Psychic Guardian

If you read the bottom of the first page of my PC buying thread people have helped me with understanding SLI (and top of 2nd page iirc). They said yes CoH doesn't support SLI, but a legitimate driversource has a betaversion available that is running SLI with CoH, and will soon be available as the fullyreleased driver.

pfft, I'm not even paying my way. Luckily I'm already in NY lol. I've wanted to go to a bunch of events CoH was attending but couldn't get my family to get me there, this one's right in my state I can't pass it up .

Would PCIe provide faster internet access too? hmmm

I am planning on going to the NCSoft Meet&Greet and NYCC for the panel, am I gonna meet any players I know ?

My original Logitech MXs scrollwheel stopped working after a few years, I just replaced it on my birthday with the Logitech Performance MX. I'm happy with it, I might like it more than the old one I'm not sure lol . I also got this to go with it; coolest thing ever . Why the person who invented the mousepad made it limp fabric over a solid, movable surface to begin with I have no idea , but this one is incredible. No more folded in half laptop-lapdesk with a mousepad on it in bed/couch, just this .

My guess is they leave the invention/origin of power pop-ups in place when side-switching for people who haven't played the other side before, or are new altogether so they know where the University/Midnighter's Club is on their new side.

cool, so both cards' ports can be used. Yeah Hyper the 460 was great for the 1280xX res, but I realized my desk monitor is very old and I should get a new one if I'm getting a desktop, and the new selections are at the 1980x range so the requirements went way up.


hmm, do those WiFi options you chose require software? I wanted the internal for ease-of-use. I setup a USB one for someone once and the netgear thing was annoying as hell to work with lol, I am aiming for one that works with standard windows WiFi management.

Yeah I know it's just a bluray reader, it'd just be in case I dont feel like using the PS3 or have the PS3 somewhere else etc. I know blurays are burnable now and 50gb is attractive but I still haven't thought of trying it, and the price jump from reading to burning bluray is $40 up to like $200ish so I left it out.

Oh, and by bootdrive I meant "C: with programs installed to etc minus "my documents"", I guess that's not what it means lol.

Yeah I also like seeing the monitor color for myself in a store but they're way cheaper online. I probably would do exactly what you said and walk in a store then go online, I'm good at finding prices lol. Like ebay today, 23" new in box monitor for $30 and $25 shipping, I looked up the model# and it retails for $199.

Does this motherboard have more PCI slots? I know the difference between PCI and PCIe but there's all these separate subdividers for PCI motherboard specs and I don't know what's what.

I had found a cool thing I was just starting to look into getting, but it mounts into desktops via PCI I guess I'd have no room for it.

The thing is if you find a game breaking bug and report it without mentioning it, it is granted so rarely they most likely wouldn't even remember it existed to grant lol .

Thanks Guardian! It was awesome . And lol Kay, I know he has funny initials

hmmm, cyberpower doesn't have any SLI motherboards with USB 3.0/sata III, I really want to make use of the USB 3.0. I found this though, it works on all sata II motherboards right? For $9 added to the system that sounds perfect lol.

Oh, and I've been reading this since I looked at this configurator for the first time this summer and have no idea what it means;

Multiple Videocard Settings:
Xtreme Performance in SLI/CrossFireX Gaming Mode Supports Single Monitor [+0]
Non-SLI/Non-CrossFireX Mode Supports Multiple Monitors

SLI allows multiple monitors right? I don't see why it wouldn't, but I have left it set to Non-SLI mode for now since that's automatic(?).

I made all the changes you suggested and added the 2nd 260 card, changed to an SLI motherboard and added the USB 3.0 motherboard expansion, with all that is still comes to $17 less than before lol.

Here's the setup with the new changes . I almost forgot to lower the RAM selection. I looked at my HD use on this pc, it's at 54gb not counting "My Documents" or any of it's subfolders so I realized 64gb doesn't sound too safe. I left the monitor there for price comparison but I will probably buy it separate and get a way better deal.

Edit: Oh and I remembered I installed my ancient version of photoshop on my sister's windows7 64bit awhile ago when I wanted to use it and it runs fine. The drivers and everything else I can deal with.

Edit2: In a previous post I asked about whether or not the ports on the secondary videocard in an SLI setup could be used or not, but the post had so many questions that one got skipped over, can they?

