PrincessDarkstar

Rough calculations show that Ageless doesn't make me break even during the last 60s of its life, but the question is does the extra recovery for the first 60s help me get back up to 100%, so therefore breaking even over the whole 120 seconds.

This will go into my spreadsheets in the morning.

I have now updated the first post, because people have made me realise that Wolf Spider Armor is an easily replacable power, and if swapped with Combat Training: Defensive it might make the build considerable easier.

Competition post is here

Hi all,

I have been having a discussion about Crab Spiders and have set myself some build goals, but I can't reach them all for the life of me.

That may be because it is impossible, but that isn't stopping me trying, and hopefully won't stop some of you.

The details are below, but I will give whoever manages to reach the goals either a full Hecatomb set, full Apocalypse set, full Armageddon set, or 500 million inf (Whichever they prefer) as a way of saying thank you

I will keep the competition open until Sat 7th April.


Must have:

• Perma-Hasten
• Perma-Serum
• All 3 pets perma
• 45% defence to all positions (Can include Barrier*)
• Both pet resist uniques and both pet defence uniques
• General good slotting for everything aside from Shatter Armor, which is just a filler power so can be swapped if necessary, or used as a mule
• 95% chance to hit +3's with all powers including Web Envelope (Which will accept minimal slotting as it is just for the -fly)
• Achilles' Heel procs in Single Shot, Burst and Heavy Burst
• Catalysed ATIO proc in Heavy Burst (The other parts of the set can be elsewhere but with also needing an Achilles' Heel proc it is most likely best to use 5 parts here)
• Muscalature Alpha (This is what makes the build really hard)
• Gapless single target attack chain of Bayonet>Single Shot>Burst>Single Shot
• 'Decent' endurance, so no neglecting stamina
• Mag 4 KB protection

Nice to have:

• 3% resist unique
• Endurance sustainable single target attack chain*
• Soulbound Allegiance proc in Summon Spiderlings
• Mag 12 KB protection

There are no restrictions on what IO's can be used, so go crazy, but I am not willing to use enhancement boosters on purples, PvP IO's or special IO's like LoTG's, and I would probably cap their use to something like 30-40 across the whole build.

I don't want temp powers or inspirations counted either

The build template is below, though you can move the power order if that helps. You can also swap Wolf Spider Armor for any power of your choice, with Combat Training: Defensive and Stealth being the likely candidates.

Edit: I am also willing to lose Omega Maneuver if necessary and still award the prize(s), but any build that keeps all the powers (Wolf Spider Armor aside) will win over any that misses Omega Maneuver.

Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.954
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Second Gunman: Level 50 Natural Arachnos Soldier
Primary Power Set: Crab Spider Soldier
Secondary Power Set: Crab Spider Training
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Single Shot -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Crab Spider Armor Upgrade -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Burst -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Combat Jumping -- Empty(A)
Level 6: Wolf Spider Armor -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Heavy Burst -- Empty(A)
Level 10: Tactical Training: Maneuvers -- Empty(A)
Level 12: Venom Grenade -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Bayonet -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Maneuvers -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Frag Grenade -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Tactical Training: Assault -- Empty(A)
Level 22: Tactical Training: Leadership -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Mental Training -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Fortification -- Empty(A)
Level 28: Serum -- Empty(A)
Level 30: Hasten -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Omega Maneuver -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Summon Spiderlings -- Empty(A)
Level 38: Call Reinforcements -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Web Envelope -- Empty(A)
Level 44: Shatter Armor -- Empty(A)
Level 47: Summon Blaster -- Empty(A)
Level 49: Assault -- Empty(A)
Level 0: Born In Battle
Level 0: High Pain Threshold
Level 0: Invader
Level 0: Marshal
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
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Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Conditioning
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Empty(A)
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After giving this some serious though I decided that I can probably do without i-capped defences, but set myself some very tough build goals which I haven't managed to reach yet.

Blueruckus' build was a great inspiration, and I decided that picking up the patron pet looked like a good idea, but I also convinced myself into Bayonet (Which meant that from his build I had to drop Vengeance). That also meant that I couldn't be a Hovercrab , which isn't a bad thing gameplay wise but made the build harder because I needed melee defence too.

I have made a list of build goals, and a build template which I am taking to the general build thread as a competition. Sadly I am not sure my goals are possible, but we will see...

I will link that post soon and hopefully some of you might have a look, there is a prize on offer

You have given me a lot to think about so thank you for all your advice

I am going to spend the rest of the night trying to make a build which reaches a set of targets, but am failing badly so far. If I don't make it I might open a build competition because it is doing my head in lol.

Though I suspect my targets might be a tad unrealistic.

It is the incarnate rewards that complicate it for me, having to run different things for different rewards that may not even be what you want and having to make stuff to use to make more stuff! It is just one layer too many for me, and that isn't mentioning the grind.

Last questions*: Do you think the Soulbound proc is best off in the Spiderlings over the Disruptors? Does their faster rate of attack make up for them being weaker?

Is the Blaster the same level as you?

*Likely a lie!

I have looked at your build again Blueruckus, trying to plan ahead for what I would do if I settled on less defence (I would still aim for 45% to all though, thats like a religion to me) and realised you skipped Web Grenade.

I have noticed that a lot of mobs these days tend to fly and it is very annoying when you can't get to them (From my scrapper experiences it is mainly the PPD with damn -fly grenades then hovering up so you can't kill em!!!! And the new Knife birds too). Does simply having range stop them being so annoying, or do you miss the -fly? My new consideration is dropping it for Bayonet, but I am not sure because the whole idea of Hover was to keep things out of melee distance.

You took Supression over Frag Grenade, which is good because the cones compliment each other and you avoid the radial KB, but bad because Frag Grenade is faster. Is there redraw after using Supression? Because it is tempting to skip Frag Grenade, but factoring in redraw the animation time for Supression looks like double that of Frag Grenade and personally I am not sure about the tradeoff.

Having said that, using the VG > Heavy Burst > Something > Heavy Burst > Repeat chain would have gaps with Frag Grenade, but not with Supression so the cast time wouldn't be such an issue. Hmm.

The more I look at your build the more attractive it is becoming to stop at 45% defence.

I could even drop Single Shot from my attack chain and use Bayonet and Shatter Armor along with Burst, though I would have to work out the pro's and con's of dropping the 2nd Achilles' Heel proc. Shatter Armor would also definitely cause redraw, but Burst > Bayonet > Single Shot > repeat would put out some hefty damage! Approx 215 dps before -res procs, pets and interface!

I hate having to make decisions!