RabidBrian

Oh wow who would have thought it would be hard to get advice on an EM toon?

Build for defense. Your primary really does not benefit all that much by +rech or anything, so build for defense. You may have issues keeping aggro with whirling hands and EA secondary (has no taunt aura if I recall correctly) so Ide suggest picking up at least a PPP aoe or taunt.

Realistic suggestion, roll a new brute. If this is going to be your first io'd out brute, spend the money on something else. EM will disappoint you the minute you play next to a ??/ brute.

Actually I believe the chart he is talking about is the gloomless chart.

Its litterally like....TF+BS+ET+EP....that may not be it but I know you use both tf and et in it. It does not have long recharges, the self damage allows for the recharge to be shorter than normal (20 instead of 25 or so.) The whole point (not positive, but pretty sure) of the self damage is to allow the recharge and endurance costs to be lower.

I just read a quote by castle and ghost falcon regarding powerset balance where their response was "is it fun." It came from the late april Q&A I am pretty sure. This solidifies the sets (EM) imbalance -by their own terms- to me...

No you do not have to prepurchase. The prepurchase deal is you get to start playing it now instead of having to wait for GR release. If you choose not to prepurchase, you will be able to start one once GR goes live (and you have it purchased.)

Performance balance has nothing to do with the bare minimum necessary for a set to be considered balanced. Its all based on comparing it to comparable sets. If it were based on the bare minimum, we would never see a buff, just an endless rotation of nerfs until all sets were at that bare minimum.

So the question is, how much teaming and how much soloing is considered into the balance equation. They both have to be there some.

How would you factor a toons performance in a +4/ 8 man team exactly? Serious question. Because so much of a toons survivability at that point is reliant on team structure. And in a way, same with the performance of each attack, except for the number of targets it is able to hit (ST v. AoE.)

This isnt a thread to discuss how to change EM (or TA), theres already dozens of those. This thread is just calling it to the front of the forum page again, and I will do this until its dealt with. If youde like to share your changes, go for it. After all, when you ask for change, you ARE asking how.

The basic nature of the power was changed completely. It used to be a quick activating attack that is now a -very- slow activating attack. They changed the basic nature of the power when it went from having the 2nd fastest melee attack animation -IN THE GAME- to the 3rd slowest melee attack animation -IN THE GAME.- (going solely by the attack animation time, some animations may be <slightly> different than others but share the same activation time. Top 2 are 3.3 and 3.07 seconds.) Take out AoE/cone (mult enemy) melee attacks from the equation and it becomes number 2, behind only TF, WHICH IS IN THE SAME SET! When you go from one extreme to the other, I would have to say youve changed the basic nature of it.

I dont have numbers to back my statement up because its impossible to create them without being given the information from the devs, which they wouldnt do (if they can even gather such a random stat.) Im going off of coalie and channel chat and postings on the boards where people state theyve deleted a 50 EM toon. Though since I never tossed out an exact number for the statement, I dont know why this even matters. Two people doing it makes my statement true, so yes I DO have the numbers to back my statement up thankyouverymuch.

Hyperbole is only ineffective when it falls upon the ears of people who lack any social skill. If hyperbole was ineffective, you wouldnt have studied shakespeare throughout your schooling.

Both sets are underperforming. You dont hear someone mention either set without having the arguements come up. If the arguement is that prevalent, you need to at least look into it.

How the cottage house rule didnt apply to the ET nerf I dont know, but when you make the power animation 2.5 times longer on THE SET DEFINING POWER, You have changed that ENTIRE set. Theres no way around it. No reason behind the nerf can change that fact. You completely changed the way the set works with a nerf, and did not buff it anywhere else. In fact, you accompanied the nerf with another nerf (though much smaller in effect for the melee AT's, but still.) Now you have people deleting their level 50 EM toons, rather than play them. The playstyle is crap.

Ive been spending most of my time creating new toons and running PuG's and I couldnt tell you the last time I saw an EM toon. And hundreds of threads say Im not the only one.

TA is just lackluster. you get every debuff in the game, but in such small incraments that its rather ineffective, especially since its an all debuff set with 0 buffing abilities. It should not be getting outdebuffed by sets that have buffs. Especially with OSA like it is, poorly WAI at best.

I mean cmon, both sets arent getting played for a reason. They dont have any downfalls that arent balance related making them unliked (think dark armor and pre power customization.) TA sort of does with redraw, but I dont think thats an underlined issue like the dustball effect was. ****, EM looks steazy as hell with power customization, but if no one wants to get one passed the sign in screen, that doesnt do much for them.

If theres another powerset thats downright ignored, toss it out there. Those are just the two prominent ones I always think about.

I got kicked from a team for not SBing on my sonic/storm corr...

Dont think I really wanted part of that team anyhow.

No character is ever at the recharge cap on their own accord, so SB is never useless. It being the largest outside source of +rech available in the game, you are fooling yourself saying its not a big deal.

I agree, when I think kin I think FS first, but I definately think sb second.

WHat do you want OP, people are giving their opinions and even giving reasons for their stance and you keep ********. If you dont want to hear their answer, then dont ask the question. If you came on here to see if anyone would agree with you that sb is not needed, the last two pages show youre on your own with that thinking. If it were a solo farm toon, you dont need it. If you are going to team even once, I can almost guarrantee at least one teammate will ask for it.

When Im on my plant/kin I am very up front with how I intend to distribute sb, On my own time to people who dont whine for it. I dont keep the whole team SB'd 24/7, but its up enough and they appreciate it.

I also find sb's a good tool for getting a lazy brute/tank moving. Im not a big fan of breaks between every mob.