We haven't heard whether it was on purpose or a side-effect of messing with Mace Mastery on Controllers. There was another post in Tech about it but it turned into a flamewar of someone's remark before there was any strong input so it's not even worth finding and linking lol.

oh, I have a 3.5" memorycardreader on that cyberpower list but the case doesn't have a 3.5 bay, do you think cyberpower would use an adapter(if it's possible with the case) or just say there's an error in my build? I looked at the fan controllers since some have memorcard readers, but the 3.5 reader is $10 and the 1 5" bay fancontroller/memorycard reader is $38 .

Edit: so the 955 can be easily overclocked to match the 965 performance? ewwww my photoshop won't work on 64 bit?? I guess it's time for a new question lol; why should I not flip the little toggle to 32bit and keep all my apps?(what does 64bit do besides screw everything up? haha)

I picked Windows 7 Pro for the XP compatibility thing, I've never touched a Windows 7 PC before though so I dont know how many programs are incompatible with 7 Home. Sata III really won't do anything at all? Why do they make it then lol? What does the Mhz of RAM cards mean? I actually don't know. Without the overclocking what is the difference between the 955 and 965? Is the 965 faster? From what I've heard here AMD is pretty slow compared to Intel, but they are way more expensive and harder to find 8gb ram accepting-intel-motherboards on cyberpower, where I kinda live now hahahhaa.

With just the 1 460 at the 1900 resolution I guess it'd be about where I am now in Praetoria/Redside; 15-20 fps(albeit 15-20 fps on performance/recommended with no other apps open and UM as off as it can get so it'd be an improvement). The way I maintain computers they last for ages, I've never had a desktop that was picked out/built for me, if I'm giving up the portability of a notebook I really want to get the absolute best out of the desktop. If I lower the 460 from the 1gb to the 768mb and put in a second one it will take it from OK to super?

I can't believe Steve made a newegg wishlist/cart with my specs cheaper than my saved PC on cyberpower, I literally copy/pasted item brand/names/modelnumbers from cyberpower to newegg and made a wishlist and the total was over $200 more for the parts version before I had everything added.

Being able to walk into a PC shop and pick everything out at reasonable prices and paying their flatrate fee to assemble it for me sounds nice but I don't know of any around here, and if I haven't heard of it I bet their stock wouldn't have the high-end stuff like this anyway.

Edit: Is using drivers from the 260 for SLI support normal/safe/easy to do? If it's something I think I'd mess up i'll look into the singles more lol

They moved the Suggestions and Ideas forum to the bottom of the list in the "For Fun" category, I remember some people were insulted lol. But I've seen a couple things posted get implemented since then .

One thing you can do about this other than relog is use the slashcommand /unloadgfx(I think thats it, it has 3 synonymcodes anyway), it locks up the game for a couple seconds and clears the data of things you don't need anymore (like things from another zone you were in, or -5- other zones etc lol) and it'll lower your RAM usage, I have a G15 keyboard and monitor it, sometimes unloadgfx drops my total used ram as much as 15-20%

You really built it cheaper from parts? I tested both newegg and tigerdirect last month putting a wishlist together of every single same-model parts I used from cyberpower and it was $200+ higher with the parts before I was even finished adding everything. As far as I know we don't have much to choose from for computer stores out here, when someone has a problem with a computer they make a 20min trip to Best Buy for the Geek Squad . And I'm not really comfortable assembling a computer by myself, in a work setting where I got some experience with it was one thing, but I wouldn't risk it on parts I spent over $1,000 for for myself. My thinking is it may be $200-300(?) cheaper as parts, but if I fry the motherboard or break something assembling it the whole pile of parts isn't worth anything at all lol.

*Puts all my other Guardian friends under mind control so I stop losing them. Fighting my computer lately I haven't been in everyday like I used to, I am like "ahh all these people in Guardian and Level 50 are strangers" *hides* now lol

I hope everything works out and you are back soon Pyber. Yeah, the winter event won't be the same without the ski slopes "#1 Little Red Hamster"(think that was yours) everytime I check it. I remember last year I developed the skill to get both golds, 5 minutes after maintenance I logged in and was #1 on the ground slope, less than 10 minutes later I was still messing around I see you whoosh down and "poof" new #1 lol

I had something like this happen once where the high resolution I wanted and knew my hardware was capable of wasn't available. If you are familiar with them go into your ATI CCC or Nvidia controlpanel and look at your connected monitor properties. For some stupid reason the computer will read the max resolution the monitor can tolerate through the cable it's connected with, but occasionally is given a number too small. You can tell it to ignore the tag data and slide the screen resolution bar as high as you want .

