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Unless I missed something, the draft is at 9PM Eastern. Emp and I were talking about a spreadsheet of sorts on our GP site. I haven't heard of the PvPEC (or anyone else) distributing one, so I assumed that was up to each team to figure out.

Yeah...assuming everyone has signed up, and if we end up having 5 registered D8 teams within those sign-ups with the full 12 spots each, that still leaves over 100 draft picks (so 20 or so draftees per team). It would be nice if we had a few more teams...it's why I'm a little worried over the remaining teams not posting rosters (unless I just missed them).

Have the other 2 teams I've seen around signed up yet? I know Bitter's team was on just last night, so I figured they were set.

Once you understand your role, I think most people fall into a few categories:

farmable: a liability to the team, prevents teammates from appearing decent at PvP
not so good: not necessarily farmable, but doesn't contribute much, so still hurts the team
good: not farmable, contributes what is expected within his/her role...but maybe not the fastest at it
great: not farmable and clearly makes a difference in matches (whether it's recognizing ideal targets, locking faster than anyone else, knowing when to phase, pulling off a crucial last second heal, etc.) - generally has faster reaction times than the vast majority of PvP'rs

It's difficult to judge players, individually, unless they are surrounded by, at the very least, a decent team...since bad teammates can prevent good ones from excelling. Even the best PvP'rs can get semi-wrecked if they have bad teammates. On the other side of things, it can be difficult to pick out the best at certain roles from a team of great PvP'rs.

Somehow I missed what all was said after my post. Funny stuff. lol @ IB's Kanye impersonation and at Kanye Slax.

Are you looking to get into competitive or casual team arena?

If you're looking for someone to organize an instructional-type kickball event, then I'd say we have a few people around here that would be good at that kind of thing. Anyone participating, though, would need to be patient and listen to the logic behind effective builds and possible strategies in order to understand what goes into being competitive in the team arena setting.

If you're looking for an experienced PvP'r to spend time doing consistent, non-competitive KB's, however, it goes against the nature of most PvP'rs, and most would likely consider that sort of thing to be non-productive (since competitive PvP'rs are generally focused on getting more competitive PvP'rs involved). Casual PvP can certainly be fun; dUmb does L4 PvP stuff from time to time and it's a hoot...but I personally think you're going to have a hard time getting people to do consistent, casual team arena PvP.

As for hearing "I don't know who these people are" so much during kickballs...that's because captains are trying to pick the best line-up out of the pick pool and are looking to get build/experience info from people on Vent or in-game chat. I captained the other night and initially picked a couple of people that I knew because I was aware of what they had and needed it...but since I'm still learning about a number of PvP'rs on Freedom, I had to rely on those picks to help me make a few of my remaining picks.

At that point I said "I don't know who the rest of these people are" because I was essentially asking everyone on Vent to clue me in so I could make informed picks. If I'm on an emp (which is always) and, for example, need to know what kind of corruptors are left in the pool, asking those on Vent is more informative than asking for build info in the terminal set-up or arena chat, etc.

That beind said, I'm sure teams ended up consisting primarily of "cool kids" because that's the nature of kickball, assuming you're trying to pick the best team you see. When we ran kickball on Infinity, though, we'd take turns sitting out in order for late-comers (both vets and new PvP'rs) to participate. That's pretty easy to do if you have just a handful more than 16. If you have more than that, and you end up not getting picked, I'd suggest starting up a 2nd KB match with the "fat kids." I can see that it might be frustrating to break into the "cool kid club" or whatever, but I'd imagine you'd get a chance if you kept showing up for KB and proving yourself in matches, show up with a good PvP build, and doing stuff like posting on the boards here about trying to better yourself/trying to get into PvP more, etc.

Sorry I went all psypunk there...what max said there is good advice.

The last few rounds with the scrappers were pretty funny. Vince about got me killed out of laughter in that sudden death round. Overall, I think it was a good KB night with a lot of close matches mixed in there-good to be getting back up to speed. ahhhhh yeah

The only problem with slotting people in for D6 is that it is a drafted team, so there's no guarantee that we get anyone we want. 2 of our set roster players can play in a given match, but the rest are all draft picks (for the D6).

Are you asking if there are better sets out now? I know there was a decent amount of sets/IOs that I had to swap out for my emp respec. You should look at a good mids build to figure out what you'd like to do.

Yeah, you could've made a very strong argument for Infinity at one time. We used to have leagues, a ladder (for team arena and base raids even), frequent kickball, fairly active zones, and (I'd be willing to guess) more tournaments/events than any other server. I'd say that Freedom probably had us beat in zone activity most of the time because of server population, but I personally think we had them beat on the organized stuff (no offense to the other servers).

Our PvP ladder roster thread is still marked to save if you go look at the Infinity server stuff on these boards. Even with the ongoing PvP issues before i13, we still had 80+ people over like 8 teams-I think-participating. Personally, I poured a lot of time and effort into making things happen there. The devs drowned it away by flooding the whole system with the diarrhea they called i13 and its PvP changes. So, like most PvP'rs across all servers, most of us quit (I did for like a year); everything that we had built up there died. When a few people would come back, their only hope of finding PvP would be on Freedom, so it's really the only serious option now...which is why I'm there too now.

Only one? Hmmm, let me think about it a while.

lol Actually, I know several long-time Infinity vets that are back. People just keep on crawling out from the woodwork. I don't know who all is trying to stay "hidden" though, but I'm sure more than a few of you have ran into a couple of them.

dUmb GP site is now sponsored again, so make as many threads and posts as you want.

Oh, I know you're right. But I'd be willing to pretend it's not a reversion to i12-type PvP if they did it and claimed it as a brand-new overhaul.

omg That was pretty impressive...and on such short notice. I'm sure Slax will appreciate it too.

Wow, SC lives. I just reactivated the other day. When I made that post, I assumed that only a handful of people would have a clue about anything I said; it's good to see that you're still around. I've been able to catch up with a few true vets over the last few days. <3's!!!

If that was you on vent late last night, I regret to inform you that I wasn't turned on.

Emp is dead-on with the house of cards statement. I don't think the devs realized that admitting things like the anti-team code being broken essentially meant that the foundation of their whole idea for a new PvP system was broken as well. Maybe they understood it without saying so publicly, but they were either unwilling or unable (due to time constraints) to do anything about it other than the tweaks here and there you saw over the last year.

Those just equal band-aids imo; the foundation is still flawed, but there's sadly no reason that I can see to have hope of a "back to the drawing board" type of change that PvP requires. That's why so many of us were so pissed when they announced i13. Most PvP'rs could easily point out the flaws in the devs' proposed system right away, so it was completely unnecessary for everyone to go through all of this crap. The best brainstorming team was already quite available (and had actually done most of the job for them on the boards here for everyone to see).

I'm angry again.