cases, and they got quick recovery moved from tier 7 to tier 6 which is a massive difference for scrappers and brutes: it makes the power available at level 20 - when stamina would first become available - rather than 28. The testers also beat the crap out of the Ouroboros system and complained about the temp power attenuation.

There was a lot of back and forth testing and debate over Cimerora and the VEATs in Issue 12, day jobs and the merit system in Issue 13, and even the architect in Issue 14.


For you to characterize the closed betas in the way you do, I have to assume you either weren't actually there, or you were there and were not an active participant, or you have such a loaded perspective that you were incapable of seeing what was going on around you. To say the testers were not rigorous or critical in *any* of the closed beta tests going all the way back to CoV beta - and I was in every single one of them - is so contrary to the facts that its insulting. And its personally insulting to me, because the issues related to this patch are things *I* personally tested in Issue 14 beta and reported on, so if you're saying that these issues are due to the quality of the testers of I14, then you're specifically saying that about me.