Hopefully the update just reset/changed/broke that property and this will fix it.

The CPU speed I wasn't thinking about for CoH, just for a fast PC in general that's why I'm aiming so high. How mainstream is SLI usage? Does that get used automatically when your system recognizes you have it setup or do apps have to "look for it"? 1 Highend videocard I'm ok with, but even 2 mediocre ones is alot more expensive than 1 single and CoH is the only game I play. I'm really interested in knowing if Crossfire is supported by CoH now, 2 5770s is cheaper than 2 460s, and AMD SLI motherboards are all sata II. I would rather get the 1 videocard setup to keep the sata III and USB 3.0, even with the 2TB internal HD this will come with I still expect to be moving around/backing up to externals (like always), and it is never something I look forward to for transfer times. (My current external datadrive is starting to scare me and i've been backing up to an old one, I set it to copy a huge folder right before bed so I don't have to sit with a computer unable to do anything else it bothers me that much). I know for full 3.0 speed I'd need to start using 3.0 supported externals, but 3.0 supposedly upscales what it can from a 2.0 cable/hd and I've seen tons of reviews saying that the upscale is better than you'd expect.

As a personal preference of the scale of things I might not even like the display of the max res on the new monitor; if the 460 can handle 1280x1024 maxed easy but struggles with the 1920x1200 how high would you guess it can go before you have to adjust things? Normally I wouldn't ask such a specific question but you actually own one lol.

Would upgrading to the GTX 465 or 470 single be worthwhile? The 480 is kinda higher than I'd like to go, but the 470 1.2gb pre-superclocked version is $70 less than 2 460 768mbs and doesn't require the SLI motherboards.

(Between the SSD (and 2TB datadrive), Monitor, 8gb ram and bluray player the GTX 480 would raise the total to over $1800, I'm trying to get it to stay around $1,500ish if I could.)

If everyone's wondering how their advice has helped here is my design so far .

Great Replies ! HDMI=DVI quality I didn't know. I also found "mini HDMI", those are just HDMI quality that need an adapter right? How about DisplayPort/Mini DisplayPorts, are they also HDMI/DVI quality? Flipping through graphics cards I found one with 6 mini DisplayPorts on it and nothing else and was curious .

Nice call on the X6 thing, I knocked $90 off the PC total going to the X4 965 Black Edition which I didn't know was actually faster. In terms of just opening CoH, firefox, photoshop or anything how fast will that be? Like "OMG this thing is insane" or just "oh, thats faster than what I had before" (What I had before being an Intel Centrino Core 2 Duo for reference)?

My current 19" HDTV maxes at 1600x1200(I just checked). But my old LCD Monitor from like 2004 is only meant for 1024x768, so I decided this looked good on cyberpower for $200; '22" Widescreen 1920x1080 ViewSonic VG2227WM'. Can the 460 handle those resolutions in CoH at max too or will some things need to be dropped a little?

This thread has been awesome, I actually am confident in things I have selected now lol. Well now I'm off to set my res to that 1600x1200, raise the DPI so I can actually read stuff on the screen and load CoH and laugh at how pathetic my current computer is lmao. (At 1280x1024 in windowed mode I can't turn on occlusion or I crash, and environmental reflections takes me to 2fps and I can't move the mouse to get it off again easily. I play on Minimum regular settings usually for 20ish fps, but if I close EVERYTHING else on the PC I can manage like 13-15 in Recommended I recently found out)

(If my system sounds weird it's because it is lol. My laptop's screen died so I've been using monitors to continue using it. There's the old monitor on my desk next to the laptop, and then a VGA/3.5sound cables running under the bed to the VESA mounted HDTV with a wireless keyboard and mouse, so there's essentially 2 access "terminals" to the 1 computer. Since the laptop only has 1 VGA and no HDMI I have to manually switch the plugged in monitor cable when I want to go to the other screen. I just realized these desktop cards can have both at once, woot .)